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> The assault on Wiki-Porn: A hint of motive?
anthony
post Sat 8th May 2010, 2:58pm
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We were about to be smeared in all media as hosting hardcore pornography
and doing nothing about it. Now, the correct storyline is that we are
cleaning up. I'm proud to have made sure that storyline broke the way
it did, and I'm sorry I had to step on some toes to make it happen.


http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/195376

Perhaps that explains his choice of images. Wasn't Sanger collecting a list of images to hand out to reporters? I'll bet Wales got a copy of that list (from a reporter perhaps), and I'll further bet that the St. Therese image was on that list.
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John Limey
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sat 8th May 2010, 10:44pm) *

Now do you faux-geniuses see what kind of person Jimmy Wales really is??[/b]


Urgh. There's too much happening in the wikiworld for me to stay off of WR.

In any case, the fall of Jimmy Wales would be a very bad thing for Wikipedia. A semi-competent to incompetent god-king is better than complete anarchy. At least there are ways to pressure Wales via donors/the media/public pressure. Take away Wales and there's no way to apply pressure to Wikipedia.
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QUOTE(John Limey @ Sat 8th May 2010, 6:10pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sat 8th May 2010, 10:44pm) *

Now do you faux-geniuses see what kind of person Jimmy Wales really is??[/b]


Urgh. There's too much happening in the wikiworld for me to stay off of WR.

In any case, the fall of Jimmy Wales would be a very bad thing for Wikipedia. A semi-competent to incompetent god-king is better than complete anarchy. At least there are ways to pressure Wales via donors/the media/public pressure. Take away Wales and there's no way to apply pressure to Wikipedia.

Je suis d'accord, but honestly, he's incompetent. He deserves kudos for trying, but I think he may have gone past the point of no return here, and I don't think he has the diplomatic abilities to convince the volunteer army to follow his agenda.

It really is a shame: he's a great spokesperson and advocate, but I don't think he's realized yet the nature of the thing he's advocating and speaking for.

Or, if Kelly will allow me to riff on her trademarked phrase: I think the day has been hastened.
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post Sat 8th May 2010, 11:21pm
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sat 8th May 2010, 5:25pm) *
Or, if Kelly will allow me to riff on her trademarked phrase: I think the day has been hastened.
I remain unconvinced of that. The death of King Jimmy will certainly change things in WIkiland, but improve them? Hard to say. Much depends on who moves into the power vacuum his decoronation will create, assuming that it, in fact, happens. Also, do not for a moment assume that even if he is decoronated on Commons, or even on every project except the English Wikipedia, that he'll give up his Founder privileges on the English Wikipedia without a separate fight.
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anthony   The assault on Wiki-Porn: A hint of motive?   Sat 8th May 2010, 2:58pm
tarantino   Perhaps that explains his choice of images. Tha...   Sat 8th May 2010, 4:25pm
Kelly Martin   That's a good theory. It maybe time to compile...   Sat 8th May 2010, 5:07pm
TungstenCarbide   That's a good theory. It maybe time to compil...   Sat 8th May 2010, 7:04pm
anthony   That's a good theory. It maybe time to compil...   Sat 8th May 2010, 8:45pm
tarantino   What about when they're still there (and mor...   Sat 8th May 2010, 9:14pm
EricBarbour   To the contrary, he has and will block pe...   Sat 8th May 2010, 9:44pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Mike.lifeguard' date='Sat 8th May 20...   Sat 8th May 2010, 10:03pm
carbuncle   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wi...   Sat 8th May 2010, 10:19pm
Tarc   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=W...   Mon 10th May 2010, 2:53pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Wasn't Sanger collecting a list of images to h...   Sun 9th May 2010, 1:47am
EricBarbour   It is interesting to note Mike Godwin's and Jz...   Sun 9th May 2010, 2:47am
GlassBeadGame   Wales: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/w...   Sat 8th May 2010, 4:28pm
TungstenCarbide   Wales:http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/f...   Sat 8th May 2010, 4:50pm
Jon Awbrey   Although Jimbo isn't known for his thoughtful...   Sat 8th May 2010, 5:06pm
anthony   [quote name='anthony' post='235402' date='Sat 8th...   Sun 9th May 2010, 4:36pm
Peter Damian   How can you be sorry for something that was neces...   Sun 9th May 2010, 4:41pm
anthony   How can you be sorry for something that was nece...   Sun 9th May 2010, 4:48pm
Peter Damian   [quote name='Peter Damian' post='235665' date='Su...   Sun 9th May 2010, 4:49pm
TungstenCarbide   [quote name='anthony' post='235402' date='Sat 8t...   Mon 10th May 2010, 1:15am
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='anthony' post='235664' date='Sun 9th...   Mon 10th May 2010, 1:24am
ulsterman   That might be exculpatory for him but it is a ver...   Mon 10th May 2010, 11:40am
Larry Sanger   [quote name='TungstenCarbide' post='235764' date=...   Mon 10th May 2010, 8:47pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Hitherto, it's looked like there was somebody ...   Tue 11th May 2010, 2:39am
Moulton   And consider that now Jimmy Wales owns the results...   Tue 11th May 2010, 9:34am
Jon Awbrey   And consider that now Jimmy Wales owns the resul...   Tue 11th May 2010, 1:48pm
Moulton   What part of [font=arial black][size=4]Ignore All...   Tue 11th May 2010, 4:01pm
Abd   What part of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index....   Tue 11th May 2010, 4:32pm
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='236071' date='Tue...   Tue 11th May 2010, 5:00pm
Moulton   During his deletion spree on May 7th, Jimbo clicke...   Thu 13th May 2010, 9:22am
GlassBeadGame   During his deletion spree on May 7th, Jimbo click...   Thu 13th May 2010, 1:01pm
Milton Roe   So we now have the half-life of Jimbo's delet...   Thu 13th May 2010, 6:26pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   It's kind of pleasant, in sort of satisfying-j...   Thu 13th May 2010, 11:27pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='236408' date='Thu ...   Sun 16th May 2010, 6:54pm
Moulton   That's not a sustainable practice. Proposed ...   Mon 10th May 2010, 7:26am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   I wanted us to take an approach that involved firs...   Mon 10th May 2010, 1:26pm
Moulton   ...go down in the anals of the Wikipedia... For a ...   Mon 10th May 2010, 1:33pm
Kelly Martin   In any case, the fall of Jimmy Wales would be a ve...   Sat 8th May 2010, 10:21pm
Cedric   [quote name='John Limey' post='235466' date='Sat ...   Sat 8th May 2010, 11:08pm
TungstenCarbide   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='235474' date='Sat 8...   Sun 9th May 2010, 12:57am
Kelly Martin   I don't think Jimbo has much power these days,...   Sun 9th May 2010, 1:08am
Moulton   I don't think Jimbo has much power these days,...   Sun 9th May 2010, 1:10am
Milton Roe   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='235474' date='Sat ...   Sun 9th May 2010, 1:10am
Kevin   Now do you faux-geniuses see what kind of person...   Sat 8th May 2010, 10:58pm
EricBarbour   Ooohhh! Even "Mister Deadman" admits...   Sat 8th May 2010, 10:13pm
GlassBeadGame   What you are seeing in Mr. Wales clamp down on por...   Sat 8th May 2010, 10:51pm
John Limey   What you are seeing in Mr. Wales clamp down on po...   Sat 8th May 2010, 11:10pm
Moulton   It's Armageddon, Ragnarok, and Calgary, all ro...   Sun 9th May 2010, 1:58am
everyking   It seems like a no-brainer--these images are super...   Sun 9th May 2010, 1:59am
GlassBeadGame   It seems like a no-brainer--these images are supe...   Sun 9th May 2010, 2:05am
everyking   It seems like a no-brainer--these images are sup...   Sun 9th May 2010, 4:21am
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='235542' date='S...   Sun 9th May 2010, 8:24am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Of course, if Jimmy goes down, so does Mike Godwin...   Sun 9th May 2010, 2:30am
dogbiscuit   It strikes me that Jimbo has been rather foolish i...   Mon 10th May 2010, 1:47pm
Jon Awbrey   It strikes me that Jimbo has been rather foolish ...   Mon 10th May 2010, 1:52pm
Moulton   Smoke and Mirrors Ayup. Disingenuous bluster and...   Mon 10th May 2010, 1:57pm
Emperor   My read on the spin: The damage is done. There h...   Mon 10th May 2010, 4:04pm
Jon Awbrey   My read on the spin: The damage is done. There ...   Mon 10th May 2010, 4:22pm
Tarc   My read on the spin: The damage is done. There ...   Mon 10th May 2010, 5:57pm
thekohser   Yea, because kids can't look at porn anywhere...   Mon 10th May 2010, 6:38pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='235899' date='Mon 10th M...   Mon 10th May 2010, 7:59pm
Jon Awbrey   I'm all for cleaning up the Commons of excess...   Mon 10th May 2010, 8:39pm
Ottava   Do you really think that kids in schools actively...   Tue 11th May 2010, 2:00pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='235910' date='Mon 10th M...   Tue 11th May 2010, 2:16pm
EricBarbour   :tearinghairout:   Mon 10th May 2010, 9:50pm
EricBarbour   :tearinghairout: Thank you for moving the stupi...   Mon 10th May 2010, 10:56pm
gomi   [Modnote: All the content-free joke posts have bee...   Mon 10th May 2010, 9:56pm
The Adversary   I had no idea as to how much porn there was on com...   Tue 11th May 2010, 3:27am
Tarc   And looking at [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...   Tue 11th May 2010, 1:26pm
CharlotteWebb   And looking at [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...   Tue 11th May 2010, 10:49pm
The Adversary   And looking at [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...   Thu 13th May 2010, 1:10am
Moulton   Yah, it corresponds to the classic battle between ...   Tue 11th May 2010, 5:02pm
thekohser   I, too, am a big fan of Marillion -- I even caught...   Wed 12th May 2010, 3:20pm
SB_Johnny   I, too, am a big fan of Marillion -- I even caugh...   Wed 12th May 2010, 3:47pm
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)   I, too, am a big fan of Marillion -- I even caugh...   Sun 16th May 2010, 2:13am
Moulton   I would frankly be astonished if Jimbo ever has an...   Thu 13th May 2010, 6:41pm
Emperor   I'll bet the person most pissed off by all thi...   Thu 13th May 2010, 7:04pm
tarantino   Many of the content filtering providers accept sub...   Thu 13th May 2010, 11:18pm
tarantino   At this moment, some of [url=http://domain.opend...   Fri 14th May 2010, 3:57am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   For example at OpenDNS, people submit tags for dom...   Thu 20th May 2010, 10:10am
thekohser   What gets me with these people, and it is typical...   Thu 20th May 2010, 11:26am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   commons.wikimedia.org is up for a vote. http://do...   Fri 14th May 2010, 11:54am
carbuncle   commons.wikimedia.org is up for a vote. http://d...   Sun 16th May 2010, 2:33am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Note that users of the "domain tagging" ...   Sun 16th May 2010, 12:40pm
EricBarbour   As a blog added by tawker and as a forum by nathan...   Sun 16th May 2010, 2:34am
the fieryangel   [quote name='Cock-up-over-conspira...   Sun 16th May 2010, 8:36am
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the fieryangel   The Bikini Babes are in the famous pix of Cap...   Sun 16th May 2010, 12:57pm
Moulton   [quote name='Moulton' post='236714' date='Sun 16th...   Sun 16th May 2010, 2:11pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Do you really think that kids in schools actively ...   Sun 16th May 2010, 2:29pm


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