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[RDH(Ghost In The Machine)]

(you said it we stink on ice...but not as much as petty tyrants)

King James self-granted founder status is under a serious attack.

This RFC was started back in March over his Wikiversity purge, but was off to a slow and predictable start. As of Cinco de Mayo the proposal to remove his powers had only 23 supports v. 33 opposes.


But over the last 2 days support has soared to a whopping 240 v 77. The Deatheaters are actually getting swamped for a change.

Could this be the start of a long awaited revolution?
I try not to get my hopes up too high...they have been crushed far too many times before.
However, this is unprecedented! Not even during the height of Essjay or Marsden did as many so ardently not only defy King James but call for his removal.

[Moulton]

This RFC was started back in March over his Wikiversity purge, but was off to a slow and predictable start. As of Cinco de Mayo the proposal to remove his powers had only 23 supports v. 33 opposes.

25 to 36. Note that Adambro and R.T.G had stricken my vote and the vote of Emesee...

13. "The time has come," the Walrus said, "to speak of many things: abuse and snits and searing whacks, and clipping Jimbo's wings." —Moulton 20:00, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

14. as per others. although, ultimately, i could hardly care less at this point.. but in principle of possibly making some hopefully positive change in the world, and promoting my websites, i'll add my little vote here. EME44

[Peter Damian]

But over the last 2 days support has soared to a whopping 240 v 77. The Deatheaters are actually getting swamped for a change.

Could this be the start of a long awaited revolution?

You have to be careful of revolutions. In 1979 I thought the end of the Shah of Iran was a Good Thing. But you have to look carefully at what replaces it.

The shit! I'm totally disgusted with Jimbo's recent actions, it's plain vandalism and sysop flag abuse. They need to make Wikipedia children-friendly, huh? What the hell of a reason is that? Wikipedia is NO KIDDIE STUFF and had never been. We create damn encyclopedia here that naturally contains information about sex. We're not going to write some sanitized and censored stuff you can safely show to your 2-yr-old toddler. That totally won't do. Maybe Commons need to get some things cleaned up, but this must be done as a regular procedure — first discuss, then delete. No one can act as a dictator here in an international community. Ari Linn 02:52, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

My emphasis - this is where the 'revolution' is coming from.

This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Sun 9th May 2010, 8:58am

[CharlotteWebb]

My emphasis - this is where the 'revolution' is coming from.

But it won't be televised—not in the states at least.

[SB_Johnny]

Classic!

There is indeed nothing to fix. Jim Wales is Wikipedia, a first among equals if you will. Although he is still wrong in some of his mobocracy notions. ṬK-CP/Talk 21:45, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

[Ottava]

Little tyrants trying to replace the one who is subject to criticism.

Disgusting. By the way, many of those votes have serious problems if you look at the global contribs. The Foundation needs to crack down hard on this anarchist bs if it wants Wikimedia to last the year.

[trenton]

Jimbeau pretends to remove special powers from the founder group (while keeping the power to grant himself all the power he wants).

[Ottava]

Trenton, you do realize that right now there are at least 4 people trying to take over Jimbo's spot and they have a far nastier disposition and are not subject to criticism by the media or outsiders. We do not want such things to happen.

[Kelly Martin]

Jimbeau pretends to remove special powers from the founder group (while keeping the power to grant himself all the power he wants).

Jimbo's not smart enough to have come up with that idea on his own; someone is coaching him. My guess is David Gerard, that's exactly the sort of stunt he'd pull in this situation.

[Cedric]

Trenton, you do realize that right now there are at least 4 people trying to take over Jimbo's spot and they have a far nastier disposition and are not subject to criticism by the media or outsiders. We do not want such things to happen.

Says you.

"Hasten The Day!™" says me.

[Kelly Martin]

Trenton, you do realize that right now there are at least 4 people trying to take over Jimbo's spot and they have a far nastier disposition and are not subject to criticism by the media or outsiders. We do not want such things to happen.

Sounds ideal! Bring 'em on!

[Ottava]

Well, for people who actually want to use a very prominent system for their work instead of having to turn to alternatives that are almost completely ignored, it isn't a good thing.

[Kelly Martin]

Well, for people who actually want to use a very prominent system for their work instead of having to turn to alternatives that are almost completely ignored, it isn't a good thing.

That's not what Wikipedia is for. If you want a vanity press service, try a vanity press.

[A User]

Jimbeau pretends to remove special powers from the founder group (while keeping the power to grant himself all the power he wants).

Jimbo's not smart enough to have come up with that idea on his own; someone is coaching him. My guess is David Gerard, that's exactly the sort of stunt he'd pull in this situation.

You're probably right. Whoever takes over from Jimbo though will essentially be handed a poison chalice. The issue over the handling of the commons images has divided the community.

[Abd]

King James self-granted founder status is under a serious attack.

This RFC was started back in March over his Wikiversity purge, but was off to a slow and predictable start. As of Cinco de Mayo the proposal to remove his powers had only 23 supports v. 33 opposes.


But over the last 2 days support has soared to a whopping 240 v 77. The Deatheaters are actually getting swamped for a change.

Could this be the start of a long awaited revolution?
I try not to get my hopes up too high...they have been crushed far too many times before.
However, this is unprecedented! Not even during the height of Essjay or Marsden did as many so ardently not only defy King James but call for his removal.

They came for Moulton, and we watched. They came for Kohs, and we watched. They blocked and banned and demolished the consensus process necessary for NPOV, and we watched.

But then they came for our porn.

[trenton]

I think 'ol Jimbeau severely overestimated his power and status among non-English projects here. If he were merely meddling in some English projects, I think he'd have made it through (I'd guess support would run around 50%, maybe a bit less). These editors are basically weaned on tales of how Jimbeau single-handedly started Wikipedia, and how he wrote the first million articles and how he so selflessly gave up control to the WMF and graciously let them pay the bills.

Jimbo's not smart enough to have come up with that idea on his own; someone is coaching him. My guess is David Gerard, that's exactly the sort of stunt he'd pull in this situation.

Even Gerard hasn't been (publicly) supporting him. The number of jimbophants seem to be on the decline (or rats deserting a sinking ship).

[anthony]

Jimbeau pretends to remove special powers from the founder group (while keeping the power to grant himself all the power he wants).

Jimbo's not smart enough to have come up with that idea on his own; someone is coaching him. My guess is David Gerard, that's exactly the sort of stunt he'd pull in this situation.

Can you (or someone) translate what that change means? Is "the power to grant himself all the power he wants" something hard coded, or is there a specific permission for it?

[A User]

Well, for people who actually want to use a very prominent system for their work instead of having to turn to alternatives that are almost completely ignored, it isn't a good thing.

"their work"? No-one owns articles on wikipedia though. Given the amount of vandalism and reverts going on, I wouldn't want my work up there.

[GlassBeadGame]

But then they came for our porn.

You're on a roll today, Abd.

[trenton]

I'm no expert, but I believe "globalgrouppermissions", which he specifically added, gives him the ability to give himself any rights he wants.