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dogbiscuit
post Sun 6th June 2010, 3:03pm
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It occurred to me that a recent interest of mine had got me using a wiki, and that the experience was satisfying and the results of it were useful.

I do a lot of walking and cycling and so have an interest in maps. Having got a GPS navigation device, I was interested in getting maps (though maps on the smaller devices aren't very usable for actual navigation) and came across www.OpenStreetMap.org which is a great big open source map of the world based on a Wiki approach, albeit with specialised mapping software.

To my surprise, it is accurate and pretty complete for the areas I am interested in, though missing just enough that it has suckered me in to contributing. Of course, in the UK we have some of the best maps in the world with the publicly funded Ordnance Survey, so it is interesting to have something where I can measure the results of a public work against a professional source - even more so because the OS released some of their mapping into the public domain so people have been able to link the two together.

Thoughts are that this is a Wiki with a pretty clear set of goals, the only conflict seems to be cyclists vs walkers vs motorists where there is still a little bit of clarity required. The other noticeable thing is that the administration of the project is virtually invisible. I've been poking around for a couple of months and simply have not seen anything of what might appear to be management - the Wiki is just magically there and it works. The mailing lists are the model of civility (in the real sense of the word!). People and companies are producing tests and checks to validate the quality of the mapping, and even over a couple of months you can see the end product getting more refined.

Has anyone else any involvements in wikis that really work and are producing measurable quality output? What are their defining characteristics?
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Kelly Martin
post Sun 6th June 2010, 8:12pm
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A wiki can work when it is used as a tool for collaboration by people who already share a common purpose and common philosophy, and when there is already a strong sense of community amongst the collaborators, and they already have experience in resolving disputes amicably, or at least efficently, among themselves. However, if these things are not already in place, adding a wiki will not make them appear, and in fact the wiki will actually make their absence more strongly felt.
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post Mon 7th June 2010, 12:51am
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Sun 6th June 2010, 2:12pm) *

A wiki can work when it is used as a tool for collaboration by people who already share a common purpose and common philosophy, and when there is already a strong sense of community amongst the collaborators, and they already have experience in resolving disputes amicably, or at least efficently, among themselves. However, if these things are not already in place, adding a wiki will not make them appear, and in fact the wiki will actually make their absence more strongly felt.


I suspect that the GPS wiki escapes the problems of other wikis because by its very nature it cannot "atomized" the information. GPS addresses are discrete self contained packets of information. No one is going to be stepping on the first two digits of a posted address for a location. In a way it is as if WP editors had to submit complete articles in each edit. This weakens the market simulation aspect and helps avoid some of the worst dynamics.
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dogbiscuit   Wikis That Work?   Sun 6th June 2010, 3:03pm
Peter Damian   Interesting post. I can think of a few wikis that...   Sun 6th June 2010, 3:18pm
anthony   The mailing lists are the model of civility (in t...   Sun 6th June 2010, 3:21pm
dogbiscuit   Which mailing lists have you been reading? The n...   Sun 6th June 2010, 5:20pm
Milton Roe   Has anyone else any involvements in wikis that re...   Sun 6th June 2010, 5:43pm
GlassBeadGame   It occurred to me that a recent interest of mine ...   Sun 6th June 2010, 5:46pm
radek   A wiki can work when it is used as a tool for col...   Sun 6th June 2010, 9:41pm
Kelly Martin   I suspect that the GPS wiki escapes the problems o...   Mon 7th June 2010, 1:21am
radek   It occurred to me that a recent interest of mine ...   Sun 6th June 2010, 9:26pm
jayvdb   I'd like to think that Wikisource is a wiki wh...   Wed 9th June 2010, 11:23pm
CharlotteWebb   As a result, I think English Wikipedia needs to b...   Thu 10th June 2010, 12:38am
Milton Roe   I suppose if one improves (re-writes?) the softwa...   Thu 10th June 2010, 3:10am
Kelly Martin   It's so the goddamn YOU HAVE A MESSAGE ON YOUR...   Thu 10th June 2010, 3:25am
jayvdb   [quote name='jayvdb' post='240064' date='Wed 9th ...   Thu 10th June 2010, 3:35am
CharlotteWebb   The missing component is that the admins are not ...   Thu 10th June 2010, 5:38am
jayvdb   [quote name='jayvdb' post='240083' date='Thu 10th...   Thu 10th June 2010, 8:34am


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