Oh, this is going to have the Foundation in a tussle for the next week or two.
Hey, I didn't know Squeak was a pedo?
Rut roh, Raggy! It looks to me that Jana owes Squeakers a BIG apology. Squeak was actually the "hysterical antiped" who nominated the bio of notorious pedo Marthijn Uittenbogaard "for wikipedia scrapheap". Even more ironic in light of Squeak's last post here at The Review. As far as I know, SqueakBox has been a clear and consistent anti-pedo voice at Wikipedia.
I hope this is not indicative of the accuracy of the rest of the article. It otherwise seems better researched and written than her first two articles.
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QUOTE(Cedric @ Fri 25th June 2010, 1:32pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 25th June 2010, 12:19pm)
Oh, this is going to have the Foundation in a tussle for the next week or two.
Hey, I didn't know Squeak was a pedo?
Rut roh, Raggy! It looks to me that Jana owes Squeakers a BIG apology. Squeak was actually the "hysterical antiped" who nominated the bio of notorious pedo Marthijn Uittenbogaard "for wikipedia scrapheap". Even more ironic in light of Squeak's last post here at The Review. As far as I know, SqueakBox has been a clear and consistent anti-pedo voice at Wikipedia.
I hope this is not indicative of the accuracy of the rest of the article. It otherwise seems better researched and written than her first two articles.
Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "BoyChat" user using the pseudonym "SqueakBox." There is no reason to think that that is the same guy using the pseudonym here and on WP. In fact WP User:Squeak Box seems vaguely right headed in such matters although he has lots of problems letting go of WP preconceptions.
To make matters more confusing the PJ guy interviewed is Von Erck who's name so vividly suggests, at least to me, Erick Moeller, the Dr. Strangelove who advises Sue Gardner on free culture things from his position as Assistant Director of WMF.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 25th June 2010, 1:04pm)
Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "BoyChat" user using the pseudonym "SqueakBox." There is no reason to think that that is the same guy using the pseudonym here and on WP. In fact WP User:Squeak Box seems vaguely right headed in such matters although he has lots of problems letting go of WP preconceptions.
It's pretty coincidental that one squeakbox would be on WP nominating the AFD, while another, evil squeakbox would be on a pedoforum rallying the forces of darkness. I mean, it's not even that great a pen name. Much more likely that she misread her own notes and transposed a character. Ruh roh, indeed.
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To make matters more confusing the PJ guy interviewed is Von Erck who's name so vividly suggests, at least to me, Erick Moeller, the Dr. Strangelove who advises Sue Gardner on free culture things from his position as Assistant Director of WMF.
While they're both ercksome in their own way, they're not easily confused - totally different species of jackass.
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Fri 25th June 2010, 3:10pm)
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 25th June 2010, 1:04pm)
Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "BoyChat" user using the pseudonym "SqueakBox." There is no reason to think that that is the same guy using the pseudonym here and on WP. In fact WP User:Squeak Box seems vaguely right headed in such matters although he has lots of problems letting go of WP preconceptions.
It's pretty coincidental that one squeakbox would be on WP nominating the AFD, while another, evil squeakbox would be on a pedoforum rallying the forces of darkness. I mean, it's not even that great a pen name. Much more likely that she misread her own notes and transposed a character. Ruh roh, indeed.
That occurred to me too. But Ms. Winter makes no mention that this is WP User:Squeak Box or even any mention of him at all. I can easily imagine, as you suggest, a mix up in her notes. I can also easily imagine some pedophile or lulzer from WP going onto the pedophile site using the same pseudonym to cause mischief.
QUOTE(Cedric @ Fri 25th June 2010, 3:13pm)
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 25th June 2010, 3:04pm)
Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "BoyChat" user using the pseudonym "SqueakBox." There is no reason to think that that is the same guy using the pseudonym here and on WP. In fact WP User:Squeak Box seems vaguely right headed in such matters although he has lots of problems letting go of WP preconceptions.
To make matters more confusing the PJ guy interviewed is Von Erck who's name so vividly suggests, at least to me, Erick Moeller, the Dr. Strangelove who advises Sue Gardner on free culture things from his position as Assistant Director of WMF.
I agree with all of this except the first sentence. While it is possible that the editor trying to have a pedo's bio deleted and the pedo activist trying to stop the deletion were both using the same pseudonym, it seems to me far more likely that Winters mentioned the wrong pseudonym in the article by mistake. On Von Erck's "Wikisposure" site, there is no "SqueakBox" mentioned on his list of BoyChat members. The only mention of a "Squeakbox" on the site was to a "Wikipedian" who was threatened by some pedos ("Anyone visiting the Caribbean could do Wikipedia a favor: there's a Squeakbox there that needs fixing to ensure it no longer squeaks."). That has to be the Squeak we know. This time, at least, I will take Von Erck's word for it. I do not intend to take my browser anywhere near BoyChat to do a search.
Yes, the absence of Squeak Box in the list does argue for a mix up in the notes.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 25th June 2010, 2:29pm)
That occurred to me too. But Ms. Winter makes no mention that this is WP User:Squeak Box or even any mention of him at all. I can easily imagine, as you suggest, a mix up in her notes. I can also easily imagine some pedophile or lulzer from WP going onto the pedophile site using the same pseudonym to cause mischief.
Conceded. But if that were the case, her minimal diligence (ie skimming the AFD) would have revealed the doppleganging, and been noted at least in passing. Still, you're right, I never really considered that. But I'm very knaive and trusting.
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