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Stillwaterising has come in for much criticism at WR but he is saying the right thing here, isn't he?

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I guess I don't see how our current policies are working. Case in point: Futanari. The current revision (here) displays an image that has been up since June 21. The image passed a Deletion Review on Commons (fail). I twice tried to remove the image (fail). I went to AN/I to request that the users be blocked and the page be full protected (fail). I've actually been warned to not remove the image again or face a block (fail).I also reported the image to infowikimedia.org yesterday, no reply (fail). I even reported this to ArbCom - no action taken (fail). Finally, I've reported the image to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children yesterday, however I do not expect quick action from them. Bashing Fox News is not helpful. They did not cause this problem, and vehement denials will not solve this. - Stillwaterising (talk) 19:41, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

None of those are fails, they are all good. This is more clear cut than the Virgin Killer farrago, and the image is clearly not problematic. If you continue to make threats you may be blocked again. This is not a case in point, but an example of the policy working. Verbal chat 20:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Is Commons:Category:Erotic activities involving children "all good" too? How is it a example of policy working for you to threaten me here for something I'm not doing? Isn't this just an example of and admin not following existing policies like WP:Harassment? - Stillwaterising (talk) 21:19, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I have no interest in clicking that link and I have no interest in the commons. Your "example" is irrelevant as it does not depict "child porn" in a legal sense or the Fox sense. It is irrelevant. As I said on ANI, you are continuing to attempt to induce a chilling effect with your ill-founded claims and canvass them. You've stated your opinion, you've reported the picture. No action has been taken. Learn from that. Verbal chat 21:24, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo#Fox_News_report


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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sun 27th June 2010, 10:21am) *

Stillwaterising has come in for much criticism at WR but he is saying the right thing here, isn't he?

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I guess I don't see how our current policies are working. Case in point: Futanari. The current revision (here) displays an image that has been up since June 21. The image passed a Deletion Review on Commons (fail). I twice tried to remove the image (fail). I went to AN/I to request that the users be blocked and the page be full protected (fail). I've actually been warned to not remove the image again or face a block (fail).I also reported the image to infowikimedia.org yesterday, no reply (fail). I even reported this to ArbCom - no action taken (fail). Finally, I've reported the image to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children yesterday, however I do not expect quick action from them. Bashing Fox News is not helpful. They did not cause this problem, and vehement denials will not solve this. - Stillwaterising (talk) 19:41, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

None of those are fails, they are all good. This is more clear cut than the Virgin Killer farrago, and the image is clearly not problematic. If you continue to make threats you may be blocked again. This is not a case in point, but an example of the policy working. Verbal chat 20:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Is Commons:Category:Erotic activities involving children "all good" too? How is it a example of policy working for you to threaten me here for something I'm not doing? Isn't this just an example of and admin not following existing policies like WP:Harassment? - Stillwaterising (talk) 21:19, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I have no interest in clicking that link and I have no interest in the commons. Your "example" is irrelevant as it does not depict "child porn" in a legal sense or the Fox sense. It is irrelevant. As I said on ANI, you are continuing to attempt to induce a chilling effect with your ill-founded claims and canvass them. You've stated your opinion, you've reported the picture. No action has been taken. Learn from that. Verbal chat 21:24, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo#Fox_News_report


Stillwaterising occasionally says something that seems quite reasonable and with which I might agree were it not for the other things he says. If this isn't a deliberate attempt to subvert any real reform around the area of questionable pornographic images on WP and Commons, it might as well be. Stillwaterising argues that a manga-style illustration of hermaphroditic figures is child porn in part because "The character on the right has long hair suggesting maturity". Future attempts to deal with the issues underlying similar concerns will invariably be related to this - for example, Niabot, the creator of this image is one of the opponents of the WMF study of objectionable content (WR discussion of that study starts here)...
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Newsfeed   EXCLUSIVE: Pedophiles Find a Home on Wikipedia - FOXNews   Fri 25th June 2010, 4:50pm
Jon Awbrey   Working Link What's the deal with the GøøGÃ...   Fri 25th June 2010, 5:08pm
thekohser   Oh, this is going to have the Foundation in a tuss...   Fri 25th June 2010, 5:19pm
GlassBeadGame   Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero ...   Fri 25th June 2010, 5:28pm
Jon Awbrey   Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero...   Fri 25th June 2010, 6:40pm
Milton Roe   Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero...   Fri 25th June 2010, 6:43pm
Cedric   Oh, this is going to have the Foundation in a tus...   Fri 25th June 2010, 7:32pm
GlassBeadGame   Oh, this is going to have the Foundation in a tu...   Fri 25th June 2010, 8:04pm
Subtle Bee   Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "Boy...   Fri 25th June 2010, 9:10pm
GlassBeadGame   Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "Bo...   Fri 25th June 2010, 9:29pm
Subtle Bee   That occurred to me too. But Ms. Winter makes no ...   Fri 25th June 2010, 9:55pm
Cedric   Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "Boy...   Fri 25th June 2010, 9:13pm
EricBarbour   Correct link, for those who can't figger out h...   Fri 25th June 2010, 10:15pm
thekohser   The most important part of this article centers on...   Sat 26th June 2010, 2:43am
Cedric   The most important part of this article centers o...   Sat 26th June 2010, 3:25am
Larry Sanger   [quote name='thekohser' post='241632' date='Fri 2...   Sat 26th June 2010, 4:53am
EricBarbour   Indeed, if this person actually has significant au...   Sat 26th June 2010, 5:29am
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='Larry Sanger' post='241638' date='Fr...   Sat 26th June 2010, 6:23am
Milton Roe   The President certainly has bigger fish to fry an...   Sat 26th June 2010, 8:20am
Peter Damian   A site search shows there is a "Squeakbox...   Sat 26th June 2010, 6:16am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   This is good ... has anyone actually spoken to Jan...   Sat 26th June 2010, 7:40am
Peter Damian   Presidents are over-rated when it comes to this k...   Sat 26th June 2010, 10:11am
WikiWatch   Interesting. Fox seems to think it can smell blood...   Sat 26th June 2010, 10:36am
dogbiscuit   Wikipedia is such an easy target, through their ow...   Sat 26th June 2010, 10:06am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero ...   Sat 26th June 2010, 2:52pm
GlassBeadGame   Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero...   Sat 26th June 2010, 8:11pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Who ... Erik 'the Child' Moellester?[quote...   Sun 27th June 2010, 3:24am
EricBarbour   So, just to clarify, it was ... Erik '[i]The ...   Mon 28th June 2010, 12:20am
HRIP7   [quote name='HRIP7' post='241753' date='Sun 27th ...   Mon 28th June 2010, 1:48am
The Wales Hunter   Just noticed Squeakbox (Wiki user) is threatening ...   Sat 26th June 2010, 3:39pm
GlassBeadGame   Just noticed Squeakbox (Wiki user) is threatening...   Sat 26th June 2010, 4:26pm
CharlotteWebb   Just noticed Squeakbox (Wiki user) is threatening...   Sat 26th June 2010, 4:38pm
The Wales Hunter   Surprising the right-wingers on WP didn't bee...   Sat 26th June 2010, 7:46pm
Cedric   [quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='241668' date='S...   Sat 26th June 2010, 9:21pm
CharlotteWebb   Ha! I've read the Tweets of the man behin...   Sat 26th June 2010, 9:45pm
thekohser   Wikipedia Squeakbox has always come across as one...   Sun 27th June 2010, 7:52pm
Larry Sanger   ... So, he's one of the few Wikipedians oppos...   Mon 28th June 2010, 2:55am
the fieryangel   But there was a purge of pedophile editors in 200...   Mon 28th June 2010, 8:00am
dogbiscuit   But there was a purge of pedophile editors in 200...   Mon 28th June 2010, 10:21am
Stillwaterising   It is also worth remembering that you have to thi...   Mon 28th June 2010, 12:17pm
GlassBeadGame   It is also worth remembering that you have to th...   Mon 28th June 2010, 2:04pm
carbuncle   [quote name='Stillwaterising' post='241794' date=...   Mon 28th June 2010, 2:13pm
Selina   Wow, Fox news got something right for a change... ...   Sat 26th June 2010, 5:02pm
Peter Damian   The discussion on Jimbo's talk page http://en....   Sat 26th June 2010, 6:40pm
GlassBeadGame   The discussion on Jimbo's talk page http://en...   Sat 26th June 2010, 6:55pm
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Moulton   Case 1: Impostor B claims to be A, whilst A cites ...   Sun 27th June 2010, 12:59pm
CharlotteWebb   [quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='241684' date='S...   Sun 27th June 2010, 2:47pm
Moulton   Game theory, gotta love it. Philosopher-Logician R...   Sun 27th June 2010, 6:49pm
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HRIP7   Stillwaterising has come in for much criticism at...   Sun 27th June 2010, 10:52am
GlassBeadGame   Stillwaterising has come in for much criticism at...   Sun 27th June 2010, 3:37pm
Somey   To him the important thing is be some kind of ...   Sun 27th June 2010, 4:14pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Right, but putting his underlying motives aside fo...   Sun 27th June 2010, 5:38pm
Somey   Is it Japanese culture, pornography culture or und...   Sun 27th June 2010, 7:13pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   It's all three, and to some extent it can be a...   Mon 28th June 2010, 4:36am
HRIP7   [quote name='Somey' post='241727' date='Sun 27th ...   Sun 27th June 2010, 11:53pm
Jon Awbrey   He has learned how to get Wikipedia to feed his p...   Sun 27th June 2010, 4:18pm
Stillwaterising   I guess what I'm saying is that I can accept ...   Mon 28th June 2010, 1:04am
Peter Damian   False.   Sun 27th June 2010, 3:17pm
Peter Damian   Wales removed the discussion immediately after thi...   Sun 27th June 2010, 6:47pm
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