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| GlassBeadGame |
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Lets return from the rabbit hole of user generated content on Wikipedia and examine the truthfulness of Sue Garners "zero tolerance" statement. What policies has the WMF board issued? What procedures, practices and protections has the staff of WMF implemented eliminate pedophile editing and protect children? I believe the answer to both is none at all. I am not talking about whatever user content, whether called "policy," "standards," "Arbcom Rulings" or "essays" might pretend to address the issue. All of this material deposited by the users of the interactive service provided by WMF. WMF can in no way rely on this kind of transient and casual content and call it "zero tolerance." It exists, even in the sad shape we find it, until the next anon user, perhaps a pedophile, hits the edit button.
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| Subtle Bee |
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Mon 28th June 2010, 12:40pm)  What is not clear is what exactly tends to drive that house point of view. My best guess is that in the main it seems to be anti-establishment (resisted trying to work in antidisestablishmentarianism to the post) - which is interesting to consider how a radical view on tolerance of extremes of sexual behaviour fits with that - together with the deliberate blurring of definitions by those with agendas.
So you resisted working it in, until you stopped resisting? Who cares, it's rare to see blunt & subtle go together like that. QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 28th June 2010, 12:56pm)  "Unmarried urban Canadian male grad student" is even shorter.
Some day in the tarpit you're going to have to expound on your view of Canadians... though if you intended "irreligious and liberal", I think that's fair. Computer skillz? Meh. Metrosexual? Not until beer & flannel come (back?) into style. QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Mon 28th June 2010, 12:59pm)  Lets return from the rabbit hole of user generated content on Wikipedia and examine the truthfulness of Sue Garners "zero tolerance" statement. What policies has the WMF board issued? What procedures, practices and protections has the staff of WMF implemented eliminate pedophile editing and protect children? I believe the answer to both is none at all. I am not talking about whatever user content, whether called "policy," "standards," "Arbcom Rulings" or "essays" might pretend to address the issue. All of this material deposited by the users of the interactive service provided by WMF. WMF can in no way rely on this kind of transient and casual content and call it "zero tolerance." It exists, even in the sad shape we find it, until the next anon user, perhaps a pedophile, hits the edit button.
I think the disconnect is that wikiculture has such a vague notion of "policy", where nothing is prescriptive but everything is binding, depending on the social capital of the proponents. There are no real rules, and if there are, then IAR. So it's not that they're "pretending" to address the issue - they just don't know how, because they have no mechanisms for addressing any issue - except Jimbo. Making policies they can't and won't enforce, and calling it a day, is just what they do.
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Newsfeed EXCLUSIVE: Pedophiles Find a Home on Wikipedia - FOXNews Fri 25th June 2010, 4:50pm Jon Awbrey Working Link
What's the deal with the GøøGÃ... Fri 25th June 2010, 5:08pm thekohser Oh, this is going to have the Foundation in a tuss... Fri 25th June 2010, 5:19pm GlassBeadGame Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero ... Fri 25th June 2010, 5:28pm  Jon Awbrey
Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero... Fri 25th June 2010, 6:40pm  Milton Roe
Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero... Fri 25th June 2010, 6:43pm Cedric
Oh, this is going to have the Foundation in a tus... Fri 25th June 2010, 7:32pm  GlassBeadGame
Oh, this is going to have the Foundation in a tu... Fri 25th June 2010, 8:04pm   Subtle Bee
Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "Boy... Fri 25th June 2010, 9:10pm    GlassBeadGame
Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "Bo... Fri 25th June 2010, 9:29pm     Subtle Bee
That occurred to me too. But Ms. Winter makes no ... Fri 25th June 2010, 9:55pm   Cedric
Ms. Winters seems to be talking about a "Boy... Fri 25th June 2010, 9:13pm EricBarbour Correct link, for those who can't figger out h... Fri 25th June 2010, 10:15pm thekohser The most important part of this article centers on... Sat 26th June 2010, 2:43am Cedric
The most important part of this article centers o... Sat 26th June 2010, 3:25am  Larry Sanger
[quote name='thekohser' post='241632' date='Fri 2... Sat 26th June 2010, 4:53am   EricBarbour Indeed, if this person actually has significant au... Sat 26th June 2010, 5:29am    GlassBeadGame
[quote name='Larry Sanger' post='241638' date='Fr... Sat 26th June 2010, 6:23am     Milton Roe
The President certainly has bigger fish to fry an... Sat 26th June 2010, 8:20am Peter Damian A site search shows there is a "Squeakbox... Sat 26th June 2010, 6:16am Cock-up-over-conspiracy This is good ... has anyone actually spoken to Jan... Sat 26th June 2010, 7:40am Peter Damian
Presidents are over-rated when it comes to this k... Sat 26th June 2010, 10:11am  WikiWatch Interesting. Fox seems to think it can smell blood... Sat 26th June 2010, 10:36am dogbiscuit Wikipedia is such an easy target, through their ow... Sat 26th June 2010, 10:06am Cock-up-over-conspiracy Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero ... Sat 26th June 2010, 2:52pm  GlassBeadGame
Sue Gardner obviously has no idea what "zero... Sat 26th June 2010, 8:11pm   Cock-up-over-conspiracy Who ... Erik 'the Child' Moellester?[quote... Sun 27th June 2010, 3:24am    EricBarbour So, just to clarify, it was ... Erik '[i]The ... Mon 28th June 2010, 12:20am     HRIP7
[quote name='HRIP7' post='241753' date='Sun 27th ... Mon 28th June 2010, 1:48am The Wales Hunter Just noticed Squeakbox (Wiki user) is threatening ... Sat 26th June 2010, 3:39pm GlassBeadGame
Just noticed Squeakbox (Wiki user) is threatening... Sat 26th June 2010, 4:26pm CharlotteWebb
Just noticed Squeakbox (Wiki user) is threatening... Sat 26th June 2010, 4:38pm  The Wales Hunter
Surprising the right-wingers on WP didn't bee... Sat 26th June 2010, 7:46pm   Cedric
[quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='241668' date='S... Sat 26th June 2010, 9:21pm   CharlotteWebb
Ha! I've read the Tweets of the man behin... Sat 26th June 2010, 9:45pm   thekohser
Wikipedia Squeakbox has always come across as one... Sun 27th June 2010, 7:52pm    Larry Sanger
... So, he's one of the few Wikipedians oppos... Mon 28th June 2010, 2:55am     the fieryangel
But there was a purge of pedophile editors in 200... Mon 28th June 2010, 8:00am      dogbiscuit
But there was a purge of pedophile editors in 200... Mon 28th June 2010, 10:21am       Stillwaterising
It is also worth remembering that you have to thi... Mon 28th June 2010, 12:17pm        GlassBeadGame
It is also worth remembering that you have to th... Mon 28th June 2010, 2:04pm         carbuncle
[quote name='Stillwaterising' post='241794' date=... Mon 28th June 2010, 2:13pm Selina Wow, Fox news got something right for a change...
... Sat 26th June 2010, 5:02pm Peter Damian The discussion on Jimbo's talk page http://en.... Sat 26th June 2010, 6:40pm GlassBeadGame
The discussion on Jimbo's talk page http://en... Sat 26th June 2010, 6:55pm  Peter Damian
Can you provide confirmation of (11)? This has ... Sat 26th June 2010, 6:56pm   GlassBeadGame
Can you provide confirmation of (11)? This has... Sat 26th June 2010, 7:07pm  CharlotteWebb
[quote name='Cock-up-over-conspira... Sat 26th June 2010, 9:27pm   Moulton Case 1: Impostor B claims to be A, whilst A cites ... Sun 27th June 2010, 12:59pm    CharlotteWebb
[quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='241684' date='S... Sun 27th June 2010, 2:47pm     Moulton Game theory, gotta love it.
Philosopher-Logician R... Sun 27th June 2010, 6:49pm Theanima Fox News may well be right here, but it's a sh... Sat 26th June 2010, 7:56pm Peter Damian Stillwaterising has come in for much criticism at ... Sun 27th June 2010, 10:21am HRIP7
Stillwaterising has come in for much criticism at... Sun 27th June 2010, 10:52am carbuncle
Stillwaterising has come in for much criticism at... Sun 27th June 2010, 12:00pm GlassBeadGame
Stillwaterising has come in for much criticism at... Sun 27th June 2010, 3:37pm  Somey To him the important thing is be some kind of ... Sun 27th June 2010, 4:14pm   Cock-up-over-conspiracy Right, but putting his underlying motives aside fo... Sun 27th June 2010, 5:38pm    Somey Is it Japanese culture, pornography culture or und... Sun 27th June 2010, 7:13pm     Cock-up-over-conspiracy It's all three, and to some extent it can be a... Mon 28th June 2010, 4:36am    HRIP7
[quote name='Somey' post='241727' date='Sun 27th ... Sun 27th June 2010, 11:53pm  Jon Awbrey
He has learned how to get Wikipedia to feed his p... Sun 27th June 2010, 4:18pm Stillwaterising
I guess what I'm saying is that I can accept ... Mon 28th June 2010, 1:04am Peter Damian
False. Sun 27th June 2010, 3:17pm Peter Damian Wales removed the discussion immediately after thi... Sun 27th June 2010, 6:47pm SB_Johnny
Wales removed the discussion immediately after th... Sun 27th June 2010, 9:56pm tarantino These photos by an early 20th century German gynec... Mon 28th June 2010, 4:10am Cock-up-over-conspiracy Let's look at this from a different angle ... ... Mon 28th June 2010, 4:48am thekohser What is it about Wikipediots that they can't s... Mon 28th June 2010, 2:53pm Kelly Martin What is it about Wikipediots that they can't s... Mon 28th June 2010, 3:03pm  Jon Awbrey
What is it about Wikipediots that they [url=http... Mon 28th June 2010, 3:08pm thekohser The DJ weighs in, after saying "I looked into... Mon 28th June 2010, 3:19pm Somey This is only tangentially related to the thread, b... Mon 28th June 2010, 5:53pm thekohser
My question is, why on earth does WP carry an art... Mon 28th June 2010, 7:49pm Peter Damian Answering some of Larry’s questions:
# On the ... Mon 28th June 2010, 6:46pm Kelly Martin The problem (as DogBiscuit clearly explains above)... Mon 28th June 2010, 6:57pm  dogbiscuit
This is only true if the point of view being forw... Mon 28th June 2010, 7:40pm   Milton Roe
Of course there are other sub-topics that have di... Mon 28th June 2010, 7:56pm  CharlotteWebb
For example, note the large number of single-purp... Mon 28th June 2010, 10:32pm danielaword
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Wikipedia has become home base for a ... Mon 28th June 2010, 8:19pm carbuncle
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Wikipedia has become home base for a... Mon 28th June 2010, 8:32pm Peter Damian It irritates me that they are going on about the e... Mon 28th June 2010, 8:41pm thekohser
So please Mr TheDJ, check your sources. Jana... Mon 28th June 2010, 8:45pm Alison And as regards current policy (such that it is), s... Tue 29th June 2010, 2:13am GlassBeadGame
And as regards current policy (such that it is), ... Tue 29th June 2010, 2:50am  Alison
This is usually about the time some shithead Wiki... Tue 29th June 2010, 10:05am   the fieryangel
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='241874' date='M... Tue 29th June 2010, 11:27am    GlassBeadGame
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='241874' date='... Tue 29th June 2010, 4:52pm     Subtle Bee
[quote name='the fieryangel' post='241900' date='... Tue 29th June 2010, 6:18pm      GlassBeadGame
[quote name='the fieryangel' post='241900' date=... Tue 29th June 2010, 6:49pm    Alison
[quote name='Alison' post='241895' date='Tue 29th... Wed 30th June 2010, 12:55am     tarantino
[quote name='the fieryangel' post='241900' date='... Wed 30th June 2010, 2:43am     thekohser
And I'm no apologist for Jimmy Wales, but I s... Wed 30th June 2010, 2:45am      Alison
Well, Allie, maybe if Jimbo hadn't habitually... Wed 30th June 2010, 4:37am     Cock-up-over-conspiracy I spent/spend a lot of time covering up personal i... Wed 30th June 2010, 4:35am  Alison
This is usually about the time some shithead Wiki... Wed 30th June 2010, 4:35am Cock-up-over-conspiracy I just do not see why volunteers should waste thei... Tue 29th June 2010, 2:40am
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