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carbuncle
post Sun 25th July 2010, 9:17pm
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You may recall earlier threads discussing Cirt's aggressive anti-Scientology efforts on WP, and the suggestion that Cirt may be a paid editor. A recent thread on ANI involving Cirt's creation of Daryl Wine Bar and Restaurant, which looks like the type of thing an experienced paid editor would write, made me look at the again at the paid editing suggestions.

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I suggested an article was a puff piece. Rather than engage in discussion, the article creator has been deleting standard WP procedures for addressing these concerns. Cirt has been both disruptive and using harrassing techniques to defend the article used to advertise the "Daryl restaurant and wine bar." He clearly has a personal interest in the restaurant is is using his position as an administrator abusively. Njsustain (talk) 17:23, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Cirt recently created a ridiculous puff piece for minor actress Jamie Sorrentini. Turns out that Sorrentini is a former Scientologist whose story is told here. One of the partners in Daryl Winebar? Its namesake Daryl Sorrentini, who happens to be the mother of Jamie Sorrentini. Is it possible that Cirt's "paid editing" has really just been an extreme extension of their anti-Scientology editing?
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I notice that the website for the Daryl Wine Bar in New Jersey hasn't really figured out how to display their menus. Maybe Cirt could help them out by posting the menu on their Wikipedia article.
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Interesting hypocrisy by Cirt, who opposes a user's RFA on the basis that said user has a "history of sanctions".

How much nerve does it take to say this, having passed one's own RFA by failing to disclose one's own "history of sanctions"?

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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 28th October 2010, 12:29am) *

Interesting hypocrisy by Cirt, who opposes a user's RFA on the basis that said user has a "history of sanctions".

How much nerve does it take to say this, having passed one's own RFA by failing to disclose one's own "history of sanctions"?


It appears that Cirt’s shiny new article is being nominated for deletion based on BLP and Coatrack issues: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Art...dcasting_System

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QUOTE(rockyBarton @ Thu 11th November 2010, 1:22pm) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 28th October 2010, 12:29am) *

Interesting hypocrisy by Cirt, who opposes a user's RFA on the basis that said user has a "history of sanctions".

How much nerve does it take to say this, having passed one's own RFA by failing to disclose one's own "history of sanctions"?


It appears that Cirt’s shiny new article is being nominated for deletion based on BLP and Coatrack issues: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Art...dcasting_System


Eh, phooey! Cirt is such a bore! hrmph.gif
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 11th November 2010, 7:13pm) *

QUOTE(rockyBarton @ Thu 11th November 2010, 1:22pm) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 28th October 2010, 12:29am) *

Interesting hypocrisy by Cirt, who opposes a user's RFA on the basis that said user has a "history of sanctions".

How much nerve does it take to say this, having passed one's own RFA by failing to disclose one's own "history of sanctions"?


It appears that Cirt’s shiny new article is being nominated for deletion based on BLP and Coatrack issues: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Art...dcasting_System


Eh, phooey! Cirt is such a bore! hrmph.gif

Cirt has left notices about the AFD at a dozen Wikiprojects, not to mention user pages. How does Cirt manage to get away with such overt canvasing?
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post Fri 12th November 2010, 2:29am
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Thu 11th November 2010, 7:58pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 11th November 2010, 7:13pm) *

QUOTE(rockyBarton @ Thu 11th November 2010, 1:22pm) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 28th October 2010, 12:29am) *

Interesting hypocrisy by Cirt, who opposes a user's RFA on the basis that said user has a "history of sanctions".

How much nerve does it take to say this, having passed one's own RFA by failing to disclose one's own "history of sanctions"?


It appears that Cirt’s shiny new article is being nominated for deletion based on BLP and Coatrack issues: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Art...dcasting_System


Eh, phooey! Cirt is such a bore! hrmph.gif

Cirt has left notices about the AFD at a dozen Wikiprojects, not to mention user pages. How does Cirt manage to get away with such overt canvasing?

Cirt is up to her old tricks again. Clever use of the plagiarism and copyright violation meme in the AfD. Of course, guess who placed all those "warnings" ...
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Fri 12th November 2010, 3:29am) *

Cirt is up to her old tricks again. Clever use of the plagiarism and copyright violation meme in the AfD. Of course, guess who placed all those "warnings" ...

On Commons, he tagged photos of the covers of the Book of Mormon for copyright infringement... - it is just a few words, that never were copyrighted anyway. Looks mostly like harassment of the contributors.
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post Sat 4th December 2010, 8:21pm
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QUOTE(pietkuip @ Sun 14th November 2010, 6:00am) *

On Commons, he tagged photos of the covers of the Book of Mormon for copyright infringement... - it is just a few words, that never were copyrighted anyway. Looks mostly like harassment of the contributors.


Of course harassing people on Commons via allegations of copyvio isn't something you'd know anything about, is it?
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QUOTE(Lar @ Sat 4th December 2010, 9:21pm) *

QUOTE(pietkuip @ Sun 14th November 2010, 6:00am) *

On Commons, he tagged photos of the covers of the Book of Mormon for copyright infringement... - it is just a few words, that never were copyrighted anyway. Looks mostly like harassment of the contributors.


Of course harassing people on Commons via allegations of copyvio isn't something you'd know anything about, is it?

You abused your admin buttons to block me when I made deletion requests of your uploads. Those DRs were in line with Commons policy. This one ended in delete; this one was kept by your cronies. But it is good to have such an example, to counter the deletionism on Commons.
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post Thu 9th December 2010, 1:13am
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QUOTE(pietkuip @ Wed 8th December 2010, 2:36pm) *

QUOTE(Lar @ Sat 4th December 2010, 9:21pm) *

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On Commons, he tagged photos of the covers of the Book of Mormon for copyright infringement... - it is just a few words, that never were copyrighted anyway. Looks mostly like harassment of the contributors.


Of course harassing people on Commons via allegations of copyvio isn't something you'd know anything about, is it?

You abused your admin buttons to block me when I made deletion requests of your uploads. Those DRs were in line with Commons policy. This one ended in delete; this one was kept by your cronies. But it is good to have such an example, to counter the deletionism on Commons.

Your blocks, and they are legion, have nothing to do with your deletion requests, as requests. Merely with your combative nature. You really shouldn't criticize others while your own house is in such disarray.
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QUOTE(Lar @ Thu 9th December 2010, 2:13am) *
... with your combative nature. You really shouldn't criticize others while your own house is in such disarray.

I do not have much to do combat with. But you have all these hats and buttons. When I made a DR of your uploads, you knocked me down with a block. Abuse of power.

And back to the subject - "combative" fits Cirt.

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QUOTE(pietkuip @ Thu 9th December 2010, 7:16am) *

And back to the subject - "combative" fits Cirt.

Note Cirt's spat with Scott MacDonald a few days ago. Cirt backed down in the end.

And there is currently an ANI spat between Cirt and Delicious Carbuncle.

While Delicious Carbuncle was in the wrong there as regards the BLP source, he is right for much of the rest. The thing is that in a way this comes a year or two too late -- Cirt is not quite the out-of-control POV warrior any more that s/he was then, and has been far more reasonable of late.

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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Sat 11th December 2010, 1:55pm) *

QUOTE(pietkuip @ Thu 9th December 2010, 7:16am) *

And back to the subject - "combative" fits Cirt.

Note Cirt's spat with Scott MacDonald a few days ago. Cirt backed down in the end.

And there is currently an ANI spat between Cirt and Delicious Carbuncle.

While Delicious Carbuncle was in the wrong there as regards the BLP source, he is right for much of the rest. The thing is that in a way this comes a year or two too late -- Cirt is not quite the out-of-control POV warrior any more that s/he was then, and has been far more reasonable of late.

You misread what happened in the dispute between Scott and Cirt. Cirt had managed to stymie any effort to substantially remove obvious puffery from Sorrentini's bio. When Cirt raised the issue about sourcing at the reliable sources noticeboard, the very next thing they did was remove the disputed items so that the article was not tagged with a "POV dispute" template when people went to look at it. Otherwise, I'm sure it would have been removed when Scott gave up arguing about the details of an article that really shouldn't exist anyway. Meaning no offence, this is a minor TV actor with no significant credits, like literally thousands working in television at any one time.

I really do not wish to enable Scientologists to return to WP to push their point of view, but Cirt is being allowed to get away with all kinds of nonsense as WP's anti-Scientology attack dog. There are a number of articles that exist simply to label some otherwise unremarkable business or person as connected to the CoS. This is a systematic use of WP as the classic "organ of revenge", even if it is "far more reasonable of late".
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carbuncle   Cirt revisited   Sun 25th July 2010, 9:17pm
Herschelkrustofsky   Interesting. I hope that one or more of our Review...   Sun 25th July 2010, 9:47pm
EricBarbour   Cirt recently created a ridiculous puff piece for ...   Sun 25th July 2010, 9:59pm
carbuncle   So following up my own post, I took a look at the ...   Sun 25th July 2010, 10:09pm
CharlotteWebb   [quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='244129' date='Th...   Mon 26th July 2010, 12:10am
carbuncle   Cutting to the chase, how unusual is it for a con...   Mon 26th July 2010, 2:10pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   You may recall [url=http://wikipediareview.com/ind...   Mon 26th July 2010, 1:35am
A Horse With No Name   You may recall earlier threads discussing Cirt...   Mon 26th July 2010, 2:30pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='carbuncle' post='245337' date='Sun 2...   Mon 26th July 2010, 7:58pm
chrisoff   I agree. Reminiscent of all his cheese cookbook ...   Mon 26th July 2010, 3:00pm
Peter Damian   It's completely incredible. On a project like ...   Mon 26th July 2010, 6:55pm
A Horse With No Name   It's called 'disruption by user Njsustai...   Mon 26th July 2010, 7:26pm
Peter Damian   The discussion here is also astonishing. http://e...   Mon 26th July 2010, 8:16pm
Milton Roe   [edit] And Jimbo even brings in Mzoli's meats...   Mon 26th July 2010, 11:44pm
cookiehead   I had a little run in with "Cirt" on som...   Tue 27th July 2010, 2:37am
Jagärdu   Ha. Cirt is busy writing for the enemy. Clearly ...   Tue 27th July 2010, 3:47am
Jon Awbrey   Ha. Cirt is busy writing for the enemy. Clearly...   Tue 27th July 2010, 3:52am
cookiehead   [quote name='Jagärdu' post='245479' date='Mon 26...   Tue 27th July 2010, 4:16am
ulsterman   I had a little run in with "Cirt" on so...   Tue 27th July 2010, 10:24am
EricBarbour   The Daryl Wine Bar article is an ugly, ugly joke--...   Tue 27th July 2010, 5:54am
milowent   I just stumbled upon the Daryl's AfD, and the ...   Tue 27th July 2010, 7:16am
taiwopanfob   (edit): oohhhh! Looky look, Jimbo told Cirt t...   Tue 27th July 2010, 11:15am
thekohser   Cirt said "no to all questions" -- incl...   Tue 27th July 2010, 1:54pm
Jagärdu   I have had many discussions with Cirt electronica...   Tue 27th July 2010, 3:12pm
Avirosa   He then believes he is "assisting" or ...   Tue 27th July 2010, 3:55pm
cookiehead   well at least the godking gets it. seems like a re...   Tue 27th July 2010, 4:47pm
HRIP7   Cirt said "no to all questions" -- incl...   Fri 30th July 2010, 12:55am
thekohser   I see a lot of my old 2007 style in Cookiehead...   Tue 27th July 2010, 5:03pm
cookiehead   I see a lot of my old 2007 style in Cookiehead...   Tue 27th July 2010, 5:21pm
thekohser   Way to go, Cirt. A couple dozen people per day we...   Tue 27th July 2010, 5:20pm
Peter Damian   [url=http://stats.grok.se/en/201007/Daryl_Wine_Ba...   Tue 27th July 2010, 7:34pm
carbuncle   [url=http://stats.grok.se/en/201007/Daryl_Wine_Ba...   Tue 27th July 2010, 8:10pm
Jagärdu   ... when it suddenly jumped up to 1.8k. I don...   Tue 27th July 2010, 8:53pm
Peter Damian   Somewhat churlish of Cirt to block Ellipse Records...   Tue 27th July 2010, 7:00pm
Jagärdu   Somewhat churlish of Cirt to block Ellipse Record...   Tue 27th July 2010, 7:04pm
EricBarbour   The only editor other than Cirt who's been mak...   Tue 27th July 2010, 10:12pm
cookiehead   Well, Daryl's was saved! Hallelujah! (...   Mon 2nd August 2010, 3:55pm
carbuncle   Well, Daryl's was saved! Hallelujah! ...   Mon 2nd August 2010, 4:00pm
cookiehead   huge creepy anime (redundant!) picture That...   Mon 2nd August 2010, 4:05pm
carbuncle   [quote name='carbuncle' post='246235' date='Mon 2...   Mon 2nd August 2010, 4:09pm
CharlotteWebb   I'm sure Cirt gets the [url=http://en.wikiped...   Tue 3rd August 2010, 7:44am
Somey   But no, generally speaking I don't believe the...   Tue 3rd August 2010, 7:50am
CharlotteWebb   There's [imgx] to limit a large image to 100%...   Tue 3rd August 2010, 7:54am
Moulton   If we allowed people to enter their own preferred ...   Tue 3rd August 2010, 12:14pm
HRIP7   [quote name='Somey' post='246413' date='Tue 3rd A...   Wed 4th August 2010, 2:20am
A Horse With No Name   Meanwhile, Wikipedia's drive to cover New Jer...   Wed 4th August 2010, 3:09am
Somey   Meanwhile, Wikipedia's drive to cover New Jers...   Wed 4th August 2010, 3:39am
tarantino   Meanwhile, Wikipedia's drive to cover New Jer...   Wed 4th August 2010, 4:00am
HRIP7   [quote name='HRIP7' post='246568' date='Wed 4th A...   Wed 4th August 2010, 1:00pm
HRIP7   Well, Daryl's was saved! Hallelujah! ...   Mon 2nd August 2010, 7:23pm
cookiehead   [quote name='cookiehead' post='246234' date='Mon ...   Mon 2nd August 2010, 7:29pm
jayvdb   Well, Daryl's was saved! Hallelujah! ...   Tue 3rd August 2010, 7:03am
cookiehead   This just in the from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...   Mon 2nd August 2010, 4:38pm
Somey   And here's the obligatory main page reference,...   Wed 4th August 2010, 4:30am
EricBarbour   And here's the one for the [url=http://en.wiki...   Wed 4th August 2010, 6:21am
thekohser   If Cirt is not being paid for these, he or she is ...   Wed 4th August 2010, 12:28pm
Moulton   If Cirt is not being paid for these, he or she is ...   Wed 4th August 2010, 1:46pm
DoctorHver   If Cirt is not being paid for these, he or she is...   Wed 4th August 2010, 4:31pm
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thekohser   I notice the article says, "Author Jonathan Z...   Fri 27th August 2010, 3:31am
timbo   This Article created by Cirt yesterday has been n...   Fri 27th August 2010, 8:21pm
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Abd   Cirt has left notices about the AFD at a dozen Wik...   Thu 11th November 2010, 10:06pm
Lar   [quote name='pietkuip' post='259019' date='Sun 1...   Thu 9th December 2010, 1:13am
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HRIP7   I really do not wish to enable Scientologists to ...   Mon 13th December 2010, 2:42pm
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