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Thu 29th July 2010, 6:29am
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| thekohser |
Thu 29th July 2010, 12:11pm
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I'm curious in how many places is a Wikia.com link used as a reliable source (a references citation)?
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| Somey |
Thu 29th July 2010, 5:06pm
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This link doesn't really tell us much WRT the thread title, though. So, just from a cursory look at the site in question, I'd say there are several aspects that might make it appear to be a "reliable source" from Wikipedia's perspective: 1. No bylines 2. Posts are written in the form of news stories (though most are really just copied from press releases); anything written from first-person perspective is relegated to Perspectives section 3. Titles of posts almost never contain names of individuals (but plenty of acronyms and company references) 4. Site operator refers to himself as both "editor" and "publisher" 5. "About" page contains clear statement that the site is a commercial entity, actively looking for advertisers So basically, this site is strictly business - no partisan political commentary, no occasional "bits thrown in" about Paris Hilton or kittens or Fox News, no silly Youtube video embeds, no nothing. It doesn't look like a blog, read like a blog, or act like a blog, and it certainly doesn't say it's a blog. Personally, I would call Greencarcongress.com a "press release aggregator with guest commentary," which I suppose could be called a "blog" by some (maybe even most) definitions. But as for acting as a kind of "how to" for blog-spammers, the problem is that if you have to limit yourself to that extent just to appear to be a "WP:RS," what's the fun of having a blog at all? |
| cookiehead |
Fri 30th July 2010, 3:06am
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uh-oh.
I pissed off the blog's champion spammer (although he probably is a fan, AGF you know, he's not the blogger himself so there is that!). Wants to wait for "consensus". Never mind 2 other editors today, and 6 other Featured Article peer reviews also agree that it's not WP:RS. Hell hath not fury like a blog spammer scorned. We just have to have each sentence in article that already has a WP:RS with a 2nd supposed RS right next to it. Gotta get that traffic to that blog, the ad sales aren't happening and the mortgage is about to fall through. WP:SEENTHISMOVIEBEFORE. I'm shocked that Kohs isn't raking in millions by now (and he should, god bless 'im!) if its this easy to splam your friend's blog 400 times on major WP articles that are being read thousands of times a day by folks trying to google what all these Hot New Chevy Volts and Nissan Leafs are about. Apparently they're not corporate sponsored WNBA teams, they're cars ;-) The Green tech sector on WP has some serious fanboys who have been blogging with each other since the first Prius plug-in convert happened in a garage. And they want their friends' blogs to stay in-line as references. In place of actual press releases and news media coverage. Times are hard, especially in mortage disaster area California, and working from home (get paid to spam our stuff!) is a tough gig I guess. This post has been edited by cookiehead: Fri 30th July 2010, 3:09am |
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Sat 31st July 2010, 12:17pm
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I'm curious in how many places is a Wikia.com link used as a reliable source (a references citation)? not much http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...get=*.Wikia.com all WP:EL's in articles, otherwise linked in non-article pages. |
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