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| Jon Awbrey |
Sat 7th August 2010, 4:56pm
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![]() τὰ δέ μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 6,745 Joined: Sun 6th Apr 2008, 4:52am From: Meat Puppet Nation Member No.: 5,619 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
Midnight68 is also known as Gauis Marius. Some may remember him from the Spanking Art Wiki. Tyciol has also shown a sudden interest in his works. Hi Tyciol! Wow, Mr. T, I begin to suspect that you're really a G-man — maybe you'd better show us your badge. Oh wait … nevermind … Jon ![]() |
| Ottava |
Sat 7th August 2010, 9:27pm
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![]() Über Pokemon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Contributors Posts: 2,916 Joined: Thu 31st Jul 2008, 6:35pm Member No.: 7,328 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
This is interesting for one reason:
Only three of the images display for me and I have to click on the rest to see the image. That means that there is a part of the Wiki software that can hide inappropriate content. (Note - even if they do "work" for other people, it still provides the ability to click on an image to open a new page, which means that they can protect users not wanting to see it) Weren't the people at Commons et al saying that such a system couldn't be implemented? I'm really upset about that. This post has been edited by Ottava: Sat 7th August 2010, 9:28pm |
| Alison |
Sat 7th August 2010, 10:01pm
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Tiptoety just nuked 'em all!
And I've been asked to retract my 'fap' comment ![]() |
| Killiondude |
Sat 7th August 2010, 10:21pm
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| GlassBeadGame |
Sat 7th August 2010, 10:21pm
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Tiptoety just nuked 'em all! And I've been asked to retract my 'fap' comment ![]() There is a difference between cleaning up the offensive content and covering up the idiocy of the Wikipedian that made the mess in the first place. Good to remove the content but you should let your jab at the morons remain. I'm not sure why he would want it retracted. |
| Alison |
Sat 7th August 2010, 10:27pm
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[...] you should let your jab at the morons remain. I'm not sure why he would want it retracted. Well I'm sorry but that comment is staying! There's now a big "do not edit this archive" banner on the page and besides, I'm not going to censor my words ![]() |
| Cock-up-over-conspiracy |
Sat 7th August 2010, 10:35pm
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![]() Now censored by flckr.com and who else ... ??? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 1,693 Joined: Sat 6th Dec 2008, 6:08am Member No.: 9,267 |
Tiptoety just nuked 'em all! And I've been asked to retract my 'fap' comment ![]() I'd tell them the issue is completely out of your hands and in the hands of those engaging in the habit of uploading. Does that mean spoilsport NuclearWarfare has taken a tip off from WR yet again? Someone should banned his IPs in the name of good sport and getting the Wikimedia Foundation busted. That young man is so "responsible" ... nevermind mentioning that he now has an encyclopediac knowledge of Wikimedia porn thanks to Uncle Jimbo online organ. Imagine what he will have to tell his grandchildren when he becomes old ... "ah, yes, back in the good old days ... why I used to get to delete 100s of ks of online pedophile porn every day on the Wikipedia. Of course, we were not getting paid but I got to look at the stuff good ... and terrible, I tell you, it was. Would not have had it any other way ... oh, only if I had my youth back now!". This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: Sat 7th August 2010, 10:58pm |
| Cock-up-over-conspiracy |
Sat 7th August 2010, 10:57pm
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![]() Now censored by flckr.com and who else ... ??? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 1,693 Joined: Sat 6th Dec 2008, 6:08am Member No.: 9,267 |
Following a couple of links from the ones given above, it appears that all the images are still taken out of animations that include detailed, repeated, pedophile pornographic exposure of female children - and adult/child contact - which could easily be used for grooming, e.g. one child leading another child on to be abused by adult. And pedophiliac incest.
The guy is obsessed with pedophiliac imagery of young girls, "more spanking!!!", with and with underwear and this is what the Wikipedia is wide open to ... in essence acting as advertisers for due to their high presence in Google search engines. He singles being targeted by Wikipedia Review as a badge of honor ... so, it seems he takes psychology gratification from being caught and being discussed. Gallery for gauismarius exclusive "deleted scenes" etc. Forking off the image server to elsewhere removes them from discuss and review from a broader community ... but, tell me, a) why should unpaid volunteers spending them time removing pedophile porn off Jimmy Wales and Sue Gardners's servers!?! Every tech on the net since, oh 1985, can tell you what happens when you leave a directory 777 which is basically what they are doing? QUOTE Gauis Marius: Holds five graduate and post-graduate qualifications from three different universities. Is a published art theorist in his home country. Has travelled extensively throughout the far east teaching English in four different countries. Published comics in Kathmandu during the late 70s (and was never paid). Illustrated several high school textbooks during the mid-eighties. Managed to wrangle his way through seven years of higher education without paying a cent in tuition fees by exploiting loopholes in the system. Appeared mostly nude in several student films (and again was never paid). Underwent psychological evaluation for a gender reassignment programme and was turned down. Was once asked to remove several paintings from a public exhibition due to the controversial nature of his work. Is an ardent supporter of gay, lesbian and transgender rights. Has sold illustrated fiction to various fetish magazines. Is an outspoken critic of corporal discipline IRL, believing that any adult who strikes a child should face criminal charges. Was singled out by Wikipedia Review during the Boy Scout Controversy. Has been described as the "biggest nerd on teh internets" (sic) due to his fanboy-level knowlege of Spanking in comics. Freely admits to the extensive use of reference materials and creative tracing in his artwork - "just like every other great artist in history". This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: Sat 7th August 2010, 11:23pm |
| tarantino |
Sun 8th August 2010, 3:20am
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Midnight68 is also known as Gauis Marius. Some may remember him from the Spanking Art Wiki. Tyciol has also shown a sudden interest in his works. Hi Tyciol! gauismarius (a misspelling of Gaius Marius, an ancient Roman general) posted many pedo "fantasies" to alt.sex.stories.* using the email addresses of gm AT mrdouble.com and gauismarius AT hotmail.com. All of his posts that I've checked so far originate from South Korea. |
| Alison |
Sun 8th August 2010, 3:42am
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gauismarius (a misspelling of Gaius Marius, an ancient Roman general) posted many pedo "fantasies" to alt.sex.stories.* using the email addresses of gm AT mrdouble.com and gauismarius AT hotmail.com. All of his posts that I've checked so far originate from South Korea. South Korea, huh? Funny you should say that ... EDIT: Now blocked by Tiptoety on Commons; CODE 15:04, 7 August 2010 Tiptoety (talk | contribs | block) blocked Midnight68 (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled) (> Activities damaging to the reputation of Wikimedia / Trolling) |
| Cock-up-over-conspiracy |
Sun 8th August 2010, 4:51am
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![]() Now censored by flckr.com and who else ... ??? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 1,693 Joined: Sat 6th Dec 2008, 6:08am Member No.: 9,267 |
gauismarius (a misspelling of Gaius Marius, an ancient Roman general) posted many pedo "fantasies" to alt.sex.stories.* using the email addresses of gm AT mrdouble.com and gauismarius AT hotmail.com. All of his posts that I've checked so far originate from South Korea. Hmmn ... explicit pedophilia and incest. I place my bets on a American working as a teacher in South Korea then (... the Norman Rockwell reference hardly strikes me as a local one). Are the Arbcom, admins and CUs just going to cover Jimbo's ass on this one ... or looking into their records and taking their "compliancy" a bit further to report them? QUOTE Subject: {ASSM} HIDDEN BENEFITS (Mg INC PEDO VOY 3/4) PART THREE The following story depicts explicit sexual contact between adult and under aged participants. Those offended by graphic descriptions of pedophilic/incestuous relationships should read no further. This is entirely a work of fantasy, and does not advocate the abuse of minors in any way, shape or form. All characters and events represented herein are completely fictional. address points to Seoul. |
| Ottava |
Sun 8th August 2010, 11:12am
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![]() Über Pokemon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Contributors Posts: 2,916 Joined: Thu 31st Jul 2008, 6:35pm Member No.: 7,328 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
Anyone notice that the Japanese page equivalen of "Panchira" lacks child cartoon underwear? Because the cartoon stuff the freak obsessed about isn't actually notable and he couldn't fool the real Japanese people into thinking it was.
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| timbo |
Mon 9th August 2010, 7:56pm
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I just put in a report to the FBI etc and wanted the evidence to last long enough for them to look at. I used the webcite address rather than Wikipedian ones. I suspect Webcite will, will have to, or should removed them but not a quickly at the Porno-pedia will. I think a significant body of evidence has to built up to show outsiders what is really going on. To that end, it does not help if either well intended individuals from here or pro-status quo trolls quickly keep removing the stuff we uncover. I appreciate that some are motivated by public decency and responsible adulthood, but others by an irresponsible or cultish defense of the value extolled by the Wikipedia. Well, at least you're clear about the fact that you're a police informer not over matters of child protection, public decency, or a desire to stamp out the scourge of child pornography, but over a desire to bring down Wikipedia by any means, fair or foul. Clarity is good. tim This post has been edited by timbo: Mon 9th August 2010, 8:01pm |
| Cock-up-over-conspiracy |
Mon 9th August 2010, 9:32pm
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Speaking of the connection between manga and anime culture and abuse earlier this year, Adelstein said, "Pedophiles use manga to convince the kids that sexual abuse is a normal way of expressing affection." That is precisely what Midnight68 was doing in his animations. Specifically animating how "fun" it is to have adults pull down infants' underpants and inspect their private parts, to cross dress male children and play spanking games. Did I do something wrong? Well, at least you're clear about the fact that you're a police informer not over matters of child protection, public decency, or a desire to stamp out the scourge of child pornography, but over a desire to bring down Wikipedia by any means, fair or foul. I think you will find that even the most hardened criminals in the world - the most hardened criminals in the world - have a pretty tough line on child sex abusers and child sex pornographers. It is considered to be a very much, and disrespected, lower order of crime. What do you suggest we do turn a blind eye to it? No one wants pedophiles in their neighborhood, Tim ... do you? For the record, it was not the police, it was an FBI run internet watch site IC3 (please others use it): QUOTE The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C), and the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA). Just the other day I was reading Jake Adelstein of the Polaris Project write of a heart warming incident in Japan where a pervert molested a 4-year-old girl in a neighborhood where the yakuza were present. They chopped his arm off and then did the gentlemanly thing of dropping him off at the local hospital afterwards. Sadly, I do not have the back up to do so myself, but I'd buy the guy that did it a drink and shake his hand. There are too many older white creeps in Asia, like this Midnight68 Wikipedian, acting as predators on children. I think pedophilia of any sort should be a capital offence. It is worse than the murder of a child because the child victim is left to live it for life. I do not see what society gains by paying for their keep in prison or maintaining their genetic line. For the record, I am not of the "bring down the Wikipedia" camp. I am of the "reform Wikipedia now or you're fucked" camp. This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: Mon 9th August 2010, 9:54pm |
| timbo |
Tue 10th August 2010, 12:00am
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Well, at least you're clear about the fact that you're a police informer not over matters of child protection, public decency, or a desire to stamp out the scourge of child pornography, but over a desire to bring down Wikipedia by any means, fair or foul. I think you will find that even the most hardened criminals in the world - the most hardened criminals in the world - have a pretty tough line on child sex abusers and child sex pornographers. It is considered to be a very much, and disrespected, lower order of crime. What do you suggest we do turn a blind eye to it? No one wants pedophiles in their neighborhood, Tim ... do you? For the record, it was not the police, it was an FBI run internet watch site IC3 (please others use it): QUOTE The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C), and the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA). Just the other day I was reading Jake Adelstein of the Polaris Project write of a heart warming incident in Japan where a pervert molested a 4-year-old girl in a neighborhood where the yakuza were present. They chopped his arm off and then did the gentlemanly thing of dropping him off at the local hospital afterwards. Sadly, I do not have the back up to do so myself, but I'd buy the guy that did it a drink and shake his hand. There are too many older white creeps in Asia, like this Midnight68 Wikipedian, acting as predators on children. I think pedophilia of any sort should be a capital offence. It is worse than the murder of a child because the child victim is left to live it for life. I do not see what society gains by paying for their keep in prison or maintaining their genetic line. For the record, I am not of the "bring down the Wikipedia" camp. I am of the "reform Wikipedia now or you're fucked" camp. Excuse me, read: ...SECRET police informer... My issue isn't with your pursuing legal action against what you believe to be violations of the law regarding pedophilia, but with your brazen encouragement of people NOT to take down such material so as to "build a case" against Wikipedia. That's pretty pathetic, if you ask me... t |
| Somey |
Tue 10th August 2010, 12:35am
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My issue isn't with your pursuing legal action against what you believe to be violations of the law regarding pedophilia, but with your brazen encouragement of people NOT to take down such material so as to "build a case" against Wikipedia. Where did he do that? The way I read this, he sent the FBI links to webcite.org copies of the relevant Wikipedia pages, under the assumption that the WP pages would be taken down sooner than the webcite.org copies. That hardly constitutes encouragement of WP'ers to not take them down...? I also noticed (in checking Adelstein's blog for myself) that he made note of Japan's recent crackdown on organized crime in general, and child porn specifically - it looks like their laws in this area are now a lot closer to those of the USA, Europe, and other industrialized nations (if not all other nations) than they had been. That's something I hadn't been aware of - and now I'm wondering if the activity we're seeing on Wikimedia Commons may actually be part of a "cornered rat" reaction (by some "lolicon" manga artists) to this crackdown. |
| Cock-up-over-conspiracy |
Tue 10th August 2010, 12:38am
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My issue isn't with your pursuing legal action against what you believe to be violations of the law regarding pedophilia, but with your brazen encouragement of people NOT to take down such material so as to "build a case" against Wikipedia. That's pretty pathetic, if you ask me ... Ah, now you are changing your tune now so as not to be labeled a nonce. Apparently, according to the Wikipedia, nonce is an acronym for "Not Of Normal Criminal Element". A nonce would typically defend a system that is open to abuse, the proliferation of child sex porn and the grooming of children and young people into extreme sexual activities. You see, Timbo, the problem is with the wide open system. Volunteers, let alone teenage admins should not have to waste their time policing this kind of evil and insidious filth day in day out ... especially without support. In any reputable NPO, any such volunteers would at the very least receive training, counseling and be subject to checks and balances. Who knows the longer term effect as yet? One needs to allow the build up of evidence, not hide it all away. That is the way it works. A critical mass has to come about. This is the way the police, IRS, the FBI etc all have to work. You have to wait until the crime is done and you know where the criminal lives. Not keep brushing it under the carpet. The problem is with the Wikipedian system. The system has to change because the people will not. The offenders will just become worse ... more and more skilled at exploiting the Wikipedia. Generation and generation of volunteer is just being sucked in to the Wiki-cult, bled dry on such stupidities, and then spat out ... to be replaced at a later date by a new encultee. That is not "fixing the problem". NuclearWarfare, Tiptoety and others etc are all like enthusiastic young cult members in denial about their cult's and their cult leader's reality. Throwing away their youth for the sake of a few pot bellied, grey haired masturbators (literal and metaphorical). I hope they realises the nature of those structural problems, the futility of maintenance, and sees beyond sustaining the Wiki-cult at some point in his life. |
| EricBarbour |
Tue 10th August 2010, 3:23am
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NuclearWarfare, Tiptoety and others etc are all like enthusiastic young cult members in denial about their cult's and their cult leader's reality. Throwing away their youth for the sake of a few pot bellied, grey haired masturbators (literal and metaphorical). I hope they realises the nature of those structural problems, the futility of maintenance, and sees beyond sustaining the Wiki-cult at some point in his life. I seriously doubt you're going to get thru to "Timbo". He's an AIW member. One of the more demented organizations listed on this page. (Which is itself a horror show of madness.) Guess who else is a dedicated AIW member.......yep, Tyciol! (Apparently the socialist "Timbo" doesn't realize what a rabid capitalist little Jimmy Wales really is. Nor that he's a member of a WP user group that also welcomes one of WP's most notorious pedophiles.) This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Tue 10th August 2010, 3:25am |
| timbo |
Tue 10th August 2010, 6:11am
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(Apparently the socialist "Timbo" doesn't realize what a rabid capitalist little Jimmy Wales really is. Nor that he's a member of a WP user group that also welcomes one of WP's most notorious pedophiles.) Oh, I'm aware of the politics of the Ayn Rand fan... Many of Wikipedia's problems relate to the fact that the institution was set up by a couple of philosophy buffs rather than historians. "Veracity? Truth? What's that?!? All published facts are equal, we must tell all the various truths neutrally..." Hmmmm. Okay. As for pedophiles, they are everywhere. If being an adherent of Wikipedia Inclusionism by associating with the extremely amorphous AIW is invalid due to the presence of a pedophile somewhere on the massive list of members, I shudder to think what you all think about those who willingly associate with the highly structured Catholic church, for instance... Of course, I jest — but not much. It's a fake argument against AIW. t |
| Somey |
Tue 10th August 2010, 6:35am
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It's a fake argument against AIW. Well, here I would have to agree with Mr. Timbo. There are more than enough genuine arguments against AIW (I always think of root beer when I see this acronym) to make this sort of guilt-by-association argument necessary, or even advisable. Besides, from what I can gather, this "Tyciol" person pretty much joins any group he possibly can - in fact, I think that's a large part of his overall strategy, if it can be called that. He'd probably join the "ADW" too, if he thought it might help him pursue his agen-... oops, wait, sure enough, there he is! Then again, as much as I'd like to see Wikipedia disappear altogether, I wouldn't even argue much against "inclusionism" in the first place (and this is also assuming I believed "inclusionism" to be something other than a red herring), if Wikipedia had a sensible opt-out policy... at least for BLP's. |
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