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| karmafist |
Thu 10th August 2006, 5:49pm
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While I don't think it's a good long term strategy, vandalism is a good way to chip away at the credibility of Wikipedia, thus chipping away at the power of the corrupt people who control it.
I did some experiments with another sock, Broad Street, and here's what I found( the contribs are at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...s/Broad_Street) -Make It Fake, and Plausible: Remember Seigenthaler? While that wasn't true, there it wasn't inplausible -- looking at it, you wouldn't say at first glance "this is fake" -Don't use cultural memes: Everything went swimmingly until I started to use the Colbert Elephant Meme. People know that's false, so the plausibility goes out the window. -Make edits slowly: Two days I had three edits, and nobody noticed. The next day I had five, and they caught on. -Don't have edit summaries: They tend to draw attention, but that's not a hard and fast rule. -Press the random button and go for lesser known articles: The reversion will be alot faster at say, George W. Bush, than some count from the 18th Century or some long lost theory. -Remember the IP you're using: They can check that. Best case scenario -- several new Siegenthaler Crises are made, thus destroying the credibility of Wikipedia, and its funding, forcing it to either become a corporate shill or charging users for an account(thus removing any pretense of being a "free and unbiased encyclopedia") or forcing them to reform. Worst case scenario -- the majority of articles on Wikipedia are either protected or abandoned(again, removing the "free" pretense), and all new users are seen as potential suspects, creating an atmosphere where they are unlikely to become wiki-addicts and possibly spread the word of the poor behavior of the Cabalists. |
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Mon 21st August 2006, 8:34pm
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If I'm not mistaken, since posting that sewage-analogy business on the 10th, Mr. Karmafist has had something of a change of heart, agreed to be more "constructive" and so forth on Wikipedia, and has even been unblocked... That isn't to say he's sold out, of course. But maybe he was coming off a bit negatively, even by WR standards, and he decided to give the whole "engagement strategy" thing one more shot.
I often wonder - what would happen to me if I started editing Wikipedia? Probably nothing particularly bad, to be honest, since I'd probably avoid controversial subjects and be a stickler for accuracy and grammatical correctness. (I might even become a "Cite Nazi"... Wouldn't that be fun...) I guess what I'm trying to say is that there's constructive activity on Wikipedia, and destructive activity on Wikipedia, but I'm against both kinds. The best advice I can (and generally do) give people is to just avoid like the plague! Just my $0.02, as they say. |
| karmafist |
Tue 22nd August 2006, 12:47am
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If I'm not mistaken, since posting that sewage-analogy business on the 10th, Mr. Karmafist has had something of a change of heart, agreed to be more "constructive" and so forth on Wikipedia, and has even been unblocked... That isn't to say he's sold out, of course. But maybe he was coming off a bit negatively, even by WR standards, and he decided to give the whole "engagement strategy" thing one more shot. Actually, no. A friend of mine made me make a promise not to vandalize again, and like many active Wikipedians; he's got great potential clouded by this addiction and he looks up to me -- If I betrayed his trust, I don't know what the consequences of that would be in reality(Wikipedia seems to be the center of his life right now), and I couldn't live with that. To me, vandalism is nothing compared to letting this friend of mine down. The first stage in beating addiction is realising you have a problem First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -Gandhi I'll beat the addiction after I finish step 4. |
| LamontStormstar |
Thu 28th September 2006, 1:42pm
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -Gandhi I remember that quote from a Taurin Fox artwork. Anyway, so Karmafist whatever happened with you on Wikipedia? They banned you forever for the whole spreading your manifesto and that's that? |
karmafist Effective Vandalism -- Experimentation Results Thu 10th August 2006, 5:49pm
JohnA I wonder if anyone can tell deliberate vandalism d... Thu 10th August 2006, 7:46pm
karmafist
I wonder if anyone can tell deliberate vandalism ... Thu 10th August 2006, 8:38pm
JohnA
I wonder if anyone can tell deliberate vandalism... Thu 10th August 2006, 9:26pm
EuroSceptic Humm, what would you change on a wikifork? Thu 10th August 2006, 8:51pm
karmafist
Humm, what would you change on a wikifork?
The ... Thu 10th August 2006, 9:42pm
EuroSceptic
Humm, what would you change on a wikifork?
The... Fri 11th August 2006, 12:58am
karmafist
[quote name='karmafist' post='13194' date='Thu 10... Fri 11th August 2006, 2:18am
Daniel Brandt What would I change on a wikifork?
I'd instal... Fri 11th August 2006, 6:10am
JohnA
What would I change on a wikifork?
I'd insta... Fri 11th August 2006, 8:20am
Mr.Treason II
What would I change on a wikifork?
I'd insta... Mon 11th July 2011, 7:27am
everyking When you reach this level, Karmafist, it's evi... Sun 13th August 2006, 11:47am
karmafist
When you reach this level, Karmafist, it's ev... Tue 22nd August 2006, 12:36am
everyking
When you reach this level, Karmafist, it's e... Tue 22nd August 2006, 9:55am
Ben I agree with everyking. Mon 21st August 2006, 6:56pm

LamontStormstar
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, th... Thu 28th September 2006, 1:42pm
victim of censorship
If I'm not mistaken, since posting that sewag... Sat 23rd July 2011, 5:10am
JohnA The first stage in beating addiction is realising ... Mon 21st August 2006, 9:20pm
Somey I don't mean this as a value judgement, but an... Tue 22nd August 2006, 2:28pm
IronDuke I agree with Somey. In my view there are two prob... Tue 22nd August 2006, 5:47pm
karmafist In response to what Everyking said above,
To me... Sat 26th August 2006, 3:54am
Somey If there are no new ones, what about the old ones?... Sat 26th August 2006, 6:51pm
karmafist
If there are no new ones, what about the old ones... Sun 27th August 2006, 8:51am
Somey I'm glad that my friend stepped in, vandalism ... Mon 28th August 2006, 4:13pm
Mr.Treason II
While I don't think it's a good long term... Sun 10th July 2011, 5:11pm
melloden
[quote name='karmafist' post='13184' date='Thu 10... Sun 10th July 2011, 5:30pm
carbuncle
I give you my full support in dealing with Wikipe... Sun 10th July 2011, 6:04pm
Milton Roe
[quote name='karmafist' post='13184' date='Thu 10... Mon 11th July 2011, 3:56am
Herschelkrustofsky T... for II... and II... for T...
No, we can... Sun 10th July 2011, 7:59pm
Alison
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No, we can... Sun 10th July 2011, 9:20pm
The Joy
T... for II... and II... for T...
No, we can... Sun 10th July 2011, 10:13pm
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thekohser
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It's the blimp, Frank
Especially since, no doubt, a lot of cash bets ar... Sat 23rd July 2011, 3:55pm
Zoloft
Especially since, no doubt, a lot of cash bets a... Sun 24th July 2011, 2:50am
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