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Shalom
post Tue 24th August 2010, 5:57pm
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I was looking up the meaning of "Gravida 2, Para 1" on the internet yesterday. Wikipedia's article on Pregnancy came up, and I found the answer there almost immediately.

But to get there, I had to scroll down the first screen and view a NSFW photo of a naked pregnant woman. I was at "W". Fortunately nobody saw it, but I felt uncomfortable.

It's not as if I were searching for information about a sexually explicit subject (the classic example is "autofellatio"). We're talking about a very common, ordinary phenomenon. For crying out loud, Wikipedian nerds, can you have the decency to show a pregnant woman with her clothes on?
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post Tue 24th August 2010, 8:15pm
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It's not that the picture is inappropriate, it's just gratuitous. Images should strike the right balance between informative value and cultural acceptability. If you decrease the acceptability of the presentation, you effectively decrease the informative value because you deter some people from reading the article. If an image is shocking, or just even causes you to raise an eyebrow, it probably shouldn't be prominently featured.
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post Tue 24th August 2010, 9:41pm
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QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 24th August 2010, 9:15pm) *

If an image is shocking, or just even causes you to raise an eyebrow, it probably shouldn't be prominently featured.


All in the eye of the beholder.
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post Tue 24th August 2010, 11:11pm
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QUOTE(Theanima @ Tue 24th August 2010, 9:41pm) *

QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 24th August 2010, 9:15pm) *

If an image is shocking, or just even causes you to raise an eyebrow, it probably shouldn't be prominently featured.


All in the eye of the beholder.


So is NPOV, RS and other matters. All in the beholder. If you can choose to exercise those policies -- because you expect your "beholders" to demand them -- then so you can for other policies these "beholders" may desire.


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post Wed 25th August 2010, 12:40am
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This discussion is going off track. At home, when I'm alone, the image of the nude pregnant woman side-on, from the waist up, is not offensive. (My Jewish tradition states that viewing such images for pleasure is forbidden, but this is one of the few areas where I do not practice strict adherence to the written laws.)

There's a flip-side to "Wikipedia is not censored". That is: Wikipedia reaches a very wide audience. The page view statistics for the Pregnancy article show 7,000 pageviews every day, or about 5 pageviews per minute. More than two million people will see that image it stays on the site. Among that mass of humanity, there will be some people who feel not mildly uncomfortable, but really upset - and most of them won't say anything about it on the talk page. This is the kind of decision that the readership won't make. The writers on Wikipedia, and I no longer number among them, must consider what will least offend in the most-viewed pages. On less-viewed pages (another classic example: goatse.cx) a more liberal approach may be reasonable, on the grounds of "what did you expect to see?" Even there, Kelly Martin once advised that pressing the "Random article" button might be hazardous because you might land on a NSFW page.

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Shalom   Pregnancy   Tue 24th August 2010, 5:57pm
A Horse With No Name   For crying out loud, Wikipedian nerds, can you hav...   Tue 24th August 2010, 6:00pm
dogbiscuit   I was looking up the meaning of "Gravida 2, ...   Tue 24th August 2010, 6:05pm
Shalom   [quote name='Shalom' post='249393' date='Tue 24th...   Tue 24th August 2010, 6:47pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Shalom' post='249393' date='Tue 24t...   Tue 24th August 2010, 6:55pm
A Horse With No Name   Look, I'm not saying that a picture of a nake...   Tue 24th August 2010, 7:00pm
CharlotteWebb   But to get there, I had to scroll down the first ...   Tue 24th August 2010, 6:55pm
Theanima   How exactly would cartoon drawings make any differ...   Tue 24th August 2010, 6:59pm
Milton Roe   And besides, I'm tired of all these people wh...   Tue 24th August 2010, 7:17pm
carbuncle   That's odd, I would have thought that this ima...   Tue 24th August 2010, 8:02pm
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Milton Roe   [quote name='carbuncle' post='249418' date='Tue 2...   Tue 24th August 2010, 8:46pm
carbuncle   It's not that the picture is inappropriate, i...   Tue 24th August 2010, 8:50pm
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