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post Thu 26th August 2010, 7:23pm
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Palestinians to face 'Wikipedia War'
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BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- The next regional war will be a media war, head of the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate Abdul Nasser An-Najar said Thursday. ...

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post Thu 26th August 2010, 10:57pm
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So what's the spread betting on the number of new I/P editors to be placed under editing restrictions before the end of the year? And how many will really be old friends returning?
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post Fri 27th August 2010, 12:09am
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QUOTE(SelfHater @ Thu 26th August 2010, 6:57pm) *

So what's the spread betting on the number of new I/P editors to be placed under editing restrictions before the end of the year? And how many will really be old friends returning?

Tough call, since it seems Jimbo thinks it's not a problem.

When he jumps in, it's kinda like throwing a rodeo clown on a dirt bike onto the Kentucky Derby track.
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post Fri 27th August 2010, 12:17am
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Fri 27th August 2010, 12:09am) *

QUOTE(SelfHater @ Thu 26th August 2010, 6:57pm) *

So what's the spread betting on the number of new I/P editors to be placed under editing restrictions before the end of the year? And how many will really be old friends returning?

Tough call, since it seems Jimbo thinks it's not a problem.

When he jumps in, it's kinda like throwing a rodeo clown on a dirt bike onto the Kentucky Derby track.

In the I/P area Jimbo lost every bit of cred (if he ever had any) years ago....when he appointed Jayjg to arb.com...even if there were others who had more votes than Jayjg.

Someone should ask Jimbo if he doesn´t want to appoint Jayjg (now topic-banned from the I/P area and stripped of his CU-powers) ..to arb.com again! laugh.gif evilgrin.gif
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post Fri 27th August 2010, 12:25am
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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Fri 27th August 2010, 12:17am) *

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Fri 27th August 2010, 12:09am) *

QUOTE(SelfHater @ Thu 26th August 2010, 6:57pm) *

So what's the spread betting on the number of new I/P editors to be placed under editing restrictions before the end of the year? And how many will really be old friends returning?

Tough call, since it seems Jimbo thinks it's not a problem.

When he jumps in, it's kinda like throwing a rodeo clown on a dirt bike onto the Kentucky Derby track.

In the I/P area Jimbo lost every bit of cred (if he ever had any) years ago....when he appointed Jayjg to arb.com...even if there were others who had more votes than Jayjg.

Someone should ask Jimbo if he doesn´t want to appoint Jayjg (now topi-banned from the I/P area and stripped of his CU-powers) ..to arb.com again! laugh.gif evilgrin.gif


As far as I know Jayjg's topic ban is expired, but he does not seem to have returned to editing I/P articles. But I wish you would stop whining about Jayjg, because I saw him outvoted by the 'P' team many times in I/P editing disputes.
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QUOTE(Kwork @ Fri 27th August 2010, 12:25am) *

As far as I know Jayjg's topic ban is expired, but he does not seem to have returned to editing I/P articles. But I wish you would stop whining about Jayjg, because I saw him outvoted by the 'P' team many times in I/P editing disputes.

Hmm, I thought it was idef.

But Kwork, I agree: Jayjg is not the topic here. The topic it Jimbos judgement when it comes to the I/P-area; which has been, shall we say, less than stellar.
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post Fri 27th August 2010, 12:56am
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As far as I know Jayjg's topic ban is expired, but he does not seem to have returned to editing I/P articles. But I wish you would stop whining about Jayjg, because I saw him outvoted by the 'P' team many times in I/P editing disputes.

Hmm, I thought it was idef.

But Kwork, I agree: Jayjg is not the topic here. The topic it Jimbos judgement when it comes to the I/P-area; which has been, shall we say, less than stellar.


There were a host of editors (from both teams) topic banned in the arbcom decision. I think they had the right to request their ban be lifted after six months, but that is just my memory and I could be wrong. I was not a party in the case and had not edited any of the articles involve in that.

Jayjg got singled out for tough treatment, and had some of his administrative powers removed - such as checkuser - even though there was nothing to show he had ever misused that....in contrast to Lar.
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post Fri 27th August 2010, 11:11pm
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QUOTE(Kwork @ Fri 27th August 2010, 1:56am) *

QUOTE(The Adversary @ Fri 27th August 2010, 12:30am) *

QUOTE(Kwork @ Fri 27th August 2010, 12:25am) *

As far as I know Jayjg's topic ban is expired, but he does not seem to have returned to editing I/P articles. But I wish you would stop whining about Jayjg, because I saw him outvoted by the 'P' team many times in I/P editing disputes.

Hmm, I thought it was idef.

But Kwork, I agree: Jayjg is not the topic here. The topic it Jimbos judgement when it comes to the I/P-area; which has been, shall we say, less than stellar.


There were a host of editors (from both teams) topic banned in the arbcom decision. I think they had the right to request their ban be lifted after six months, but that is just my memory and I could be wrong. I was not a party in the case and had not edited any of the articles involve in that.

Jayjg got singled out for tough treatment, and had some of his administrative powers removed - such as checkuser - even though there was nothing to show he had ever misused that....in contrast to Lar.


In the end it worked out as five editors on the P side and 2 on the I being banned. This is because two of the banned editors were the same person who has continue to edit under further sock ids. I don't know why people have it in for JayJG, I've found that I can work with him on other matters. He understands that I am as happy to work against anti-Semites as against the right wing of Zionism and we have cooperated in those areas. We understand where we disagree and where we agree and don't take arguments with each other out of the I/P area. And there are other Z editors besides J with whom I have clashed on I/P matters who also understand and have the intellectual honesty to be able to know that I am both critical of Zionism and opposed to anti-Semites. However there are at least two people who have made posts today on Wikipedia Review sayign that I am anti-Semitic. One of them is a bit slow and may not have grasped the complexities of the matter, the other is most certainly being intellectually dishonest.
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post Fri 27th August 2010, 11:57pm
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QUOTE(SelfHater @ Fri 27th August 2010, 11:11pm) *

QUOTE(Kwork @ Fri 27th August 2010, 1:56am) *

QUOTE(The Adversary @ Fri 27th August 2010, 12:30am) *

QUOTE(Kwork @ Fri 27th August 2010, 12:25am) *

As far as I know Jayjg's topic ban is expired, but he does not seem to have returned to editing I/P articles. But I wish you would stop whining about Jayjg, because I saw him outvoted by the 'P' team many times in I/P editing disputes.

Hmm, I thought it was idef.

But Kwork, I agree: Jayjg is not the topic here. The topic it Jimbos judgement when it comes to the I/P-area; which has been, shall we say, less than stellar.


There were a host of editors (from both teams) topic banned in the arbcom decision. I think they had the right to request their ban be lifted after six months, but that is just my memory and I could be wrong. I was not a party in the case and had not edited any of the articles involve in that.

Jayjg got singled out for tough treatment, and had some of his administrative powers removed - such as checkuser - even though there was nothing to show he had ever misused that....in contrast to Lar.


In the end it worked out as five editors on the P side and 2 on the I being banned. This is because two of the banned editors were the same person who has continue to edit under further sock ids. I don't know why people have it in for JayJG, I've found that I can work with him on other matters. He understands that I am as happy to work against anti-Semites as against the right wing of Zionism and we have cooperated in those areas. We understand where we disagree and where we agree and don't take arguments with each other out of the I/P area. And there are other Z editors besides J with whom I have clashed on I/P matters who also understand and have the intellectual honesty to be able to know that I am both critical of Zionism and opposed to anti-Semites. However there are at least two people who have made posts today on Wikipedia Review sayign that I am anti-Semitic. One of them is a bit slow and may not have grasped the complexities of the matter, the other is most certainly being intellectually dishonest.


What a load of crap.

1.If Jayjg finds it convent to hold his nose and work with you that's his business. I suppose he has to make do with what's around.

2.The right wing Zionist group that you have been complaining so much about, Kach, is banned in Israel, and classified as a terrorist group everywhere. Complain about them all you want, but they are out of the loop.

3. In my view you would not recognize "intellectual honesty" if it was served to you with watercress around it.

4.The "slow" list member you are referring to must be me. I am a simple uneducated worker who never went to college, and almost did not graduate from high school. I admit to being a member of the working class on my only still existing user page http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Malcolm_Schosha

Personally I try to make it a practice not make critical comments about things that are not a matter of choice. Criticism is, in my view, only justified in matters where there is choice. If, for instance, someone is intelligent or slow, attractive or ugly, Chinese, Italian or Indian, healthy or sickly, etc are matters that are outside the area of choice. On the other hand, if someone is kind or mean, tolerant or bigoted, patient or irascible, those are matters of choice; and a critical analysis of those matters is justified. I think that blame or derision toward things that do not involve choice (intelligence, ethnicity, etc) is vicious.
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Newsfeed   Palestinians to face 'Wikipedia War' - Ma'an News Agency   Thu 26th August 2010, 7:23pm
Malik Shabazz   Great. Just what we need, another group of traine...   Thu 26th August 2010, 7:52pm
Somey   Great. Just what we need, another group of trained...   Thu 26th August 2010, 8:37pm
TungstenCarbide   Great. Just what we need, another group of traine...   Thu 26th August 2010, 9:03pm
SB_Johnny   Great. Just what we need, another group of traine...   Thu 26th August 2010, 9:09pm
CharlotteWebb   [quote name='Malik Shabazz' post='249768' date='T...   Thu 26th August 2010, 10:28pm
GlassBeadGame   This shows the fail of "anybody can edit....   Fri 27th August 2010, 12:30am
nableezy   Great. Just what we need, another group of train...   Thu 26th August 2010, 8:48pm
Somey   Except I doubt the PNA has the competence to offer...   Thu 26th August 2010, 8:54pm
nableezy   (Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. ...   Thu 26th August 2010, 9:25pm
Malik Shabazz   Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. Sh...   Thu 26th August 2010, 9:41pm
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Kwork   Except I doubt the PNA has the competence to offe...   Thu 26th August 2010, 11:40pm
nableezy   [quote name='Somey' post='249778' date='Thu 26th ...   Thu 26th August 2010, 11:50pm
Kwork   [quote name='Somey' post='249778' date='Thu 26th...   Fri 27th August 2010, 12:02am
Wikifan   [quote name='nableezy' post='249807' date='Thu 26...   Sun 29th August 2010, 1:19am
Kwork   Great. Just what we need, another group of train...   Thu 26th August 2010, 11:03pm
Anonymous editor   Great. Just what we need, another group of trai...   Fri 27th August 2010, 12:20am
GlassBeadGame   Great. Just what we need, another group of train...   Thu 26th August 2010, 8:52pm
Anonymous editor   lol at the idea of the PA supporting the effort of...   Thu 26th August 2010, 9:13pm
Kwork   <img alt="" height="1" wid...   Thu 26th August 2010, 10:46pm
Kwork   As far as I know Jayjg's topic ban is expire...   Fri 27th August 2010, 12:56am
The Adversary   There were a host of editors (from both teams) to...   Fri 27th August 2010, 1:47am
EricBarbour   Sigh. Try again: Jayjg is not the topic here. Nor ...   Fri 27th August 2010, 8:37am
SelfHater   2.The right wing Zionist group that you have been...   Sat 28th August 2010, 1:59am
Milton Roe   Personally I try to make it a practice not make c...   Sat 28th August 2010, 2:51am
Kwork   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='249811' date='Fri 2...   Fri 27th August 2010, 2:42pm
SelfHater   So what's the spread betting on the number o...   Fri 27th August 2010, 11:47am
The Adversary   Sigh. What a waste of time. But inevitable, I gue...   Fri 27th August 2010, 12:10am
Kwork   Sigh. What a waste of time. But inevitable, I gu...   Fri 27th August 2010, 10:54am
Anonymous editor   Sigh. What a waste of time. But inevitable, I g...   Fri 27th August 2010, 1:57pm
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