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| The Adversary |
Fri 27th August 2010, 12:10am
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Sigh. What a waste of time. But inevitable, I guess. I tend to agree more and more with Kelly Martins´observation that "the encylopedia anyone can edit" is a great way to start an encyclopedia...and a lousy way to finish one. But as long as we have basically "mob-rule" on wp, ie wrt sources ( yes, we do!) ..this sort of thing is bound to happen. When the "community" (with arb.com) always chooses the easy way out ("it is a content-dispute: work it out!")...it leaves an open invitation to mobs and socks. We should, ideally, have some basic rules which would have forbidden mobs to push fringe views. Eg. The Haeretz/Guardian articles mentioned an example of saying that places in the occupied territories are "in Israel", a view held by no international institution, or for that matter; any other state. But with 50 newly "educated" religious right-wing Israelis: guess what wp will "reflect". And the PA trying to push the opposite view? I think it is a "luxury project" that will get absolutely nowhere. But this article will serve as a wonderful, wonderful justification for the Yesha Council etc...... their own recruiting. "Preemptive strike", anyone?
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| Kwork |
Fri 27th August 2010, 10:54am
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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Fri 27th August 2010, 12:10am)  Sigh. What a waste of time. But inevitable, I guess. I tend to agree more and more with Kelly Martins´observation that "the encylopedia anyone can edit" is a great way to start an encyclopedia...and a lousy way to finish one. But as long as we have basically "mob-rule" on wp, ie wrt sources ( yes, we do!) ..this sort of thing is bound to happen. When the "community" (with arb.com) always chooses the easy way out ("it is a content-dispute: work it out!")...it leaves an open invitation to mobs and socks. We should, ideally, have some basic rules which would have forbidden mobs to push fringe views. Eg. The Haeretz/Guardian articles mentioned an example of saying that places in the occupied territories are "in Israel", a view held by no international institution, or for that matter; any other state. But with 50 newly "educated" religious right-wing Israelis: guess what wp will "reflect". And the PA trying to push the opposite view? I think it is a "luxury project" that will get absolutely nowhere. But this article will serve as a wonderful, wonderful justification for the Yesha Council etc...... their own recruiting. "Preemptive strike", anyone?  That interesting. First you complain about "mob rule" on Wikipedia. Then you complain that an article's content (you do not say what article) has "a view held by no international institution"....as though international politics is something other than mob rule. As far as I know article content is supposed to be based on sources that are WP:V, not mob rule. Your argument is an advocacy, ie rooting for the 'P' team. The problem with this approach always remains the same. How could it change when every WP editor (and WR member) thinks that their point of view on I/P problems is the completely right point of view, and that their team deserves to win the game. It is the zero-sum game approach to editing that thinks: my win is your loss. By the way it seems that my education in wiki-speak is not complete. What is "wrt"?
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Newsfeed Palestinians to face 'Wikipedia War' - Ma'an News Agency Thu 26th August 2010, 7:23pm Malik Shabazz
Great. Just what we need, another group of traine... Thu 26th August 2010, 7:52pm Somey Great. Just what we need, another group of trained... Thu 26th August 2010, 8:37pm  TungstenCarbide
Great. Just what we need, another group of traine... Thu 26th August 2010, 9:03pm  SB_Johnny
Great. Just what we need, another group of traine... Thu 26th August 2010, 9:09pm  CharlotteWebb
[quote name='Malik Shabazz' post='249768' date='T... Thu 26th August 2010, 10:28pm   GlassBeadGame
This shows the fail of "anybody can edit.... Fri 27th August 2010, 12:30am nableezy
Great. Just what we need, another group of train... Thu 26th August 2010, 8:48pm  Somey Except I doubt the PNA has the competence to offer... Thu 26th August 2010, 8:54pm   nableezy
(Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. ... Thu 26th August 2010, 9:25pm   Malik Shabazz Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. Sh... Thu 26th August 2010, 9:41pm    Somey What makes you say that? Nableezy and I get along ... Thu 26th August 2010, 10:05pm   Kwork
Except I doubt the PNA has the competence to offe... Thu 26th August 2010, 11:40pm    nableezy
[quote name='Somey' post='249778' date='Thu 26th ... Thu 26th August 2010, 11:50pm     Kwork
[quote name='Somey' post='249778' date='Thu 26th... Fri 27th August 2010, 12:02am      Wikifan
[quote name='nableezy' post='249807' date='Thu 26... Sun 29th August 2010, 1:19am Kwork
Great. Just what we need, another group of train... Thu 26th August 2010, 11:03pm  Anonymous editor
Great. Just what we need, another group of trai... Fri 27th August 2010, 12:20am GlassBeadGame
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[quote name='SB_Johnny' post='249811' date='Fri 2... Fri 27th August 2010, 12:25am    The Adversary
As far as I know Jayjg's topic ban is expired... Fri 27th August 2010, 12:30am     Kwork
As far as I know Jayjg's topic ban is expire... Fri 27th August 2010, 12:56am      The Adversary
There were a host of editors (from both teams) to... Fri 27th August 2010, 1:47am       EricBarbour Sigh. Try again: Jayjg is not the topic here. Nor ... Fri 27th August 2010, 8:37am      SelfHater
[quote name='The Adversary' post='249820' date='F... Fri 27th August 2010, 11:11pm       Kwork
[quote name='Kwork' post='249826' date='Fri 27th ... Fri 27th August 2010, 11:57pm        SelfHater
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Personally I try to make it a practice not make c... Sat 28th August 2010, 2:51am   Kwork
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So what's the spread betting on the number o... Fri 27th August 2010, 11:47am  Anonymous editor
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if you want to know why... Sun 29th August 2010, 10:07pm Cock-up-over-conspiracy
common knowledge, moulton
Difficult one ... yes, ... Mon 30th August 2010, 12:29am  Wikifan
common knowledge, moulton
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The Palestinians will always win the propaganda w... Mon 13th September 2010, 6:29am   Malik Shabazz
Generally, Wikipedia has far more pro-Palestinian... Mon 13th September 2010, 6:11pm    nableezy
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There are nearly no Palestinian editors that acti... Tue 14th September 2010, 12:25am      The Joy
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[quote name='nableezy' post='252278' date='Mon 1... Wed 15th September 2010, 12:20am     Wikifan
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[quote name='Wikifan' post='252310' date='Mon 13t... Tue 14th September 2010, 10:52pm        Eppur si muove
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