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| the fieryangel |
 Tue 28th September 2010, 10:25am
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Jimbo quoted here :
QUOTE "The issue that I have with WikiLeaks is they have a tendency to just want to publish absolutely everything, and I think that can be very, very dangerous," Wales told a business conference in Malaysia's largest city, Kuala Lumpur. "I don't think (WikiLeaks founder) Julian Assange wants those people killed. However, if he irresponsibly follows the policy of releasing absolutely everything, it is incredibly dangerous for those people. Can you say BLP, Jimbo? Also, Jimbo denies any connection to Wikileaks and thinks that it is "unfortunate" that they use the terms "wiki" : QUOTE "I have absolutely nothing to do with WikiLeaks and I don't even approve of what they are doing," he said. "I would distance myself from WikiLeaks. I wish they wouldn't use the name. They are not a wiki." |
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| Cock-up-over-conspiracy |
Tue 28th September 2010, 12:34pm
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Yah. Let me cry bullshit too.
But, let's face it, it was the "World Capital Markets Symposium" so he was playing the establishment card because, let's face it, the establishment pays better than Free Kultur Freaks when it comes to conference gigs. Funny how for the World Capital Markets Symposium, Jimmy Wales is the Founder but for ABC News, he is the co-founder QUOTE “Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge...To create and distribute a free encyclopedia of the highest possible quality to every single person on the planet in their own language-That’s who I am. That’s what I am doing. That’s my life goal.” -Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia. As part of his work at his for-profit company, Wikia, Inc., Mr. Wales is developing a human-powered search engine, Search Wikia, which will be based on the same open, transparent, community-driven principles of Wikia and Wikipedia.t to double in the next five to 10 years (with the majority of new users arising from developing nations), Mr. Wales asserts that internet will combat stereotypes, censorship, media control, and monopolies while simultaneously allowing citizens of developing nations to have a more prominent voice. Yes, Jummy, that and the 1,000 white penises. |
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| the fieryangel |
Tue 28th September 2010, 2:10pm
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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Tue 28th September 2010, 12:34pm)  Yah. Let me cry bullshit too. <snip> Yes, Jummy, that and the 1,000 white penises. Yeah, and they still haven't found any black/asian/indian/etc ones yet...And you'd think that they'd know where to look by now! I guess this means that Wikipedia contributors are more interested in showing off their own peens rather than educating that little girl in Africa... Meanwhile, over in the press section, we get articles like "Wikipedia Man Slamdunks Wikileaks"... Haven't we been through this before? How come nobody else has caught on? |
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| thekohser |
Tue 28th September 2010, 3:06pm
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Let's face it, Jimbo's media star has been fading. So, he's just picking on a minor scandal-du-jour to get some more press coverage. As if any real business with shareholders and payroll to meet actually CARES what Jimbo thinks of WikiLeaks. It's just a concern of such small scale and triviality -- "they're not even a wiki, boo hoo" -- that it's a wonder why "the press" picks up on this.
(Actually, I see that this isn't really "the press". It's just the global news-feed republishing circuit, regurgitating the same Agence France-Presse story.)  |
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| GlassBeadGame |
Tue 28th September 2010, 4:25pm
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Wikileaks has demonstrated more responsibility than Wikipedia ever has. WL does not permit immediate posting of content but requires that everything it publishes is first reviewed. It pre-released the "war dump" to major media outlets, providing a chance to verify and assess before the material was made public. It delayed publication of 15,000 of the most sensitive documents for additional vetting. It was only after Mr.Wales' Free Kulture pals lavished hero worship upon Assange that he went off the deep end with his cyrpto-anarchist nonsense and refused to engage the Obama administration in dialog concerning the material. Maybe Mr. Wales' hypocritical rant will cause a split with the Free Kulture extremists and they will think twice before carrying his water the next time he gets into trouble over his massive online porn collection or he loots another museum.
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| thekohser |
Tue 28th September 2010, 6:28pm
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There's a Wikipedia essay about this confusing problem. Why can't the media read that?
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| Jon Awbrey |
Tue 28th September 2010, 6:32pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 28th September 2010, 2:28pm) Media no read. Media jes rote. Jon  |
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| thekohser |
Tue 28th September 2010, 7:38pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 28th September 2010, 2:28pm) I wonder if there's a brave soul here who would post that link on Jimbo's Talk page, and ask him his opinion of the essay and how he might improve it or make it more accurate. |
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| victim of censorship |
Tue 28th September 2010, 10:40pm
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Tue 28th September 2010, 9:10am) QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Tue 28th September 2010, 12:34pm) Yah. Let me cry bullshit too. <snip> Yes, Jummy, that and the 1,000 white penises. Yeah, and they still haven't found any black/asian/indian/etc ones yet...And you'd think that they'd know where to look by now! I guess this means that Wikipedia contributors are more interested in showing off their own peens rather than educating that little girl in Africa... Meanwhile, over in the press section, we get articles like "Wikipedia Man Slamdunks Wikileaks"... Haven't we been through this before? How come nobody else has caught on? In Chicago it's called..."Walking the Walk, rather then talking the talk" This guys (Jimmy and company) believe themselves to be above national governments, immune to the consequences of their words and actions. I have no respect for Jimmy and his Grape JUICE nut jobs. |
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| SB_Johnny |
Tue 28th September 2010, 11:58pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 28th September 2010, 3:38pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 28th September 2010, 2:28pm) I wonder if there's a brave soul here who would post that link on Jimbo's Talk page, and ask him his opinion of the essay and how he might improve it or make it more accurate. Wasn't me, but looks like someone's reading along.  |
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| dogbiscuit |
Wed 29th September 2010, 12:59am
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 Could you run through Verifiability not Truth once more? Group: Members Posts: 2,972 Joined: Tue 4th Dec 2007, 12:42am From: The Midlands Member No.: 4,015 |
...but then Jimbo is reported as complaining about Malaysia's censorship.
I wish he'd get his stories straight. He has nothing to do with WikiLeaks though Wikipedia owns WikiLeaks domains, and he disapproves of censorship but seems to have no problems with the various websites within his purview suppressing critical comment on a regular basis. |
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| Jon Awbrey |
Wed 29th September 2010, 1:42am
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τὰ δέ μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε Group: Moderators Posts: 6,739 Joined: Sun 6th Apr 2008, 4:52am From: Meat Puppet Nation Member No.: 5,619 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Tue 28th September 2010, 8:59pm) but then Jimbo is reported as complaining about Malaysia's censorship. I wish he'd get his stories straight. He has nothing to do with WikiLeaks though Wikipedia owns WikiLeaks domains, and he disapproves of censorship but seems to have no problems with the various websites within his purview suppressing critical comment on a regular basis. Squirrel !!! |
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| EricBarbour |
Wed 29th September 2010, 1:44am
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QUOTE There is an off-wiki discussion thread with a fair amount of useful research (along with the usual level of gratuitous and off-topic wisecracks) here: "Jimmy Wales: people think I'm responsible for Wikileaks" at Wikipedia Review. —Montana Mouse 12:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC) BAN HIM!!!! BAN HIM!!!!!!!!!!! This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Wed 29th September 2010, 1:45am |
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| Milton Roe |
Wed 29th September 2010, 1:53am
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 28th September 2010, 6:44pm) QUOTE There is an off-wiki discussion thread with a fair amount of useful research (along with the usual level of gratuitous and off-topic wisecracks) here: "Jimmy Wales: people think I'm responsible for Wikileaks" at Wikipedia Review. —Montana Mouse 12:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC) BAN HIM!!!! BAN HIM!!!!!!!!!!! "... along with the usual level of gratuitous and off-topic wise-cracks"?? How rude. |
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| thekohser |
Wed 29th September 2010, 3:58am
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Tue 28th September 2010, 8:59pm) ...but then Jimbo is reported as complaining about Malaysia's censorship. I wish he'd get his stories straight. He has nothing to do with WikiLeaks though Wikipedia owns WikiLeaks domains, and he disapproves of censorship but seems to have no problems with the various websites within his purview suppressing critical comment on a regular basis. You mean "Wikia" owns WikiLeaks domains. Don't worry. Common mistake, as many have difficulty discerning the two entities. |
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| Cock-up-over-conspiracy |
Wed 29th September 2010, 5:20am
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Wed 29th September 2010, 12:59am) He has nothing to do with WikiLeaks though Wikipedia owns WikiLeaks domains, and he disapproves of censorship but seems to have no problems with the various websites within his purview suppressing critical comment on a regular basis. It is a safe 'technical lie'. 'HE' has nothing to do with Wikileaks even if Wikipedia/Wikimedia does because HE is not Wikipedia, except which it suits him and he gets paid lots to speak about it. He said, QUOTE(Jimmy Wales @ Wed 29th September 2010, 12:59am) "I want to write that information (on sites like user-generated Wikipedia) so that my fellow citizens have the knowledge they need so they can't be oppressed." He meant, QUOTE I want to write that information (on sites like user-generated Wikipedia) so that my fellow citizens have the knowledge my admins will allow, so they can't be oppressed except my admins." There are in two entirely different leagues. Wikileaks is playing with the big boys in the first division where people die and go missing, where lives are saved and international policies are created to stop people being exploited. This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: Wed 29th September 2010, 8:47am |
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| the fieryangel |
Wed 29th September 2010, 12:45pm
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Jimbo's reply about the Wikileaks essay :
QUOTE ::The essay is fine but incorrect. Wikia does not own those domains.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Wales#top|talk]]) 12:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC) Hmm, that's odd.... |
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| Emperor |
Wed 29th September 2010, 1:24pm
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 29th September 2010, 8:45am) Jimbo's reply about the Wikileaks essay : QUOTE ::The essay is fine but incorrect. Wikia does not own those domains.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Wales#top|talk]]) 12:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC) Hmm, that's odd.... He could be telling the truth. Domain stuff tends to lag. |
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| thekohser |
Wed 29th September 2010, 1:27pm
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 29th September 2010, 8:45am) Jimbo's reply about the Wikileaks essay : QUOTE ::The essay is fine but incorrect. Wikia does not own those domains.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Wales#top|talk]]) 12:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC) Hmm, that's odd.... Is he doing a Jedi mind trick, or is he misinformed, or is there some kind of legal mumbo-jumbo in the background that while Wikia, Inc. holds the reservation, they are contractually "owned" by some third party. Or, does he view "Michael Davis" as the owner, but not wearing his Wikia, Inc. hat? In any respect, his dismissive answer without providing some form of explanatory proof is just sloppy and rude. Typical Jimbo. May I call on someone to please post these links to Jimbo's talk page, asking him to explain them in light of his answer? http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/wikileaks.net http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/wikileaks.com http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/wikileaks.us |
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| dogbiscuit |
Wed 29th September 2010, 1:28pm
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QUOTE(Emperor @ Wed 29th September 2010, 2:24pm) QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 29th September 2010, 8:45am) Jimbo's reply about the Wikileaks essay : QUOTE ::The essay is fine but incorrect. Wikia does not own those domains.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Wales#top|talk]]) 12:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC) Hmm, that's odd.... He could be telling the truth. Domain stuff tends to lag. In other words, you are suggesting that he is being economical with the truth and he is saying "I, or Wikia, no longer own those domains." |
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