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| thekohser |
Tue 19th October 2010, 7:34pm
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This seems very, very, very, very, very fishy to me. How does a non-profit 501-c-3 that files a Form 990 intend to keep secret, forever, a severance package for one of the top paid employees of the organization? What rotten thing is going on here? ( Original and official announcement is here.) This post has been edited by thekohser: Tue 19th October 2010, 7:53pm
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| Minor4th |
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QUOTE(Text @ Sun 24th October 2010, 1:33pm)  QUOTE Hmmmmm.... Do you disagree on something that has been said, or are you skeptic of the fact that F bemolle is equivalent to E? Well, I don't have my glasses on so I'm not sure what your post says but I do see that there is a question mark at the end. I am just reading over the thread again. It's a strange way to fire someone, and there's no question that's what it is. It's hard to put a severance package together in 3 days. My initial thought is that Sue really wants him gone immediately but the Foundation needs Godwin to turn over all of his messes to the new guy so the Foundation's 12MM bank account isnt up for grabs. Sounds to me like they 're paying him to be a consultant, and I bet they're paying him a nice amount because he's probabably pissed enough to walk off and let them drown in their own feces. Maybe a non-disclosure agreement about the circumstances of the termination -- everything else would pretty much be covered by the attorney-client privilege, and he can't disclose it anyway unless it's some sort of whistleblower scenario. I'm interested to see how this one turns out. I was intrigued by the way Godwin handled the FBI seal inquiry and thought it was incredibly foolish and risky to taunt the Feds with a letter that read like an ANI argument. I mean, doesnt everyone know the Feds are vindictive and they'll find a reason to make life miserable if you get their attention? I don't know if that has anything to do with this termination, but reading between the lines, the comment about Godwin doing what he thought was in WMF's best interest (read, Godwin's judgment sucks) -- that could apply to the way he handled the FBI sitch. There are probably others if that is the way Godwin goes about practicing law..
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QUOTE(Minor4th @ Sun 24th October 2010, 3:09pm)  I was intrigued by the way Godwin handled the FBI seal inquiry and thought it was incredibly foolish and risky to taunt the Feds with a letter that read like an ANI argument. I mean, doesnt everyone know the Feds are vindictive and they'll find a reason to make life miserable if you get their attention? I don't know if that has anything to do with this termination, but reading between the lines, the comment about Godwin doing what he thought was in WMF's best interest (read, Godwin's judgment sucks) -- that could apply to the way he handled the FBI sitch. There are probably others if that is the way Godwin goes about practicing law..
Indeed. When a lawyer starts sounding like a wikilawyer in "#real_life" situations, he should probably stay away from the bar and/or any keyboard that's connected to a modem. I hope our resident lawyers won't be tempted to say yes to an inside hire, because that way lies a dead end.
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thekohser Out with Godwin Tue 19th October 2010, 7:34pm thekohser Would being hauled off in an FBI investigation ove... Tue 19th October 2010, 7:45pm Milton Roe
This seems very, very, very, very, very fishy to ... Tue 19th October 2010, 7:53pm Cock-up-over-conspiracy I would imagine he knows too much. They don't ... Tue 19th October 2010, 11:57pm  Milton Roe
I would imagine he knows too much. They don't... Wed 20th October 2010, 12:29am thekohser Someone pointed out to me the very peculiar charac... Tue 19th October 2010, 8:11pm GlassBeadGame
Someone pointed out to me the very peculiar chara... Tue 19th October 2010, 9:05pm  Shalom
Someone pointed out to me the very peculiar char... Tue 19th October 2010, 10:51pm NuclearWarfare Quite interesting that they wrote up a Q&A sum... Tue 19th October 2010, 8:37pm GlassBeadGame
Quite interesting that they wrote up a Q&A su... Tue 19th October 2010, 9:10pm  Kevin
Quite interesting that they wrote up a Q&A s... Tue 19th October 2010, 9:28pm   TungstenCarbide meh ... sounds like he got laid off - fired withou... Tue 19th October 2010, 9:40pm    Kelly Martin meh ... sounds like he got laid off - fired withou... Tue 19th October 2010, 11:20pm     GlassBeadGame
meh ... sounds like he got laid off - fired witho... Tue 19th October 2010, 11:35pm      Kelly Martin My hope is that this is a move away from FreeKultu... Wed 20th October 2010, 2:54pm       SB_Johnny
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='256578' date='T... Wed 20th October 2010, 11:42pm        Kelly Martin When does Sue have to go through re-election/re-ru... Thu 21st October 2010, 12:38am         Cock-up-over-conspiracy I've also heard rumors that she has a golden p... Thu 21st October 2010, 3:51am     Milton Roe
meh ... sounds like he got laid off - fired witho... Tue 19th October 2010, 11:37pm      Doc glasgow
That says to me "fired, but we gave him a s... Tue 19th October 2010, 11:54pm       Peter Damian
That says to me "fired, but we gave him a ... Wed 20th October 2010, 7:56pm        CharlotteWebb
Or it could be they meant 'personal issues... Wed 20th October 2010, 7:59pm         thekohser
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='256680' date='We... Wed 20th October 2010, 8:30pm          CharlotteWebb
Funny that a Wikimedia mailing list is a reliable... Wed 20th October 2010, 9:07pm     anthony
It'll be interesting whether Erik gets shoved... Wed 20th October 2010, 12:03am      TungstenCarbide [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='256575' date='Tue... Wed 20th October 2010, 12:41am      Kelly Martin
In any case, I think Erik would be far too happy ... Wed 20th October 2010, 2:41pm     Somey The facts are a little sketchy, but as best I can ... Wed 20th October 2010, 12:54am      GlassBeadGame
The facts are a little sketchy, but as best I can... Wed 20th October 2010, 1:48am       anthony
What might be the nature of the Godwin/Moeller ri... Wed 20th October 2010, 1:52am carbuncle Mike Godwin is probably just enjoying his success ... Tue 19th October 2010, 9:07pm Milton Roe
Mike Godwin is probably just enjoying his success... Tue 19th October 2010, 9:33pm anthony RE: Out with Godwin Tue 19th October 2010, 9:22pm Jon Awbrey RE: Out with Godwin Tue 19th October 2010, 9:52pm SB_Johnny
a severance package for one of the top paid emplo... Tue 19th October 2010, 10:29pm gomi How does a non-profit 501-c-3 that files a Form 99... Tue 19th October 2010, 11:18pm GlassBeadGame Mod Note: Moved OT tax stuff to the lounge. Wed 20th October 2010, 1:28am anthony
Mod Note: Moved OT tax stuff to the lounge.
You... Wed 20th October 2010, 1:33am  GlassBeadGame
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='256606' date='W... Wed 20th October 2010, 1:39am   CharlotteWebb
This one? I thought Milton hadn't completel... Wed 20th October 2010, 2:56am    Jon Awbrey
I'm surprised they don't pose as a ... Wed 20th October 2010, 3:10am thekohser And wouldn't you know it, the Examiner is the ... Wed 20th October 2010, 1:33am thekohser
And wouldn't you know it, the [url=http://www... Mon 25th October 2010, 11:54pm  CharlotteWebb Let's all wish Mr. Godwin a happy birthday. He... Tue 26th October 2010, 7:44am   SB_Johnny
Let's all wish Mr. Godwin a happy birthday. H... Tue 26th October 2010, 7:59am   Milton Roe
Let's all wish Mr. Godwin a happy birthday. H... Tue 26th October 2010, 9:41am Ottava Godwin leaves.
This follows Mike Snow leaving.
B... Wed 20th October 2010, 1:43am EricBarbour You all missed a little item in that announcement:... Wed 20th October 2010, 4:38am EricBarbour I just checked in on this thread, and was amazed t... Wed 20th October 2010, 8:19am Milton Roe
I just checked in on this thread, and was amazed ... Wed 20th October 2010, 9:54am sjk
I just checked in on this thread, and was amazed ... Wed 20th October 2010, 11:38am Emperor If nothing else, Mr. Godwin will be remembered as ... Wed 20th October 2010, 1:00pm thekohser
If nothing else, Mr. Godwin will be remembered as... Wed 20th October 2010, 1:30pm  Kelly Martin
If nothing else, Mr. Godwin will be remembered a... Wed 20th October 2010, 2:47pm  GlassBeadGame
If nothing else, Mr. Godwin will be remembered a... Wed 20th October 2010, 3:36pm   Emperor
Well whoever it was established once and for all ... Wed 20th October 2010, 6:56pm    taiwopanfob
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='256665' date='W... Thu 21st October 2010, 4:07am     EricBarbour
If Steve Ballmer can be egged because, as I under... Thu 21st October 2010, 9:00am   taiwopanfob
Well whoever it was established once and for all ... Thu 21st October 2010, 3:55am    GlassBeadGame
Well whoever it was established once and for all... Thu 21st October 2010, 4:03am Text
Fair Use kills any kind of free license. If i am... Thu 21st October 2010, 11:35pm Emperor
Fair Use kills any kind of free license. If i a... Fri 22nd October 2010, 12:44pm  lilburne
Fair Use kills any kind of free license. If i ... Fri 22nd October 2010, 1:10pm GlassBeadGame What, no photos of the office despedida festivitie... Sat 23rd October 2010, 8:26pm Text
That's correct. And the main reason for a lo... Sat 23rd October 2010, 9:45pm Minor4th Hmmmmm.... <_< Sun 24th October 2010, 6:19pm   Milton Roe
I was intrigued by the way Godwin handled the FB... Sun 24th October 2010, 8:27pm    Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Minor4th' post='256995' date='Sun 2... Sun 24th October 2010, 11:20pm    Minor4th
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Our resident lawyers are plenty smart enough to... Mon 25th October 2010, 12:57am     Subtle Bee
But the thing is Godwin got the law wrong, and he... Mon 25th October 2010, 1:38am  Cock-up-over-conspiracy Sounds to me like they 're paying him to be a ... Wed 27th October 2010, 3:29pm   Minor4th
Sounds to me like they 're paying him to be a... Wed 3rd November 2010, 11:05pm    thekohser
No clue what he was being paid as general counsel... Thu 4th November 2010, 1:55am     Milton Roe
[quote name='Minor4th' post='257879' date='Wed 3r... Thu 4th November 2010, 2:29am Cock-up-over-conspiracy Can anyone confirm that the pay off came directly ... Tue 26th October 2010, 4:02pm thekohser
Can anyone confirm that the pay off came directly... Tue 26th October 2010, 6:57pm  Kevin
[quote name='Cock-up-over-conspira... Tue 26th October 2010, 9:27pm   Somey You were saying...
[url=http://www.flyinpigfestiv... Wed 27th October 2010, 4:08am    Cock-up-over-conspiracy Sue and Erik don't like competition any more t... Wed 27th October 2010, 4:38am    MZMcBride They want the attention focused on them, personall... Wed 27th October 2010, 5:25am SB_Johnny
Can anyone confirm that the pay off came directly... Wed 27th October 2010, 2:45pm carbuncle Has anyone considered the possibility that Godwin ... Wed 27th October 2010, 3:54pm thekohser
Has anyone considered the possibility that Godwin... Wed 27th October 2010, 4:16pm  Cedric
[quote name='carbuncle' post='257257' date='Wed 2... Wed 27th October 2010, 5:31pm Milton Roe
Has anyone considered the possibility that Godwin... Wed 27th October 2010, 10:39pm thekohser I've heard it also theorized that perhaps Godw... Wed 27th October 2010, 5:48pm thekohser Some humorous tidbits from Godwin's final IRC ... Wed 27th October 2010, 6:33pm Kelly Martin Do recall that Godwin made quite a few enemies in ... Wed 27th October 2010, 9:53pm EricBarbour Just a few "interesting" items in the pa... Fri 29th October 2010, 9:15am thekohser In case anyone is interested, it seems that someon... Wed 15th December 2010, 4:41am Jon Awbrey
In case anyone is interested, it seems that someo... Wed 15th December 2010, 4:52am  GlassBeadGame
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Not Wikipedia savvy, it seems. [url=http://en.wi... Thu 16th December 2010, 4:42pm Jon Awbrey But really, how come they don't just crowd-sou... Thu 16th December 2010, 12:10pm
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