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[carbuncle]

Not Wikipedia savvy, it seems. Registered just a few days ago, and her first edit reads horribly. Assuming that is her, which it almost certainly is.

I'm sure this is a case of mistaken identity. I don't think WP's associate counsel would commit copyright violation as their first edit by pasting two paragraphs from a Reuters news story...

Hush, she's only an intern Although the user name, registration date, and editing interests certainly are similar, you're probably right.

Her LinkedIn profile disagrees about the intern part.

[Cedric]

Not Wikipedia savvy, it seems. Registered just a few days ago, and her first edit reads horribly. Assuming that is her, which it almost certainly is.

I'm sure this is a case of mistaken identity. I don't think WP's associate counsel would commit copyright violation as their first edit by pasting two paragraphs from a Reuters news story...

Hush, she's only an intern Although the user name, registration date, and editing interests certainly are similar, you're probably right.

Her LinkedIn profile disagrees about the intern part.

The profile also suggests she passed her bar in March. It is entirely possible that a newly-minted attorney would be largely unaware of the requirements of copyright law. Copyright, trademark and patent is considered a specialty in the legal world; such a practice is quite expensive and the fees are correspondingly huge. While probably every ABA accredited law school offers courses in intellectual property law, I doubt that any has it as a required course. Also, I have never heard of an intellectual property question on a state's bar exam.

Still, she should have been expected to know plagiarism is. Naughty, naughty!

[thekohser]

Don't worry, whether it is her or it is not her editing on Wikipedia, Scotty Mac has given him/her/it the ol' auto-welcome:

== December 2010 ==

[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=|link=]] Your addition to [[:Los Angeles Recording School]] has been removed, as it appears to have added [[Wikipedia:Copyrights|copyrighted]] material to Wikipedia without [[Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission|permission]] from the copyright holder. For [[Wikipedia:Copyrights|legal reasons]], we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of ''information'', but not as a source of ''article content'' such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators '''will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''. <!-- Template:uw-copyright --> [[User talk:Scott MacDonald|Scott Mac]] 09:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I just sent him/her/it an e-mail to find out if they'll share their identity.

This post has been edited by thekohser: Thu 16th December 2010, 5:49pm

[Larry Sanger]

I guess it's possible that they had to oust him because after all this time, he finally got around to reading a legal textbook and realized that what the WMF does has been utterly illegal all along...

I just discovered this (fascinating!) thread. Somey, what exactly do you mean when you say "what the WMF does has been utterly illegal all along"?

[Larry Sanger]

Ms. Gardner is a toxic, evil woman--or so the scuttlebutt has been claiming.
Dunno myself, but she is clearly a manipulative creature.

Having talked with her at some length this year, that's not the impression I have, at all.

[Milton Roe]

Ms. Gardner is a toxic, evil woman--or so the scuttlebutt has been claiming.
Dunno myself, but she is clearly a manipulative creature.

Having talked with her at some length this year, that's not the impression I have, at all.

She is only toxic and not evil? Or only evil and not toxic?

Most evil people, or people who do evil, are pretty boring. Said Arendt. Godwin!

[GlassBeadGame]

Don't worry, whether it is her or it is not her editing on Wikipedia, Scotty Mac has given him/her/it the ol' auto-welcome:

== December 2010 ==

[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=|link=]] Your addition to [[:Los Angeles Recording School]] has been removed, as it appears to have added [[Wikipedia:Copyrights|copyrighted]] material to Wikipedia without [[Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission|permission]] from the copyright holder. For [[Wikipedia:Copyrights|legal reasons]], we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of ''information'', but not as a source of ''article content'' such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators '''will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''. <!-- Template:uw-copyright --> [[User talk:Scott MacDonald|Scott Mac]] 09:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I just sent him/her/it an e-mail to find out if they'll share their identity.

My spidey senses are all-a-tingley. I suspect a setup.

[MZMcBride]

Well, I don't know about the "Mpaulson" account and can't really be bothered to check, but I did update the contractors page.

[thekohser]

Sue Gardner, lying about Jimmy Wales.

When Sue Gardner left the CBC, there was a blog tribute wishing her farewell. The comments were so rabid about her political scheming at the CBC, the page was taken down entirely.

[melloden]

Her LinkedIn profile disagrees about the intern part.

It still said intern when the thread first started.

[EricBarbour]

When Sue Gardner left the CBC, there was a blog tribute wishing her farewell. The comments were so rabid about her political scheming at the CBC, the page was taken down entirely.

There was another Tea Makers post about her leaving. It, too, was removed mysteriously.
Nothing in archive.org either.

I remember seeing it in early 2009, before it went "poof". There were a LOT of comments posted below it, many of them said very nasty and catty things about Sue's leadership skills.

Even more interesting, the Toronto media blog saila.com had a post in May 2007 about Sue leaving. It's still shown in Google as a hit, but if you go to saila.com and search for the post---it's gone.

Wanna bet she's been going around threatening bloggers, to force them to remove any mention of her time at cbc.ca? Perhaps because people were criticizing her?

Is Sue one of those people who sits around in her office, Googling her own name to find criticism?

(Sadly, she was unable to muzzle Gawker.....)

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Thu 16th December 2010, 10:55pm

[melloden]

Ms. Gardner is a toxic, evil woman--or so the scuttlebutt has been claiming.
Dunno myself, but she is clearly a manipulative creature.

Having talked with her at some length this year, that's not the impression I have, at all.

She's both right and wrong for the Foundation, imo. Aggressive and media oriented leader who wants to advance her own agenda and start a new page of sorts.

[thekohser]

Apparently legal trooper Michelle Paulson is being supervised by legal eagle Alisa Key, according to this dashboard report.

Alisa is currently with Rosetta Stone, but she was previously with Squire Sanders, which was (as you may recall) the highest-paid contractor to the Wikimedia Foundation on the June 2009 Form 990. She's smiling all the way to the bank.

[Viridae]

meh ... sounds like he got laid off - fired without cause.

Since when do people who quit get severance packages.

I suppose the unprofessional and childish public letter to the FBI didn't help.

I have been missing for quite a while, came back to look around on a whim. Someone want to fill me in on this?

[thekohser]

I have been missing for quite a while, came back to look around on a whim. Someone want to fill me in on this?

Which portions of this 6-page thread left you feeling un-filled-in?

[Viridae]

I have been missing for quite a while, came back to look around on a whim. Someone want to fill me in on this?

Which portions of this 6-page thread left you feeling un-filled-in?

Sorry, I should have cut the quote down. Referring to the letter to the FBI.

[thekohser]

I have been missing for quite a while, came back to look around on a whim. Someone want to fill me in on this?

Which portions of this 6-page thread left you feeling un-filled-in?

Sorry, I should have cut the quote down. Referring to the letter to the FBI.

Use Google to search for "Mike Godwin" and "FBI" and "letter".

That's if you didn't know about his letter to the FBI. If rather you are asking what's "new" on the letter-to-the-FBI front... the man to whom Godwin wrote the letter was two weeks from retirement, and he retired, and Mike Godwin left (was pushed out of) the Wikimedia Foundation.

(Welcome back, by the way, Viridae!)

[Somey]

Just to follow up a little bit after having lost track of this thread...

I guess it's possible that they had to oust him because after all this time, he finally got around to reading a legal textbook and realized that what the WMF does has been utterly illegal all along...

I just discovered this (fascinating!) thread. Somey, what exactly do you mean when you say "what the WMF does has been utterly illegal all along"?

That was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but I was mostly referring to what I consider to be the WMF's bogus "charity" status. For them to call themselves a charity has always struck me as little more than outright fraud. The fact that many of them edit Wikipedia themselves, and then claim that this activity "is in no way related" to their statuses as WMF employees, is probably not so much illegal as simply dishonest.

Obviously it's not illegal to host a website, and I suppose there are charities that occasionally harm people and realize it, but all the WMF really does is host websites - and they've always known that their websites can harm people. If they were doing something more traditional, like manufacturing toys for kids, but working under the same operating principles that they have now... I think they would have been put in the slammer by now, for reckless endangerment.

[melloden]

If they were doing something more traditional, like manufacturing toys for kids, but working under the same operating principles that they have now... I think they would have been put in the slammer by now, for reckless endangerment.

If the WMF moved to China, they could use as much lead paint as they wanted.

[EricBarbour]

If the WMF moved to China, they could use as much lead paint as they wanted.

Hell with that--the only major reason to make things in China is simple: cheap labor.

The WMF is the ultimate sweatshop. They don't have to move to China, because they already
have thousands of crazy people working for them. From all over the world. For free.