Unimportant Decision 2010 Options

[Milton Roe]

Over all, pretty boring results (but oftentimes in politics, boring is good).

But not always. For example, whever Obama is, he's not boring.

Madeleine Albright was boring. I keep her 661 page Madame Secretary by my bed, for when I run low on Xanax. Three paragraphs, maybe four, and I'm out like a light. Clinton's windy doorstop was almost as good, but I finished it.

Yeah, well, say what you want about Hitler but he wasn't boring. All that podium pounding and self help therapy for a whole nation. And see where that ended up.

Godwin.. In general, life is like that. The safe parts are boring, and when you get to the end, almost the only thing you wish for is that you'd been nicer to people, AND taken more risks.

[EricBarbour]

Hah, Giano didn't even get as many votes as FT2. Funny also how Mr. now-banned Loosmark had more support votes than Jayvdb. A pity that Xeno and David got in; Xeno + block button = hiliarious (thank you, Marek) and David needs to go write more FAs. NYB was the big winner, of course, and Shell barely made it in. The results are lamer than the election itself, after FT2's little memory loss and Giano's stink about IDing. Personally, I think Iridescent will bring enough of the anti-arbcom sentiment without crashing the whole system.

And I have the horrible feeling that I'm reading an issue of Tiger Beat magazine.

NEWS FLASH: these people are not celebrities, I repeat, not celebrities. They are nobodies,
wastrels and droning bureaucrat-manques and nerdy OCD sufferers, with staggering amounts of
time to burn and chips on their shoulders. Especially NYB--you know what he looks like. What makes
HIM so damned popular, other than being unusually diplomatic for an Arbcommer? Female readers
of this forum, would you date that guy? Would any of you hire him to represent you in court?
Especially knowing how goddamned much time he spends on bloody Wikipedia, and not on working
for his paying clients (if any)?

The majority of those electees do little or no actual editing of Wikipedia articles. And especially the losers.
What does, say, Sandstein do, except go around posting smug little squibs on talkpages, and perform
unimportant managerial jobs like opening and closing AFDs? Ever looked at Elen's recent history?
Elen used to generate a lot of actual content. Now, all I see is Sandstein-like bureaucratorial twiddling.

Giano's narcissism, my ass. They're all narcissists. And you're helping them, by talking about them
in this manner. Some of those new arbs are probably reading this thread with barely-suppressed joy--
"omg they mentioned me!!"

[Craftyminion]

A most succulent result.

Firstly, how satisfying to see the egregious Off2riorob go down the shitter with 16% of the vote. It's nearly as good as watching the recent defrocking of Ottava over at Wikiversity.

But the best bit was Giano getting the walloping he had so long deserved. What an arrogant little hamster of a man. Such hubris!

His arrogant posturing over identifying himself to the WMF, eschewing access to the secret Arb lists and all that other conceited carry on underlined his unwarranted and deluded assumption that that oppressed wikimasses would sling him into office without a second thought.

For the record I only supported one candidate: Xeno.


/edit: typo/

This post has been edited by Craftyminion: Thu 9th December 2010, 9:36am

[Somey]

His arrogant posturing over identifying himself to the WMF, eschewing access to the secret Arb lists and all that other conceited carry on underlined his unwarranted and deluded assumption that that oppressed wikimasses would sling him into office without a second thought.

I think you're being somewhat unfair here, and also your prose style is rather pretentious. Giano never seriously claimed that he would win easily, or even win at all, from what I could gather. If you have a link that indicates otherwise, by all means post it - but the classic narcissistic approach to such a farcical election would be to hedge one's bets, egotistically speaking, by saying something like "it doesn't matter if I win or not, the point is that people will be forced to make a choice," or something equally ridiculous. You wouldn't expect him to say "I will win easily," because such a statement would represent a clear humiliation-risk in case of a defeat.

[Cla68]

The safe parts are boring, and when you get to the end, almost the only thing you wish for is that you'd been nicer to people, AND taken more risks.

That is exactly right. Although not true in every instance, it seems to generally be better to regret things you have done than things you haven't.

[Theanima]

Good grief, what does it take to get Giano elected? I figured most of the teenage admins and their buddies would vote against him, because he hasn't hidden how he feels about that WP demographic. I just didn't think they represented such a large bloc of participants.

Seriously? And you know they were teenagers and their buddies how...?

[Peter Damian]

And Giano has left again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=401695623

[Doc glasgow]

And Giano has left again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=401695623

It must be his lunchtime.

[GlassBeadGame]

And Giano has left again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=401695623

It must be his lunchtime.

I like the Christmas tree pic. Giano's parents have a swell basement.

[Text]

I like the Christmas tree pic. Giano's parents have a swell basement.

Giano is a troll like the Fat Man! Time to have him banned, he doesn't even add interesting content anymore!

[LessHorrid vanU]

I like the Christmas tree pic. Giano's parents have a swell basement.

Giano is a troll like the Fat Man! Time to have him banned, he doesn't even add interesting content anymore!

You mean stuff like this? Not enough tits and warlocks for you? It does mention decapitation fairly early on, and a great deal about Death Duties, so perhaps you might enjoy it.

You will have to actually read it, though.

[SB_Johnny]

You mean stuff like this?

Good grief. Is there an article bemoaning the loss of culturally and aesthetically important statues of Lenin* and Stalin yet?

*Not John, the other guy.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

You mean stuff like this?

Good grief. Is there an article bemoaning the loss of culturally and aesthetically important statues of Lenin* and Stalin yet?

*Not John, the other guy.

A common mistake.

[Milton Roe]

You mean stuff like this?

Good grief. Is there an article bemoaning the loss of culturally and aesthetically important statues of Lenin* and Stalin yet?

*Not John, the other guy.

John Lenin, John Lenin....

Sounds vaguely familiar but I can't place it.

Did he work with Ringo Stalin?

[Casliber]

You mean stuff like this?

Good grief. Is there an article bemoaning the loss of culturally and aesthetically important statues of Lenin* and Stalin yet?

*Not John, the other guy.

awww, I reckon we could write one about the loss of many heirloom varieties of fruit and vegetables SB Johnny .....

[A Horse With No Name]

And Giano has left again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=401695623

Like a venereal disease - he never truly disappears from the system.

[SB_Johnny]

You mean stuff like this?

Good grief. Is there an article bemoaning the loss of culturally and aesthetically important statues of Lenin* and Stalin yet?

*Not John, the other guy.

John Lenin, John Lenin....

Sounds vaguely familiar but I can't place it.

Did he work with Ringo Stalin?

I thought it was Ringo Starsky.

[It's the blimp, Frank]

What's all this fuss over Giano not identifying himself? I thought everyone already knew who who is - he's Frank Kowalczek, a construction worker from Hoboken.

But wait, there's more.

[EricBarbour]

Obviously I wouldn't expect Jimbo to appoint arbitrators with whom he wasn't satisfied. I think this might be annoying to the community but I don't see any obvious solution there.

It would be useful at least to know something of the nature of the questions, if only to save future prospective candidates the bother of running only to be passed over because of some unforeseen sticking point. Tasty monster (=TS ) 08:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Tm, when you say, "Obviously I wouldn't expect Jimbo to appoint arbitrators with whom he wasn't satisfied.", it suggests a monarchical system that I was hoping the enwiki community had grown out of. It is becoming increasingly unacceptable that Mr Wales be permitted to unilaterally meddle in the election results and to impose his own, private filtering system. Sorry, I had to say it. Tony (talk) 08:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

No clue. No clue at all.

It occurs to me: they can't toss Wales out.
He has his own personal army of meatpuppets who are indebted to him.

Remember the first-ever Arbcom? Handpicked. By Jimbo.
I wonder how many of them are still actively involved with the WMF:

The current members of the arbitration committee are:
* Daniel Mayer, aka Maveric149 -- maveric149 at yahoo.com
* David Friedland, aka Nohat -- david at nohat.net
* Fred Bauder -- fredbaud at ctelco.net
* Gutza -- gutza at moongate.ro, but please see my notice on a temporary internet outage
* James Forrester, aka Jdforrester -- james at jdforrester.org
* Lee Pilich, aka Camembert -- lee at audiblerecords.com
* Mark, aka Delirium -- delirium at rufus.d2g.com
* Martin Harper, aka MyRedDice -- wikipedia at myreddice.co.uk
* Sean Barrett, aka The Epopt -- sean at epoptic.org
* The Cunctator -- cunctator at kband.com
All volunteered apart from The Cunctator, who was "drafted". Jimbo plans that future arbitrators will be elected. By choice, we don't have a chair.

I checked--Fred Bauder, Jdforrester, Mav (T-C-L-K-R-D) , and Delirium (T-C-L-K-R-D) are still heavily active almost every day. They have their little fingers in admin and Arbcom issues. Would they stand up for Jimbo-wants? Probably.

Nohat, Camembert, Cunctator and Gutza are very occasional editors and could be considered inactive in WMF political matters. Also goes for the much-disliked UninvitedCompany. Martin Harper and that incredible bastard the Epopt are inactive.

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Mon 13th December 2010, 9:20am

[Giano]

Obviously I wouldn't expect Jimbo to appoint arbitrators with whom he wasn't satisfied. I think this might be annoying to the community but I don't see any obvious solution there.

It would be useful at least to know something of the nature of the questions, if only to save future prospective candidates the bother of running only to be passed over because of some unforeseen sticking point. Tasty monster (=TS ) 08:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Tm, when you say, "Obviously I wouldn't expect Jimbo to appoint arbitrators with whom he wasn't satisfied.", it suggests a monarchical system that I was hoping the enwiki community had grown out of. It is becoming increasingly unacceptable that Mr Wales be permitted to unilaterally meddle in the election results and to impose his own, private filtering system. Sorry, I had to say it. Tony (talk) 08:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

No clue. No clue at all.

It occurs to me: they can't toss Wales out.
He has his own personal army of meatpuppets who are indebted to him.

Remember the first-ever Arbcom? Handpicked. By Jimbo.
I wonder how many of them are still actively involved with the WMF:

The current members of the arbitration committee are:
* Daniel Mayer, aka Maveric149 -- maveric149 at yahoo.com
* David Friedland, aka Nohat -- david at nohat.net
* Fred Bauder -- fredbaud at ctelco.net
* Gutza -- gutza at moongate.ro, but please see my notice on a temporary internet outage
* James Forrester, aka Jdforrester -- james at jdforrester.org
* Lee Pilich, aka Camembert -- lee at audiblerecords.com
* Mark, aka Delirium -- delirium at rufus.d2g.com
* Martin Harper, aka MyRedDice -- wikipedia at myreddice.co.uk
* Sean Barrett, aka The Epopt -- sean at epoptic.org
* The Cunctator -- cunctator at kband.com
All volunteered apart from The Cunctator, who was "drafted". Jimbo plans that future arbitrators will be elected. By choice, we don't have a chair.

I checked--Fred Bauder, Jdforrester, Mav (T-C-L-K-R-D) , and Delirium (T-C-L-K-R-D) are still heavily active almost every day. They have their little fingers in admin and Arbcom issues. Would they stand up for Jimbo-wants? Probably.

Nohat, Camembert, Cunctator and Gutza are very occasional editors and could be considered inactive in WMF political matters. Also goes for the much-disliked UninvitedCompany. Martin Harper and that incredible bastard the Epopt are inactive.

Indeed he is surrounded by his own Pretorian guard, but I think this election has given King Jimbo a huge jolt, he has suddenly realised that it is just “possible” for someone like me (or even worse) to get on to the Arbcom. I think he was more confident of me getting a seat than I ever was, which is why he was shouting about so much during the election – have we ever seen him post so much and so frequently – in so short a space of time? Now he's going to try and change the rules and requirements for Arbs so that he's able to assert and maintain more control. One thing he does not seem to have realised is that politicians usually have to swear an oath of allegiance to the constitutional sovereign – it can only be a matter of time before James Forrester (his Blackadder like Lord high Chamberlain) of Fred Bauder (Captain of the Guard) whispers that in his ear and it becomes the next requirement.

Giacomo

PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=402161175 and it does look to be working for him - see the new Lord Cheif Toady Extraordinaire.

This post has been edited by Giano: Mon 13th December 2010, 4:38pm