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| tarantino |
Thu 18th November 2010, 2:13am
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In response to the question "Why American Wikimedian community is exclusively white?" on the mailing list, Fred says:
QUOTE The short answer: Wikipedia editors are volunteers and African-Americans rarely volunteer. The medium answer: African-American editors often edit only articles which relate to African-American and do that in a point of view way. The long answer: large blocks of African-American are oppressed, unemployed, poorly educated, and computer illiterate. Those that are educated and prosperous tend to be too busy, and as said, are not in the habit of volunteering. "Wow. Maybe you can follow Phoebe's example and cite some evidence?" QUOTE A reaction like this is expected to any honest straightforward observation that is not politically correct. I lived in the Five Points neighborhood of Denver for yeara. I like Black people, but there are issues. |
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Thu 18th November 2010, 2:27am
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In response to the question "Why American Wikimedian community is exclusively white?" on the mailing list, Fred says: QUOTE The short answer: Wikipedia editors are volunteers and African-Americans rarely volunteer. The medium answer: African-American editors often edit only articles which relate to African-American and do that in a point of view way. The long answer: large blocks of African-American are oppressed, unemployed, poorly educated, and computer illiterate. Those that are educated and prosperous tend to be too busy, and as said, are not in the habit of volunteering. "Wow. Maybe you can follow Phoebe's example and cite some evidence?" QUOTE A reaction like this is expected to any honest straightforward observation that is not politically correct. I lived in the Five Points neighborhood of Denver for yeara. I like Black people, but there are issues. What Fred should have done: just cite evidence. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/volun.nr0.htm |
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Thu 18th November 2010, 4:15am
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According to the most recent statistics, black women volunteer nearly as often as white men. Hispanics are are also separated out in the results, though they may be black, white, brown or blue. |
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Thu 18th November 2010, 5:17am
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Actually, one runs a non-negligible risk of being blocked for editing while black. I think situations like may discourage users from identifying as black (excepting those who are trolling to begin with).
It reminds me of this sordid incident, in which the bottom-rate admin Rjd0060 blocked an editor 24 hrs. for using the word "bigot" (in response to being called "black bastard" and "nigger" among other sweet nothings). Rjd later then extended it to 72 hrs. for contempt-of-cop. Also, P.C. speaks about P.C.: However the point is demonstrated in Wikipedia where from Jimbo down there are far too many people who like to act like the primmest of schoolma'ams from the most stereotyped of films and react in a shocked manner when someone dares to use blunt language to describe bigots and other assorted vermin. WP:CIV and WP:NPA are all very well when dealing with good faith contributors but, despite being told otherwise by the Great Leader and his sycophants, I still maintain that WP:IAR wins when it comes to dealing with blatant cases of bad faith. The failure of the likes of Rjd0060, Jimbo and their ilk to consider why people ventilate their anger at assorted trolls and bigots demonstrates an over-estimation of the value of surface civility as compared to digging out the genuinely malicious and disruptive. The foregoing is certainly a better answer than Fred gave. |
tarantino Fred Bauder Thu 18th November 2010, 2:13am
Jon Awbrey On the Internet no one can tell yer a Dawg.
Jon :... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:19am
Abd What Fred should have done: just cite evidence.
ht... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:46am

WikiWatch
Maybe black people are smarter than white people.... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:57am


Abd Maybe black people are smarter than white people. ... Thu 18th November 2010, 3:58am

It's the blimp, Frank
Maybe black people are smarter than white people.... Thu 18th November 2010, 3:12am

taiwopanfob That thing about "blacks don't volunteer... Thu 18th November 2010, 4:11am
Milton Roe
What Fred should have done: just cite evidence.... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:34am
Abd [/quote]Someone from the Foundation should grab th... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:31am
A Horse With No Name (And I have two "white" daughters and o... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:59pm
Abd [quote name='Abd' post='259516' date='Wed 17th Nov... Thu 18th November 2010, 7:12pm
Abd MODS! please delete this extra post. Thu 18th November 2010, 7:20pm
Eva Destruction
However, there is another assumption that some ar... Thu 18th November 2010, 8:19pm
Milton Roe
This whole "don't volunteer" argume... Thu 18th November 2010, 8:42pm
carbuncle I hope someone mentions the lack of non-white peni... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:54am
privatemusings
I hope someone mentions the lack of non-white pen... Thu 18th November 2010, 10:54pm
carbuncle
I hope someone mentions the lack of non-white pe... Thu 18th November 2010, 11:07pm

SB_Johnny
[quote name='privatemusings' post='259618' date='... Thu 18th November 2010, 11:50pm
MZMcBride (bit of a side comment - but if you're around,... Fri 19th November 2010, 8:28am
thekohser I'll bet the media is going to have a field da... Thu 18th November 2010, 4:52am
It's the blimp, Frank
I'll bet the media is going to have a field d... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:05am

thekohser
[quote name='thekohser' post='259529' date='Thu 1... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:19am
TungstenCarbide
I'll bet the media is going to have a field d... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:20am
Ottava
[quote name='thekohser' post='259529' date='Thu 1... Thu 18th November 2010, 8:59pm
Abd Brilliant. Elegant in its simplicity. Easy to read... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:42pm
Somey
Yeah, he definitely should have stopped on the ... Thu 18th November 2010, 6:02am
Peter Damian RE: Fred Bauder Thu 18th November 2010, 5:25pm
Kelly Martin There's a difference between volunteering to d... Thu 18th November 2010, 8:49pm
thekohser
There's a difference between volunteering to ... Thu 18th November 2010, 9:21pm
jayvdb
There's a difference between volunteering to... Thu 18th November 2010, 9:48pm

Zoloft
[quote name='thekohser' post='259609' date='Thu 1... Thu 18th November 2010, 10:06pm

jayvdb
[quote name='thekohser' post='259609' date='Thu ... Thu 18th November 2010, 10:20pm
Milton Roe
There's a difference between volunteering to... Fri 19th November 2010, 5:19am
Kelly Martin What if doing something for "humankind as a w... Fri 19th November 2010, 6:53am
TungstenCarbide
What if doing something for "humankind as a ... Fri 19th November 2010, 7:53am
Cla68
[quote name='Kelly Martin' post='259654' date='Fr... Sat 20th November 2010, 4:01pm
Gruntled
Both you and Kelly made some really good points. ... Sat 20th November 2010, 8:14pm

Kelly Martin We may not always recognise altruism, or what an e... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:32pm

Milton Roe
There's nothing wrong with contributing to Wi... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:48pm
Milton Roe
Both you and Kelly made some really good points. ... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:20pm
EricBarbour This stuff is only OCD if it interferes with your ... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:29pm
thekohser Once again, Fred Bauder opines on one of his favor... Sun 3rd July 2011, 11:33am
LessHorrid vanU
There's nothing wrong with contributing to W... Sun 3rd July 2011, 12:33pm
Milton Roe
Once again, Fred Bauder opines on one of his favo... Sun 3rd July 2011, 3:00pm
Mathsci
Once again, Fred Bauder opines on one of his favo... Mon 4th July 2011, 8:54pm
HRIP7
Once again, Fred Bauder [url=http://lists.wikimed... Mon 4th July 2011, 9:49pm
LessHorrid vanU
Once again, Fred Bauder [url=http://lists.wikime... Mon 4th July 2011, 9:58pm
RMHED
[quote name='HRIP7' post='279006' date='Mon 4th J... Mon 4th July 2011, 10:02pm
EricBarbour Oooh! That's a goooood one!
If Fred ... Mon 4th July 2011, 9:03pm![]() ![]() |
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