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| tarantino |
Thu 18th November 2010, 2:13am
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In response to the question "Why American Wikimedian community is exclusively white?" on the mailing list, Fred says:
QUOTE The short answer: Wikipedia editors are volunteers and African-Americans rarely volunteer. The medium answer: African-American editors often edit only articles which relate to African-American and do that in a point of view way. The long answer: large blocks of African-American are oppressed, unemployed, poorly educated, and computer illiterate. Those that are educated and prosperous tend to be too busy, and as said, are not in the habit of volunteering. "Wow. Maybe you can follow Phoebe's example and cite some evidence?" QUOTE A reaction like this is expected to any honest straightforward observation that is not politically correct. I lived in the Five Points neighborhood of Denver for yeara. I like Black people, but there are issues. |
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| Kelly Martin |
Thu 18th November 2010, 8:49pm
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Bring back the guttersnipes! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 3,270 Joined: Sun 22nd Jun 2008, 4:41am From: EN61bw Member No.: 6,696 |
There's a difference between volunteering to do something for the greater benefit of a community of which one is a member (even if that community is "humankind as a whole"), and "volunteering" to do something because it amuses you. I wager that most of the people "volunteering" at Wikipedia are doing it because it amuses them to do so; that is, the motivation is self-centered (for the primary benefit of the self) instead of outward (for the primary benefit of others). Essentially, for most Wikipedians, Wikipedia is a hobby, not a volunteer activity.
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tarantino Fred Bauder Thu 18th November 2010, 2:13am
Jon Awbrey On the Internet no one can tell yer a Dawg.
Jon :... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:19am
Milton Roe
In response to the question "[url=http://lis... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:27am
Abd What Fred should have done: just cite evidence.
ht... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:46am

WikiWatch
Maybe black people are smarter than white people.... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:57am


Abd Maybe black people are smarter than white people. ... Thu 18th November 2010, 3:58am

It's the blimp, Frank
Maybe black people are smarter than white people.... Thu 18th November 2010, 3:12am

taiwopanfob That thing about "blacks don't volunteer... Thu 18th November 2010, 4:11am
tarantino
What Fred should have done: just cite evidence.
... Thu 18th November 2010, 4:15am
CharlotteWebb Actually, one runs a non-negligible risk of being ... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:17am
Milton Roe
What Fred should have done: just cite evidence.... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:34am
Abd [/quote]Someone from the Foundation should grab th... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:31am
A Horse With No Name (And I have two "white" daughters and o... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:59pm
Abd [quote name='Abd' post='259516' date='Wed 17th Nov... Thu 18th November 2010, 7:12pm
Abd MODS! please delete this extra post. Thu 18th November 2010, 7:20pm
Eva Destruction
However, there is another assumption that some ar... Thu 18th November 2010, 8:19pm
Milton Roe
This whole "don't volunteer" argume... Thu 18th November 2010, 8:42pm
carbuncle I hope someone mentions the lack of non-white peni... Thu 18th November 2010, 2:54am
privatemusings
I hope someone mentions the lack of non-white pen... Thu 18th November 2010, 10:54pm
carbuncle
I hope someone mentions the lack of non-white pe... Thu 18th November 2010, 11:07pm

SB_Johnny
[quote name='privatemusings' post='259618' date='... Thu 18th November 2010, 11:50pm
MZMcBride (bit of a side comment - but if you're around,... Fri 19th November 2010, 8:28am
thekohser I'll bet the media is going to have a field da... Thu 18th November 2010, 4:52am
It's the blimp, Frank
I'll bet the media is going to have a field d... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:05am

thekohser
[quote name='thekohser' post='259529' date='Thu 1... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:19am
TungstenCarbide
I'll bet the media is going to have a field d... Thu 18th November 2010, 5:20am
Ottava
[quote name='thekohser' post='259529' date='Thu 1... Thu 18th November 2010, 8:59pm
Abd Brilliant. Elegant in its simplicity. Easy to read... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:42pm
Somey
Yeah, he definitely should have stopped on the ... Thu 18th November 2010, 6:02am
Peter Damian RE: Fred Bauder Thu 18th November 2010, 5:25pm
thekohser
There's a difference between volunteering to ... Thu 18th November 2010, 9:21pm
jayvdb
There's a difference between volunteering to... Thu 18th November 2010, 9:48pm

Zoloft
[quote name='thekohser' post='259609' date='Thu 1... Thu 18th November 2010, 10:06pm

jayvdb
[quote name='thekohser' post='259609' date='Thu ... Thu 18th November 2010, 10:20pm
Milton Roe
There's a difference between volunteering to... Fri 19th November 2010, 5:19am
Kelly Martin What if doing something for "humankind as a w... Fri 19th November 2010, 6:53am
TungstenCarbide
What if doing something for "humankind as a ... Fri 19th November 2010, 7:53am
Cla68
[quote name='Kelly Martin' post='259654' date='Fr... Sat 20th November 2010, 4:01pm
Gruntled
Both you and Kelly made some really good points. ... Sat 20th November 2010, 8:14pm

Kelly Martin We may not always recognise altruism, or what an e... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:32pm

Milton Roe
There's nothing wrong with contributing to Wi... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:48pm
Milton Roe
Both you and Kelly made some really good points. ... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:20pm
EricBarbour This stuff is only OCD if it interferes with your ... Sat 20th November 2010, 9:29pm
thekohser Once again, Fred Bauder opines on one of his favor... Sun 3rd July 2011, 11:33am
LessHorrid vanU
There's nothing wrong with contributing to W... Sun 3rd July 2011, 12:33pm
Milton Roe
Once again, Fred Bauder opines on one of his favo... Sun 3rd July 2011, 3:00pm
Mathsci
Once again, Fred Bauder opines on one of his favo... Mon 4th July 2011, 8:54pm
HRIP7
Once again, Fred Bauder [url=http://lists.wikimed... Mon 4th July 2011, 9:49pm
LessHorrid vanU
Once again, Fred Bauder [url=http://lists.wikime... Mon 4th July 2011, 9:58pm
RMHED
[quote name='HRIP7' post='279006' date='Mon 4th J... Mon 4th July 2011, 10:02pm
EricBarbour Oooh! That's a goooood one!
If Fred ... Mon 4th July 2011, 9:03pm![]() ![]() |
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