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Peter Damian
post Mon 29th November 2010, 8:16pm
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There have been a couple of references here to this guy. One compared him to Robespierre and claimed that he would turn Arbcom into a Committee of Public Safety. The Committee of Public Safety murdered thousands of people. Is Sandstein that bad? I've come across him a few times and he seemed pretty bad, but no worse than many. What's the deal? I suppose, like Robespierre, he is also a lawyer.

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post Mon 29th November 2010, 8:26pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 29th November 2010, 3:16pm) *

There have been a couple of references here to this guy. One compared him to Robespierre and claimed that he would turn Arbcom into a Committee of Public Safety. The Committee of Public Safety murdered thousands of people. Is Sandstein that bad? I've come across him a few times and he seemed pretty bad, but no worse than many. What's the deal? I suppose, like Robespierre, he is also a lawyer.


As long as he ends like Robespierre it should be amusing. But really, Peter, if they can't make do without the link to the WP article maybe it would be better to let them slide.
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post Mon 29th November 2010, 8:48pm
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He's a frequent quest at AN/I and similar fora, where he enforces the house POV with an iron fist.
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post Mon 29th November 2010, 8:51pm
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Mon 29th November 2010, 8:48pm) *

He's a frequent quest at AN/I and similar fora, where he enforces the house POV with an iron fist.


In a firm but fair way? Or firm but unfair?
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post Mon 29th November 2010, 8:58pm
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He's also a damned fool, and incompetent to boot.
Allow me to bring up the Law/Undertow flap again--Sandstein was a major player therein.
Plus the many, many Giano abuses. Here's one.

Sandstein makes me think of the classic "useful idiot" bit.
Isn't it amazing how many "useful idiots" Wikipedia has?

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post Mon 29th November 2010, 9:01pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 29th November 2010, 12:51pm) *
QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Mon 29th November 2010, 8:48pm) *
He's a frequent quest at AN/I and similar fora, where he enforces the house POV with an iron fist.
In a firm but fair way? Or firm but unfair?

Many here would argue that there is no fair way to enforce a fundamentally unfair and self-inconsistent set of rules. That said, Sandstein seems to enforce not so much randomly as unthinkingly. Often the distinction is quite difficult to discern. He seldom takes any action against established editors, no matter how egregious their behaviour.

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post Mon 29th November 2010, 9:25pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 29th November 2010, 8:58pm) *

He's also a damned fool, and incompetent to boot.

Here's one


Where it says "Sandstein's obviously lost the map that shows him where his brain is located". I'm beginning to get the picture. Definitely one to vote for!

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post Mon 29th November 2010, 9:34pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 29th November 2010, 1:25pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 29th November 2010, 8:58pm) *

He's also a damned fool, and incompetent to boot.

Here's one


Where it says "Sandstein's obviously lost the map that shows him where his brain is located". I'm beginning to get the picture. Definitely one to vote for!

If Sandstein were a cop, he'd be the one at the apartment fire citing every fleeing resident for jaywalking.
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post Mon 29th November 2010, 10:01pm
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QUOTE(Zoloft @ Mon 29th November 2010, 1:34pm) *

If Sandstein were a cop, he'd be the one at the apartment fire citing every fleeing resident for jaywalking.
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post Thu 2nd December 2010, 9:59pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 29th November 2010, 9:58pm) *

He's also a damned fool, and incompetent to boot.


See for example http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elkawe
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post Fri 3rd December 2010, 6:24am
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Sandstein is a fair admin in my opinion.
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post Thu 16th December 2010, 9:34pm
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QUOTE(Wikifan @ Fri 3rd December 2010, 6:24am) *

Sandstein is a fair admin in my opinion.

The fact that you are stating this makes me have serious doubts about Sandstein's fairness.
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post Thu 16th December 2010, 10:34pm
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QUOTE(Jagärdu @ Thu 16th December 2010, 1:34pm) *
QUOTE(Wikifan @ Fri 3rd December 2010, 6:24am) *
Sandstein is a fair admin in my opinion.
The fact that you are stating this makes me have serious doubts about Sandstein's fairness.

biggrin.gif This is probably not a good place to claim that Sandstein is "fair".

Try it on AN/I instead. More cluelessness there.

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post Fri 17th December 2010, 2:13pm
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On this page you can find Sandstein's real name.

http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/hivemind.html

Here is some more discussion on this admin:

http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi...ead=3011&page=5
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post Wed 22nd December 2010, 11:30am
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QUOTE(Jagärdu @ Thu 16th December 2010, 9:34pm) *

QUOTE(Wikifan @ Fri 3rd December 2010, 6:24am) *

Sandstein is a fair admin in my opinion.

The fact that you are stating this makes me have serious doubts about Sandstein's fairness.


It's not like Sandstein is a fan of Wikifan. But as far as I can tell he is very fair overall to the majority of editors.
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post Wed 22nd December 2010, 1:10pm
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QUOTE(Wikifan @ Wed 22nd December 2010, 11:30am) *

QUOTE(Jagärdu @ Thu 16th December 2010, 9:34pm) *

QUOTE(Wikifan @ Fri 3rd December 2010, 6:24am) *

Sandstein is a fair admin in my opinion.

The fact that you are stating this makes me have serious doubts about Sandstein's fairness.


It's not like Sandstein is a fan of Wikifan. But as far as I can tell he is very fair overall to the majority of editors.

He treats the majority of editors in much the same way, if that's what fair means. sick.gif
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post Wed 22nd December 2010, 5:53pm
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i hate him. he is dumb.
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post Fri 24th December 2010, 3:33am
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QUOTE(MUCHERS22 @ Fri 17th December 2010, 8:13am) *

On this page you can find Sandstein's real name.

http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/hivemind.html


Almost as amusing as Wikipedia's "facebook". What a motley crew.

Except for Gwen Gale, who is apparently really hot.
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post Sat 25th December 2010, 12:46pm
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Sandstein is the type that enjoys a good hanging. smile.gif
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post Sun 26th December 2010, 10:15am
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QUOTE(Guido den Broeder @ Sat 25th December 2010, 12:46pm) *

Sandstein is the type that enjoys a good hanging. smile.gif


Or a good Guillotining, as I suggested at the beginning of this thread.
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