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ebc123
post Wed 8th December 2010, 8:08pm
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To state my opinion up front, what does it matter if you are paid to write about a person or organization or whatever and you follow the conflict of interest, neutral point-of-view, etc. guidelines, include most if not all the necessary references and basically produce an average to above average encyclopedic page?

For one thing there are many notable people out there who likely will never have a page written about them unless someone else takes the initiative to contact them or if they decide to contact someone to do it for them. I mean, it's nice and all to donate your time but unfortunately in this world the bills arrive every month. Again if you're able to be up front with a client and spell out the Wiki ground rules and from there produce a quality piece, what does it matter that you were paid?

For another thing it stands to reason that many if not most pages on Wikipedia are originally created and subsequently edited by people who have some abiding (some may say "slanted") interest in the topic. Why else bother with the effort?

So there's that. I'm wondering as far as paid editing what other people have to say. In addition to the above comments namely:

1. If you submit to Wikipedia's encouragement to divulge your paid arrangement, are you forever and automatically tagged with a "conflict of interest" heading?

2. If you divulge your paid status, are you now basically chum for other editors to tear your piece apart no matter how well it conforms to style and substance?

Thank you for any thoughts on this.
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ebc123
post Fri 10th December 2010, 4:31pm
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My apologies “thekoser.” Thanks for the welcome. Your ebook looks interesting. I think it’s pricey for an ebook, especially since it doesn’t say anywhere how substantial it is (pages/words/etc.) But it looks interesting.

Thanks very much for all the info so far. It’s good to hear both sides and any details from experienced users.

If I could bother folks further (as answers often lead to more questions) I’m wondering:

As far as “wikieyeay’s” quote: “I would point out that unless they suspect something, they are not going to bother to check for multiple accounts.”

1. What (if anything) might cause them to suspect something as a Conflict of Interest if it doesn’t contain promo language or controversial subjects?

2. If they decide one account is in voilation, can they discover your other accounts through IP address, sockpuppets (whatever they are), or something else?

As far as “Multiple accounts are probably an unnecessary step, but that depends on how much money, etc., you have at stake.

I’d like to generate a fair amount of income so of course money/reputation would be a factor. Here is where question 2 above comes into play. It’s one thing to have a problem with one article and another thing to have a problem with 5, 10 or more.

I suppose saying “Paid editing is actually normally uncontroversial...” says a lot. As I mentioned in my first post, I fully intend on complying with Wikipedia’s policies and guidelines. For one thing I hate that hack public relations style writing. I won’t do it and my potential clients will know it up front.

I guess my greatest concern is one of those Dungeons and Dragons type zealots might eventually decide to pull some IRS/Spanish Inquisition investigation out of sheer boredom and the wheels come off. I don’t know how and if this happens. That’s why I’m posting here. I definitely find none of these answers on any other posts. Thanks again for any help!
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ebc123   Paid editing   Wed 8th December 2010, 8:08pm
thekohser   Welcome, new member. You'll want to read this...   Wed 8th December 2010, 9:20pm
melloden   Welcome, new member. You'll want to read thi...   Thu 9th December 2010, 2:49am
Cla68   I support paid editing of Wikipedia. As Greg has ...   Thu 9th December 2010, 4:58am
Somey   Never letting up a chance to spam your company, eh...   Thu 9th December 2010, 9:23am
Alison   Will you give me a dollar for every time Greg ref...   Thu 9th December 2010, 10:26am
thekohser   [quote name='thekohser' post='261357' date='Wed 8...   Thu 9th December 2010, 12:06pm
melloden   I see you joined WR only hours before ebc123, ye...   Fri 10th December 2010, 1:39am
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='thekohser' post='261357' date='Wed 8...   Thu 9th December 2010, 3:38pm
Text   http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/Snapper...   Thu 9th December 2010, 3:59pm
ebc123   I suppose it's to be expected on occasion that...   Thu 9th December 2010, 4:50pm
SB_Johnny   I suppose it's to be expected on occasion tha...   Thu 9th December 2010, 5:06pm
ebc123   Thanks SB Johnny for the reply and the welcome...   Thu 9th December 2010, 7:19pm
Somey   I still have these three questions that I'd be...   Thu 9th December 2010, 10:31pm
SB_Johnny   ... All it takes is one fella doing it the right...   Thu 9th December 2010, 11:02pm
SB_Johnny   Thanks SB Johnny for the reply and the welcome...   Thu 9th December 2010, 10:56pm
thekohser   Thanks SB Johnny for the reply and the welcome...   Fri 10th December 2010, 4:59am
Basil   Do not divulge a paid arrangement. Write articles...   Thu 9th December 2010, 10:17pm
EricBarbour   Do not divulge a paid arrangement. Write articles...   Thu 9th December 2010, 10:28pm
ebc123   Thanks for the information! As far as "A...   Thu 9th December 2010, 11:42pm
wikieyeay   Thanks for the information! As far as ...   Fri 10th December 2010, 12:11am
ebc123   Thanks everyone for the information! I've...   Fri 10th December 2010, 3:05am
melloden   Thanks everyone for the information! I'v...   Fri 10th December 2010, 3:55am
wikieyeay   Thanks everyone for the information! I...   Fri 10th December 2010, 1:38pm
ebc123   My apologies “thekoser.” Thanks for the welco...   Fri 10th December 2010, 4:31pm
thekohser   My apologies “thekoser.” Thanks for the welc...   Fri 10th December 2010, 8:50pm
melloden   Now, a question for you... How old are you, and ...   Sat 11th December 2010, 2:17am
wikieyeay   Now, a question for you... How old are you, and...   Sat 11th December 2010, 1:24pm
melloden   And personally, if he is a kid looking for extra ...   Sat 11th December 2010, 10:26pm
SB_Johnny   From my brief experience with children on the sit...   Sat 11th December 2010, 11:06pm
GlassBeadGame   And personally, if he is a kid looking for extra...   Sat 11th December 2010, 11:12pm
thekohser   I wonder if the Wikipediot community has noticed t...   Tue 14th December 2010, 4:36pm
thekohser   I wonder if the Wikipediot community has noticed ...   Fri 17th December 2010, 6:42pm
thekohser   Wait! They reveal some previous client ...   Fri 17th December 2010, 6:53pm
thekohser   Wait! They reveal some previous client ...   Fri 17th December 2010, 9:21pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='thekohser' post='262376' date='Fri 1...   Fri 17th December 2010, 9:49pm
tarantino   SqueakBox is mentioned yet again at AN/I for paid ...   Tue 28th December 2010, 2:36am
EricBarbour   SqueakBox is mentioned yet again at AN/I for paid ...   Tue 28th December 2010, 10:06pm
thekohser   SqueakBox is noted as one of the top "wipers...   Tue 28th December 2010, 3:42am
Kelly Martin   The secret to doing paid editing on Wikipedia is t...   Tue 28th December 2010, 2:59pm
Infomercial   The secret to doing paid editing on Wikipedia is ...   Tue 28th December 2010, 8:55pm
ebc123   >> I really don't like the idea of paid ...   Tue 4th January 2011, 5:10pm
thekohser   The notion then that a subject notable by definit...   Tue 4th January 2011, 5:43pm
Milton Roe   I have to say it... [b][size=3]Wikipedia: always...   Tue 4th January 2011, 7:49pm
thekohser   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Co...   Wed 5th January 2011, 2:59pm
Zoloft   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C...   Wed 5th January 2011, 3:47pm
thekohser   Their inability to pull the trigger on him is clea...   Thu 30th December 2010, 6:10pm
thekohser   Well, it looks like the Squeaker has finally been ...   Sun 2nd January 2011, 6:42pm
Somey   Well, it looks like the Squeaker has finally been ...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 8:30am
thekohser   What he seems to be saying is that rewards should...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 3:44pm
Somey   But, then, do you notice that Jimbo doesn't so...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 8:20pm
EricBarbour   [quote name='thekohser' post='263823' date='Mon 3r...   Tue 4th January 2011, 11:26am
Infomercial   What he seems to be saying is that rewards shoul...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 9:51pm
thekohser   Noted researcher Felipe Ortega is trying his hand ...   Tue 25th January 2011, 5:06pm
thekohser   Noted researcher Felipe Ortega is trying his hand...   Tue 25th January 2011, 6:44pm


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