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post Mon 3rd January 2011, 7:31pm
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Remember when Cirt said:
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accept that there has been significant criticism relating to my editing of certain pages relating to Scientology. I will do my best to take this criticism on-board, and adjust my future actions accordingly. To begin towards that process, I have gone ahead and removed 66 Scientology-related BLP pages from my watchlist. I am going to shift my focus away from this topic of Scientology in general, and of BLPs within this topic in particular.

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 01:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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Comment: As stated here diff, I am going to avoid editing within the topic of Scientology, unless directly related to prior GA and FA projects. -- Cirt (talk) 01:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, that was weeks ago, and in a different calendar year, so I guess it would be unreasonable of me to hold Cirt to those statements. What has Cirt been up to in the first few days of 2011?
  • voting "KEEP" on Scientology-related deletion discussion for Jenna Miscavige Hill
  • voting "KEEP" on Scientology-related deletion discussion for Exscientologykids.com
  • thanking someone for their work on an L Ron Hubbard book article
  • thanking someone for their work on an anti-CoS activist Jenna Miscavige Hill article
  • editing a Futurama episode dealing with "Robotology"
  • editing the BLP of an actor who did a spoof of Cirt's arch-enemy Tom Cruise
  • welcoming someone whose only recent edit (out of a total of two) is a supportive comment for Jenna Miscavige Hill on the talk page of their article
  • continuing a conversation on the talk page of an article about a former Scientologist who committed suicide years after leaving Scientology
  • supporting the renaming of a page about a Scientology-related medical clinic

Just about the only thing that Cirt did that isn't related to CoS is restoring a removed quote from a movie financed by the Moonies. I'm sure there is nothing wrong with having a highly negative review snippet in its own coloured box:
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"Empty-headed Korean war epic produced by Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church."
—Leonard Maltin[2]
I mean, that's pretty neutral, right? I'm going to add something similar to the Sound of Music and see what kind of reception I get.

Cirt's statements about staying away from CoS stuff seemed to work in that people backed off the ARBSCI enforcement, but if Cirt can't keep away from it by themselves, it may be time for an intervention.
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post Sat 12th February 2011, 5:40pm
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As much as Cirt's overt anti-Scientology POV-pushing galls me, I'm not sure that outing them is a great idea if those stories about the CoS harassing their enemies are to be believed.
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post Sat 12th February 2011, 6:24pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 12th February 2011, 1:40pm) *

As much as Cirt's overt anti-Scientology POV-pushing galls me, I'm not sure that outing them is a great idea if those stories about the CoS harassing their enemies are to be believed.

Goes without saying that I agree. Nevertheless I said it anyway. What a dick I am.
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post Sat 12th February 2011, 11:05pm
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QUOTE(Lar @ Sat 12th February 2011, 10:24am) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 12th February 2011, 1:40pm) *

As much as Cirt's overt anti-Scientology POV-pushing galls me, I'm not sure that outing them is a great idea if those stories about the CoS harassing their enemies are to be believed.

Goes without saying that I agree. Nevertheless I said it anyway. What a dick I am.
we at the Program and Catering Committee have no intention of outing the victorious contestant. We simply need to know whether we ought to refer to the victor as "he", "she", "them", or "it".
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sat 12th February 2011, 3:05pm) *

QUOTE(Lar @ Sat 12th February 2011, 10:24am) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 12th February 2011, 1:40pm) *

As much as Cirt's overt anti-Scientology POV-pushing galls me, I'm not sure that outing them is a great idea if those stories about the CoS harassing their enemies are to be believed.

Goes without saying that I agree. Nevertheless I said it anyway. What a dick I am.
we at the Program and Catering Committee have no intention of outing the victorious contestant. We simply need to know whether we ought to refer to the victor as "he", "she", "them", or "it".


You must not have remembered this thread after posting in it (or just felt sullied after the impression, Krusty, as you suggested you did). By the voice it seems pretty obvious that Cirt, being the operator of the account that uploaded the files, is male (unless he got someone else to do it). Either way, Tarantino has previously stated on this board that Cirt was a guy, and his research is usually quite trustworthy.

For the record, I personally agree that it's not useful to out Cirt, and it certainly doesn't contribute to any criticism of his actions on Wikipedia. Add to that Scientology's record of interaction with its critics being rather, shall I say, dubious, sometimes crossing the line into harassment. Goodness knows, we don't want that happening to Cirt, even if WR is largely not fond of him and/or thinks he is obsessing too much. I'd argue that his opinions of Scientology are correct, and he might have even been a victim of a cult at one time (Erhard's?), so it would be best to try not to become as obsessed over his WP behavior as he is about Scientology. Nevertheless, it seems that he is being overly assertive on labeling people as Scientologists when their connection is not that strong, and the WR threads about this are not unfairly targeting Cirt, IMO.
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QUOTE(Wikicrusher2 @ Sat 12th February 2011, 5:07pm) *

You must not have remembered this thread after posting in it (or just felt sullied after the impression, Krusty, as you suggested you did). By the voice it seems pretty obvious that Cirt, being the operator of the account that uploaded the files, is male (unless he got someone else to do it). Either way, Tarantino has previously stated on this board that Cirt was a guy, and his research is usually quite trustworthy.

Why would a guy pick out a name like Smeelgova for themselves? If you know enough Russian to do the end, you're likely to do it right.

Besides, there was something about way SV was sucked into Smee and its hysterics about being in personal danger from the nasty CoS, and the way Cirt skillfully used that. If Cirt's a guy, let's just say he's not likely to win the Cojones de Laton. hrmph.gif
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carbuncle   Let's check in on the reformed Cirt   Mon 3rd January 2011, 7:31pm
Silver seren   ...okay, the first two and the last two, yes, but ...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 7:39pm
carbuncle   ...okay, the first two and the last two, yes, but...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 7:59pm
taiwopanfob   ...okay, the first two and the last two, yes, but...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 8:06pm
thekohser   Rather than editing articles on mollusks or somet...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 8:52pm
Herschelkrustofsky   ...okay, the first two and the last two, yes, bu...   Sat 12th February 2011, 5:55am
wikieyeay   ...okay, the first two and the last two, yes, but...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 9:29pm
HRIP7   [quote name='Silver seren' post='263869' date='Mo...   Thu 6th January 2011, 5:57am
lilburne   You missed a couple it helps if one can poison the...   Mon 3rd January 2011, 8:50pm
Herschelkrustofsky   Kudos to Carbuncle for the amusing thread title.   Mon 3rd January 2011, 9:42pm
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Herschelkrustofsky   Everybody's all worked up about this now. The ...   Tue 4th January 2011, 12:09am
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