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 Mon 31st January 2011, 2:44am
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 30th January 2011, 1:11pm)  The pile of receipts in my wallet is an organized collection of information. Must be nice. Mine never are until I take them out and organize them... |
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Mon 31st January 2011, 2:48am
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"His blandness goes to 11!" Group: Regulars Posts: 2,116 Joined: Wed 26th Dec 2007, 6:04pm From: A large LEGO storage facility Member No.: 4,290 |
QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 30th January 2011, 5:31pm) QUOTE(Silver seren @ Sun 30th January 2011, 12:32pm) I still feel that the best way to lessen vandalism is to require an account to edit. True, it wouldn't get rid of all of it, but it would probably deter a good chunk. More specifically, to require an account that was connected to your validated RL identity. That'll put a stop to the Mantanmorelands of the world and would also serve to curb rabid inclusionists (such as yourself) from adding all sorts of garbage to BLPs. Needful. So it will never happen. It's not the Wikipedia Way ™. |
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Mon 31st January 2011, 9:26am
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 Could you run through Verifiability not Truth once more? Group: Members Posts: 2,972 Joined: Tue 4th Dec 2007, 12:42am From: The Midlands Member No.: 4,015 |
All these lists are simply workarounds to the lack of any proper indexing system on Wikipedia. It is really rather appalling that no solution has been found other than a hack and Google.
For example, the way many other systems solve the problem is by having a keywords field. The advantage is that trivial links, such as mentioned above can be annotated without the link itself becoming dominant. The other advantage of keywords is that it introduces a whole new battleground, so I really can't understand why people haven't fought for it to be introduced. Bots can be sent rampaging over such a new field. New markups can be added to identify keywords as you edit. Think of the policy battles. Think of the edit wars over American or British spelling of keywords. Think of the defamation of a carefully chosen keyword dropped into selected articles. If there is a single example of how useless the management of Wikipedia is, it is the failure to provide that most obvious of encyclopedic functions: a useful index, remembering that there is a big difference between a Google search, hyperlinks and indexing. |
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Mon 31st January 2011, 10:16am
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 Chameleon Group: Contributors Posts: 890 Joined: Thu 17th Jun 2010, 11:42am Member No.: 21,803 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Mon 31st January 2011, 9:26am) The problem is that the lists are mostly there because the OCDers have been told they can't use categories, which are a form of tagging, the lists are a work around for that. They seem to be blissfully unaware that tagging or listing outside of wikipedia is frowned on. For example anyone going through flickr accounts and tagging photos of people as Jewish, Mexican, HIV positive, or Muslim, would find flickr terminating the account for being 'creepy' in double quick time. In reality the lists show the preoccupation of OCDers in the early 21st century more than anything else. |
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