If you owned Wikipedia, what would you do with it Options

[Peter Damian]

Picking up on something Eva said here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Iri...12#Wikipedia_II which has affinities with some of the stuff what was discussed here http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=267006

[thekohser]

Eva's a bit delusional, though:

In spite of the godawful name and Greg's occasional bursts of spectacular obnoxiousness holding it back, in some ways I think MWB could be the shape of things to come. The Mainspace/Directoryspace divide clearly separates NPOV articles from spam-pieces while allowing the two to co-exist peacefully and borrow appropriate material from each other, and I think it's actually done a fine job in taking the best of Wikipedia's model (which, even in its terminal decline, does have a lot of strengths) while identifying and eliminating the systemic weaknesses which are killing Wikipedia (domination by cliques, vocal fringes dominating a silent majority in the middle, massive social inertia, an inability to control social networking, systemic failure of the article assessment processes, the cult of anti-expertism, the obsession with "civility" beyond any reasonable limit, a self-appointing and self-policing hierarchy...). If Greg changed the name, relinquished most or all of his control to a committee which wasn't selected to agree with him (I think a committee including Alison, Durova, Malleus, Moni, yourself and Shankbone, for instance, would do a fine job at covering the significant bases while avoiding personalities so toxic that debate is impossible), was willing to import content from Wikipedia under GFDL, and managed to get a "name" industry backer (Apple, Cisco or the like), I wouldn't be surprised to see MWB overtake Wikipedia within two years.

[Eva Destruction]

Eva's a bit delusional, though:

In spite of the godawful name and Greg's occasional bursts of spectacular obnoxiousness holding it back, in some ways I think MWB could be the shape of things to come. The Mainspace/Directoryspace divide clearly separates NPOV articles from spam-pieces while allowing the two to co-exist peacefully and borrow appropriate material from each other, and I think it's actually done a fine job in taking the best of Wikipedia's model (which, even in its terminal decline, does have a lot of strengths) while identifying and eliminating the systemic weaknesses which are killing Wikipedia (domination by cliques, vocal fringes dominating a silent majority in the middle, massive social inertia, an inability to control social networking, systemic failure of the article assessment processes, the cult of anti-expertism, the obsession with "civility" beyond any reasonable limit, a self-appointing and self-policing hierarchy...). If Greg changed the name, relinquished most or all of his control to a committee which wasn't selected to agree with him (I think a committee including Alison, Durova, Malleus, Moni, yourself and Shankbone, for instance, would do a fine job at covering the significant bases while avoiding personalities so toxic that debate is impossible), was willing to import content from Wikipedia under GFDL, and managed to get a "name" industry backer (Apple, Cisco or the like), I wouldn't be surprised to see MWB overtake Wikipedia within two years.

A lot of big ifs there, but in the unlikely event Steve Jobs came knocking, I stand by that statement. MWB has some glaring faults, but I give you full credit for being the first to solve the "how to allow spam while maintaining a neutral point of view in important areas" problem which confounded both Wikipedia and Larrypedia, Britannica, Knol et al for the last ten years.

[thekohser]

A lot of big ifs there, but in the unlikely event Steve Jobs came knocking, I stand by that statement. MWB has some glaring faults, but I give you full credit for being the first to solve the "how to allow spam while maintaining a neutral point of view in important areas" problem which confounded both Wikipedia and Larrypedia, Britannica, Knol et al for the last ten years.

Well, then you should dash off a note to Karl Nagel. He's the one who created Centiare.com, which is pretty much the exact platform that the current Wikipedia Review.com resides upon, once I acquired the Centiare.com platform from him when he chose to give up on it. I had nothing to do with "solving" the problem you speak of. I just thought the solution was a really good idea, and I was willing to market it for a year.