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post Fri 25th February 2011, 4:54am
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So, if anyone's interested, the issue of the Japanese loli mascot has come up again. Started off with an MfD on a joke-ish "think of the children" page; Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Think of Wikipe-tan! (T-H-L-K-D), spilled into ANI, attempts to remove its usage from everywhere, etc...
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post Fri 25th February 2011, 5:18am
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This has been discussed a lot recently, especially in connection with the sexism issue, but if you want to know what it's really about, you can think of it as the Wikipediot analogue of Joe Camel.

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post Fri 25th February 2011, 5:54am
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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Fri 25th February 2011, 12:18am) *

This has been discussed a lot recently, especially in connection with the sexism issue, but if you want to know what it's really about, you can think of it as the Wikipediot analogue of Joe Camel.

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Oh, I guess it was on Facebook that we were having the big discussion of Wikipe-tan.

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I don't know if this will work, but here is the link to the Facebook thread.

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post Fri 25th February 2011, 6:20am
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One of the more plaintive threads on the GG list is here.

The Wikipediot answer? Replace Wikipe-tan with Puzzly.

No kidding …

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post Fri 25th February 2011, 6:26am
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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Thu 24th February 2011, 9:54pm) *
I don't know if this will work, but here is the link to the Facebook thread.

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I just love this kind of crap. Better than TV.
Good luck convincing the basement dwellers, Tarc......
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* Delete - The Wikipe-tan concept itself is just a product of undersexed basement-dwellers. Whether the page version is the slutty one or the sanitized one, it just has no relevance or purpose in regards to the project. I like smut as much as the next guy, or girl, but this whole thing is just retarded. Tarc (talk) 16:57, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for attacking wikipedia's mascot and those who support it, I find what you type offensive and by your reasoning it sounds like you are against having wikipe-tan on wikipedia nevermind just this page. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Heh, this sexualized, pre-pubescent anime tartlet is most certainly not the Wikipedia mascot, despite what some may have tried many years ago. And yes, I oppose the usage of this...thing anywhere. Tarc (talk) 17:17, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Whether or not you accept it, she's still an unoffiical mascot and has been acknowledged as such.陣内Jinnai 17:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Um, that's the key here; unofficial. The point is that this thing is recognized/utilized by, at best, a tiny subset of Wikipdia users. You act like it is some universally-recognized Mickey Mouse-like character, worldly synonymous with the Wikipedia. Trust me bro, it ain't. About the only non-Wikipedia mention I have ever seen of this thing is the Encyclopedia Dramatica satirization. And if you have never been there or seen it, trust me; you Wikipe-tan otaku are not being portrayed in a favorable light. Tarc (talk) 17:49, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan lists a few more places than you know. I'm sure there are more. Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 陣内Jinnai 18:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Agreed wikipe-tan is featured in templates, official guideline pages, and other areas of wiki, she has become part of wikipedia over the years. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

You two can keep the red herrings flying away and missing the point if you wish. Keep your little Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan page and WikiProject figureheads for now...those can be the subject of another discussion if someone wishes; but THIS particular Think of... article is just over the top and does not belong in the main Wikipedia: space. It's a dumb in-joke for a select few fanboys, a riff of the old think of the children line. Tarc (talk) 20:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Thu 24th February 2011, 9:54pm) *

I don't know if this will work, but here is the link to the Facebook thread.

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It won't, and it's set to 'Friends-only' (that's my Facebook page link). I don't think Mark Zuckerberg lets you retro-public a thread. I tried to but I can't unhappy.gif but feel free to repost bits out of it here, tho' ...
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post Fri 25th February 2011, 9:45am
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QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 25th February 2011, 8:23am) *

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Thu 24th February 2011, 9:54pm) *

I don't know if this will work, but here is the link to the Facebook thread.

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It won't, and it's set to 'Friends-only' (that's my Facebook page link). I don't think Mark Zuckerberg lets you retro-public a thread. I tried to but I can't unhappy.gif but feel free to repost bits out of it here, tho' ...


This is my favorite part of that discussion :

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drawings of "Wikipe-tan" on Commons, which managed to survive a deletion request until Jimbo stepped in and deleted it himself. (A sort of harbinger to the later porn wars on Commons.) One of the most enthusiastic "keep" voters there was an admin on enwiki who was later banned for pro-pedophilia sockpuppetry, as I recall.
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Barry Kort Citation, hell.

They need a Summons.

I was gonna suggest a Good Spanking, too, but they'd probably get all excited at that prospect.
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Barry always hits the nail right on the head!
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post Fri 25th February 2011, 2:56pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 25th February 2011, 1:26am) *
I just love this kind of crap. Better than TV.
Good luck convincing the basement dwellers, Tarc......


There are a few that sure do have their hackles up over this. They're having a discussion over at the anime-manga project page about what to do, and one of the possibilities gaining traction is to crate a male -tan counterpart. rolleyes.gif

There's a few different issues in all this that have unfortunately gotten all mixed in with each other. Wikipe-tan in project space and Wikipe-tan in article-space. The former should be a no-brainer, esp the "think of..." riff.

It's a funny position to be in since I actually happen to like a great deal of anime.

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post Fri 25th February 2011, 3:04pm
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 25th February 2011, 9:56am) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 25th February 2011, 1:26am) *

I just love this kind of crap. Better than TV.
Good luck convincing the basement dwellers, Tarc ……


There are a few that sure do have their hackles up over this. They're having a discussion over at the anime-manga project page about what to do, and one of the possibilities gaining traction is to crate a male -tan counterpart. rolleyes.gif

There's a few different issues in all this that have unfortunately gotten all mixed in with each other. Wikipe-tan in project space and Wikipe-tan in article-space. The former should be a no-brainer, esp the "think of…" riff.

It's a funny position to be in since I actually happen to like a great deal of anime.


Which part is in the Non-501(‍c‍)(‍3‍) Adult Educational Public Charity space?

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post Fri 25th February 2011, 3:07pm
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 25th February 2011, 6:56am) *
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 25th February 2011, 1:26am) *
I just love this kind of crap. Better than TV.
Good luck convincing the basement dwellers, Tarc......

There are a few that sure do have their hackles up over this. They're having a discussion over at the anime-manga project page about what to do, and one of the possibilities gaining traction is to crate a male -tan counterpart. rolleyes.gif

There's a few different issues in all this that have unfortunately gotten all mixed in with each other. Wikipe-tan in project space and Wikipe-tan in article-space. The former should be a no-brainer, esp the "think of..." riff.

It's a funny position to be in since I actually happen to like a great deal of anime.

Perhaps we should at some point compare Wikipedia to Death Note.

I feel that having Wikipe-tan as a mascot, if she's appropriately portrayed, is much better than using 'Wikipede'.
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I can hardly do much better on this issue than quoting these words of wisdom from Jonny Cache:

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The issue for me is not censorship, or else I'd personally be choosing to err on the side of the ACLU if I had to err at all. The issues are things like Hostile Work Environment, Child Labor, Truth In Advertising, and the Definition of an Encyclopedia. I believe in the maximum rational freedom of artistic expression and scientific inquiry. That means we have to tolerate all sorts of crap in the world, but it doesn't mean you can have your favorite e-rotica as your screen-saver at work, it doesn't mean you can experiment on undergraduates without going through proper channels, and it doesn't mean you can e-tice children “volunteers” to work into the early AM with who knows, or who cares, what kinds of adult “volunteers” on your tax-advantaged “charity” project for free.

— Jonny Cache • February 15 (9:54 am)


Wikipe-tan is WP:Joe Camel. It has to do with grooming youngsters to Wikipedia Kultur. It's a little bit of sexism but a whole lot of child endangerment. Responsible adults understand that. Wikipediots do not.

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QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 25th February 2011, 9:56am) *

...one of the possibilities gaining traction is to crate a male -tan counterpart. rolleyes.gif


If they do that, then they're going to need a futanari-tan counter-counterpart!
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post Sat 26th February 2011, 5:15am
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i, for one, would like to see images of wikipetan being groped and molested. preferably while using public transit.

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QUOTE(Zoloft @ Fri 25th February 2011, 7:07am) *
Perhaps we should at some point compare Wikipedia to Death Note.
I was thinking more along the lines of Gantz.

That's how it works. You ass belongs to Wikipedia, so shut up and fight for survival.
Don't ask questions, there are no answers.

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i, for one, would like to see images of wikipetan being groped and molested. preferably while using public transit.
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This is pretty good.

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No ideas for Citizen-tan, Verope-tan, MyWiki-tan?

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QUOTE(Text @ Sat 26th February 2011, 6:05am) *

No ideas for ... MyWiki-tan?


Most of our active editors are grown-ups who (as far as I know) don't get a kick out of pre-pubescent cartoon fetishes.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Sat 26th February 2011, 11:18am) *

QUOTE(Text @ Sat 26th February 2011, 6:05am) *

No ideas for ... MyWiki-tan?


Most of our active editors are grown-ups who (as far as I know) don't get a kick out of pre-pubescent cartoon fetishes.

Speak for yourself. Besides wikipe-tan told me she was 18 (14 in some jurisdictions, like Idaho). What am I supposed to do, check IDs?

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Most of our active editors are grown-ups who (as far as I know) don't get a kick out of pre-pubescent cartoon fetishes.


It's a possile reason why the Wikipede (which is the actual official mascot for wikipedia as voted in 2006) isn't considered at all by most wikipediots. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipede

Japan takes things from the Western way of life and turbocharges them. In 1543 the first European firearms were introduced to a small japanese island, and a year later the skilled swordsmiths managed to replicate the guns, making them even better, and creating new styles of advanced warfare.

In 2000 and beyond they have cities bigger than some on the american counterparts, developing a rich culture with advanced technology, and yet they sell used schoolgirl panties through vending machines, and have inserted weird concepts in everyday comics and even normal objects.

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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Thu 24th February 2011, 11:54pm) *

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Fri 25th February 2011, 12:18am) *

This has been discussed a lot recently, especially in connection with the sexism issue, but if you want to know what it's really about, you can think of it as the Wikipediot analogue of Joe Camel.

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Oh, I guess it was on Facebook that we were having the big discussion of Wikipe-tan.

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I don't know if this will work, but here is the link to the Facebook thread.

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WARNING: NOT SAFE FOR WORK

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