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> World's foremost WP & WMF critics
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Who is the world's foremost critic of Wikipedia?
Jon Awbrey [ 2 ] ** [4.76%]
Daniel Brandt [ 5 ] ** [11.90%]
Stephen Colbert [ 5 ] ** [11.90%]
Seth Finkelstein [ 2 ] ** [4.76%]
Joe Hazelton [ 1 ] ** [2.38%]
Carl Hewitt [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Oliver Kamm [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Andrew Keen [ 3 ] ** [7.14%]
Gregory Kohs [ 4 ] ** [9.52%]
Barry Kort [ 3 ] ** [7.14%]
Jaron Lanier [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Rachel Marsden [ 1 ] ** [2.38%]
Kelly Martin [ 4 ] ** [9.52%]
Cade Metz [ 1 ] ** [2.38%]
Larry Sanger [ 8 ] ** [19.05%]
Stacy Schiff [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
John Seigenthaler [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Owen Thomas [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Other not listed (please cite your selection in a post) [ 3 ] ** [7.14%]
Who is the world's foremost critic of the Wikimedia Foundation?
Jon Awbrey [ 1 ] ** [2.38%]
Daniel Brandt [ 6 ] ** [14.29%]
Stephen Colbert [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Seth Finkelstein [ 11 ] ** [26.19%]
Joe Hazelton [ 1 ] ** [2.38%]
Carl Hewitt [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Oliver Kamm [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Andrew Keen [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Gregory Kohs [ 13 ] ** [30.95%]
Barry Kort [ 2 ] ** [4.76%]
Jaron Lanier [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Rachel Marsden [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Kelly Martin [ 1 ] ** [2.38%]
Cade Metz [ 1 ] ** [2.38%]
Larry Sanger [ 2 ] ** [4.76%]
Stacy Schiff [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
John Seigenthaler [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Owen Thomas [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Other not listed (please cite your selection in a post) [ 4 ] ** [9.52%]
Total Votes: 84
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thekohser
post Thu 24th March 2011, 4:34pm
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Note that there are two questions in this poll. One about critics of Wikipedia, and the other about critics of the Wikimedia Foundation.

Note that "foremost" could be described as the "most famous person" who criticizes Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation. Or, "foremost" could be described as the "most dedicated critic", regardless of fame. Or, it could easily be described as the "most effective or influential critic". How you choose is up to you.

The voting will remain open until the end of Sunday, April 3, 2001.
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post Thu 24th March 2011, 5:27pm
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We're off to a bad start insofar as people are not citing their "other" selections in a post.
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post Thu 24th March 2011, 5:51pm
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Hazelton? Lulz. That's like looking at a list of famous scientists and seeing "Billy, built s paper mache volcano for the 5th grade science fair" in between Newton and Einstein.

You might as well list Jaraxle and Willy, if the bar is set so low.

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post Thu 24th March 2011, 5:54pm
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 24th March 2011, 1:27pm) *

We're off to a bad start insofar as people are not citing their "other" selections in a post.

That's probably some statistician in London. It's an outlier... at least until his other accounts get a chance to sign in and vote. For obvious reasons, he can't cite who his "other" choice would be.
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Isn't using the qualifier "best of this group" perhaps a little better than asking for the "World's foremost"? Surely that would be the only way most people can honestly vote, the world being a big place and not quite yet 100% internet/Wikipedia friendly, alas. Some links and tips would be useful at least, followed by the 'vote' at the end of the digestion period. We all know Gregory Kohs of course, but to vote for the bestest 'in the world' you have to have knowledge of the whole field surely.

Unfortunately I think many new people to WR could think this poll is tongue in cheek. (though regulars will know it is serious of course).

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post Thu 24th March 2011, 9:02pm
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QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Thu 24th March 2011, 4:20pm) *

Isn't using the qualifier "best of this group" perhaps a little better than asking for the "World's foremost"? Surely that would be the only way most people can honestly vote, the world being a big place and not quite yet 100% internet/Wikipedia friendly, alas. Some links and tips would be useful at least, followed by the 'vote' at the end of the digestion period. We all know Gregory Kohs of course, but to vote for the bestest 'in the world' you have to have knowledge of the whole field surely.

Unfortunately I think many new people to WR could think this poll is tongue in cheek. (though regulars will know it is serious of course).

I disagree with just about every trifling comment you just made. Why do you need "links and tips"? The whole Internet is out there, waiting to answer any of the questions you might have about any of these leading critics. If you feel that a particularly strong candidate was left out of the mix, open your mouth. Man, you are annoying, Mike.
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post Thu 24th March 2011, 11:12pm
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Isn't there a category for the cockiest critic of the WP and Wikipedia Mother Fuckers?

That is what WMF stands for, init?
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post Fri 25th March 2011, 4:44pm
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Only 14 people have voted? This site must be dying.
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post Fri 25th March 2011, 9:01pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 24th March 2011, 4:34pm) *


The voting will remain open until the end of Sunday, April 3, 2001.


QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 25th March 2011, 4:44pm) *

Only 14 people have voted? This site must be dying.


It's over 30 people now. Maybe the others missed the cut off date for voting? Luckily, I have a handy time machine. (I voted for you)
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QUOTE(DollyD @ Fri 25th March 2011, 9:01pm) *

It's over 30 people now. Maybe the others missed the cut off date for voting? Luckily, I have a handy time machine. (I voted for you)

Everyone gets two votes so only half as many people have voted as you think.

The trouble with this poll is that few people here know about the extremely eminent people who have complained to the WMF and Jimbo personally, and who voice their complaints to their peers. By some criteria they are far foremore (sic) than anyone listed here, but as they have not gone onto the Internet with their views, they are 9as far as the average WR| punter knows) non-existent.

Nor is there any way to vote in one half and abstain in the other, as there was in the Dick of Distinction poll. Of course, HK is a dab hand at designing survey questionnaires.


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post Fri 25th March 2011, 9:38pm
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QUOTE(Detective @ Fri 25th March 2011, 5:30pm) *

he trouble with this poll is that few people here know about the extremely eminent people who have complained to the WMF and Jimbo personally, and who voice their complaints to their peers. By some criteria they are far foremore (sic) than anyone listed here.


Do tell, Detective! Or, are you just speculating? "Extremely eminent"? That sounds like maybe someone high up in government, like Dr. Charles Gutteridge or someone like that?
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 25th March 2011, 9:38pm) *

Do tell, Detective! Or, are you just speculating? "Extremely eminent"? That sounds like maybe someone high up in government, like Dr. Charles Gutteridge or someone like that?

No, I'm not speculating. Nor am I stupid enough to betray my sources by revealing names.
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post Fri 25th March 2011, 10:31pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 25th March 2011, 4:44pm) *

Only 14 people have voted? This site must be dying.


Or there are a lot of people studiously researching all available media and historical databases because someone - perhaps absentmindedly, if we are to be generous - required people to name the World's (is that a proper noun, and if so what constitutes "the World"?) foremost WP & WMF critics... It is a tall order. It may have been easier if the question was posed as, "who out of the following individuals, who have been referenced within these pages recently, do you believe are the foremost WP & WMF critic", but instead we must determine who is and note accordingly.

I can't be bothered, and am pretty certain that I am on ignore on a lot of peoples options, but I may have opined a vote for... Kelly; but only because it might wind her up (and I think she was rude to me, once, long ago, about something.) However, since it is not about simple belief and preference my opinion must remain unknown.
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QUOTE(Detective @ Fri 25th March 2011, 9:30pm) *

QUOTE(DollyD @ Fri 25th March 2011, 9:01pm) *

It's over 30 people now. Maybe the others missed the cut off date for voting? Luckily, I have a handy time machine. (I voted for you)

Everyone gets two votes so only half as many people have voted as you think.



Ah, yes. I see that now.
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post Sat 26th March 2011, 1:21am
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QUOTE(Detective @ Fri 25th March 2011, 9:30pm) *
Nor is there any way to vote in one half and abstain in the other, as there was in the Dick of Distinction poll. Of course, HK is a dab hand at designing survey questionnaires.

There could have been a better turn out if the category was Cock of Distinction.
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We should of course have had a preliminary discussion where people could have suggested names. For example, Mr Kohs would doubtless have wished to draw attention to this important thread, which clearly refers to a critic of major significance. Or don't German critics count?
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QUOTE(Gruntled @ Sat 26th March 2011, 10:09pm) *

We should of course have had a preliminary discussion where people could have suggested names. For example, Mr Kohs would doubtless have wished to draw attention to this important thread, which clearly refers to a critic of major significance. Or don't German critics count?

Hey Mikey, shut the actual fuck up already. dry.gif
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post Sun 27th March 2011, 2:35am
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QUOTE(Gruntled @ Sat 26th March 2011, 6:09pm) *

We should of course have had a preliminary discussion where people could have suggested names.


Well, "we" did have a preliminary discussion, for a couple of days. Maybe you didn't see it.
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I notice Danny Wool was for some reason omitted from foremost critic of the WMF. Pity, I think he's have stopped the Gregory Kohs self-glorification train in its tracks.


Greg is one of the most persistent critics of the WMF, but unlike Wool, he's yet to land a punch. They actually had to put out press releases disputing Wool's allegations.
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post Sun 27th March 2011, 9:13am
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 27th March 2011, 2:35am) *

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We should of course have had a preliminary discussion where people could have suggested names.

Well, "we" did have a preliminary discussion, for a couple of days. Maybe you didn't see it.

I have no doubt that you, "Charlotte", Timothy and the rest of the Cabal had a secret converstion from which most people were excluded. I'm contrasting that with the way HK runs the "Dick of Distinction" vote, where people aren't excluded.

QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Sun 27th March 2011, 8:49am) *

I notice Danny Wool was for some reason omitted from foremost critic of the WMF. Pity, I think he's have stopped the Gregory Kohs self-glorification train in its tracks.

Oh dear, Mike! No doubt Greg and "Charlotte" will swiftly tell you off for saying that and accuse you of being Lilburne or Zoloft.
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