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> The myth of reference sources
thekohser
post Tue 7th June 2011, 3:28pm
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A recent study proves what most of us here knew all along. For all of the hype about how Wikipedia is more and more reliable thanks to the reference sources that pepper its articles, when it comes right down to it, even college students are oblivious to what the references are actually pointing to when they evaluate the credibility of a Wikipedia article.

(Thankfully, as a paid editor, I can sometimes use this to my advantage... puffing out references that are barely relevant to what is claimed in the article. But if that's what it takes to make the content stick, so be it.)

(It's also a nifty trick to get vandalism to hold in place.)

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post Tue 16th August 2011, 7:34pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 7th June 2011, 5:28pm) *

A recent study proves what most of us here knew all along. For all of the hype about how Wikipedia is more and more reliable thanks to the reference sources that pepper its articles, when it comes right down to it, even college students are oblivious to what the references are actually pointing to when they evaluate the credibility of a Wikipedia article.

(Thankfully, as a paid editor, I can sometimes use this to my advantage... puffing out references that are barely relevant to what is claimed in the article. But if that's what it takes to make the content stick, so be it.)

(It's also a nifty trick to get vandalism to hold in place.)


You might find that the CC visual images influence text content credibility as much as or maybe even more so than the reference citations. If it was not for the State of Florida where WP's servers are located, and which is the only place in the world where CC licensed images have legal validity, I doubt if WP would be as seemingly credible as it is among some students.
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If it was not for the State of Florida where WP's servers are located, and which is the only place in the world where CC licensed images have legal validity...


I'm probably going to regret asking, but what in the world are you talking about there?
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post Tue 16th August 2011, 10:41pm
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If it was not for the State of Florida where WP's servers are located, and which is the only place in the world where CC licensed images have legal validity...


I'm probably going to regret asking, but what in the world are you talking about there?


I'm saying a picture speaks a thousand words of credibility, more so than even copious references. WP probably wouldn't have come into existence were it not for its free access to countless CC visuals protected by a very liberal legal interpretation of copyright, courtesy State of Florida laws. Without those visuals (and those laws) a lot of WP articles would probably have no credibility at all, seeing as students apparently don't rely on quality of sourcing when it comes to judging credibility of an article.

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QUOTE(communicat @ Tue 16th August 2011, 6:41pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 16th August 2011, 10:59pm) *

QUOTE(communicat @ Tue 16th August 2011, 3:34pm) *

If it was not for the State of Florida where WP's servers are located, and which is the only place in the world where CC licensed images have legal validity...


I'm probably going to regret asking, but what in the world are you talking about there?


I'm saying a picture speaks a thousand words of credibility, more so than even copious references. WP probably wouldn't have come into existence were it not for its free access to countless CC visuals protected by a very liberal legal interpretation of copyright, courtesy State of Florida laws. Without those visuals (and those laws) a lot of WP articles would probably have no credibility at all, seeing as students apparently don't rely on quality of sourcing when it comes to judging credibility of an article.


So, you're saying that Wikipedia would not have been protected in the 49 other states than Florida?

I think you have completely missed the reason why Wikipedia was set up in Florida -- two words, Brian Dowling.

I'm going to start dismissing a lot of what you say, "communicat", because you're just speaking your vague opinions as fact, without any basis in fact.

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thekohser   The myth of reference sources   Tue 7th June 2011, 3:28pm
Abd   I just saw a reverse effect, where sourcing was in...   Tue 7th June 2011, 6:15pm
EricBarbour   Welcome to the future of Wikipedia, where no longe...   Wed 8th June 2011, 1:52am
melloden   Now guess who quits?   Mon 4th July 2011, 7:22pm
MZMcBride   Nope, this will only lead to Wikipedia being blown...   Mon 4th July 2011, 7:33pm
lilburne   Nope, this will only lead to Wikipedia being blow...   Mon 4th July 2011, 7:52pm
EricBarbour   Nope, this will only lead to Wikipedia being blow...   Mon 4th July 2011, 8:47pm
Abd   Ah, the crap I stumble across, I should watch wher...   Tue 7th June 2011, 7:22pm
melloden   Ah, the crap I stumble across, I should watch whe...   Tue 7th June 2011, 7:38pm
Abd   A typical dumbass child Wikipedian who obviously h...   Tue 7th June 2011, 8:02pm
melloden   A typical dumbass child Wikipedian who obviously ...   Tue 7th June 2011, 11:49pm
Abd   Child, but possibly a pedo pretending to be a clue...   Wed 8th June 2011, 1:06am
melloden   Ah, the crap I stumble across, I should watch whe...   Tue 7th June 2011, 7:43pm
Unrepentant Vandal   You just hounded him off, congrats   Mon 4th July 2011, 8:25pm
melloden   You just hounded him off, congrats Yes, yes, co...   Mon 4th July 2011, 8:42pm
Abd   You just hounded him off, congratsYes, yes, congra...   Tue 5th July 2011, 12:31am
DoctorHver   Wikipedia don't even know when credible source...   Sun 10th July 2011, 9:20pm
Abd   Wikipedia don't even know when credible sourc...   Mon 11th July 2011, 3:00am
DoctorHver   DoctorHver, I don't know how to break it to y...   Mon 11th July 2011, 12:40pm
Abd   Warning: this is a complete waste of time, and it...   Mon 11th July 2011, 3:20pm
communicat   [quote name='thekohser' post='283218' date='Tue ...   Wed 17th August 2011, 3:12pm
thekohser   I'm saying that, in my limited understanding,...   Wed 17th August 2011, 4:36pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='283255' date='Wed ...   Wed 17th August 2011, 7:16pm
Vigilant   [quote name='communicat' post='283255' date='Wed...   Thu 18th August 2011, 1:05am
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='283266' date='Wed ...   Thu 18th August 2011, 3:21pm
Vigilant   [quote name='communicat' post='283266' date='Wed...   Thu 18th August 2011, 3:29pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='283321' date='Thu ...   Thu 18th August 2011, 4:31pm
thekohser   Sure, I have no idea how copyright works in every...   Thu 18th August 2011, 8:49pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='283324' date='Thu ...   Fri 19th August 2011, 3:02pm
thekohser   You may have noticed the topic here is titled The...   Fri 19th August 2011, 3:43pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='283388' date='Fri ...   Fri 19th August 2011, 5:20pm
KD Tries Again   Copyright is a very complex and convoluted subjec...   Tue 23rd August 2011, 5:53pm
Milton Roe   Sure, I have no idea how copyright works in every...   Thu 18th August 2011, 11:47pm
melloden   Sure, I have no idea how copyright works in ever...   Fri 19th August 2011, 12:07am
communicat   Sure, I have no idea how copyright works in ever...   Sun 21st August 2011, 8:30pm
thekohser   My confusion arose basically from the wikipedia e...   Sun 21st August 2011, 11:40pm
thekohser   What a rude feller you are in fact. But never min...   Thu 18th August 2011, 2:46am
communicat   What a rude feller you are in fact. But never mi...   Thu 18th August 2011, 3:04pm
lilburne   Far as I know the only place that CC licenses have...   Tue 16th August 2011, 11:15pm
communicat   Far as I know the only place that CC licenses hav...   Wed 17th August 2011, 12:48pm
lilburne   Far as I know the only place that CC licenses ha...   Wed 17th August 2011, 3:49pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='283247' date='Wed ...   Wed 17th August 2011, 6:48pm
thekohser   ...there is virtually no such thing as "copy...   Wed 17th August 2011, 7:08pm
lilburne   [quote name='lilburne' post='283256' date='Wed 17...   Wed 17th August 2011, 11:09pm
communicat   [quote name='lilburne' post='283256' date='Wed 1...   Thu 18th August 2011, 2:39pm
EricBarbour   You guys wanna see a massive pile of possible trad...   Fri 19th August 2011, 1:31am


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