And now we have an RFC, and what's more, an ArbCom case Options

[Kelly Martin]

(Do you realize that the number of RFAs per month is now the lowest that Wikipedia has ever seen?
It's even lower than back in 2002, when every one of them was approved by Wales himself.)

Yet more evidence that Wikipedia is dying. No wonder they're all running around trying to drum up participation.

[EricBarbour]

(Do you realize that the number of RFAs per month is now the lowest that Wikipedia has ever seen?
It's even lower than back in 2002, when every one of them was approved by Wales himself.)

Yet more evidence that Wikipedia is dying. No wonder they're all running around trying to drum up participation.

Yes, and they're trying to make the statistics lie--by generating stubs using bots.
Blofeld is on another of his insane stub-benders, this time of German geographical features.
Trust me, most of these stubs will never be expanded.

They're fooling the donors. And the donors are swallowing it whole.

[lilburne]

(Do you realize that the number of RFAs per month is now the lowest that Wikipedia has ever seen?
It's even lower than back in 2002, when every one of them was approved by Wales himself.)

Yet more evidence that Wikipedia is dying. No wonder they're all running around trying to drum up participation.

Yes, and they're trying to make the statistics lie--by generating stubs using bots.
Blofeld is on another of his insane stub-benders, this time of German geographical features.
Trust me, most of these stubs will never be expanded.

They're fooling the donors. And the donors are swallowing it whole.

The stub isn't in English either.

This post has been edited by lilburne: Sun 11th September 2011, 9:26am

[mbz1]

Were I the arbs, or the clerk, I would not grant him any extra time given that he only bothered to object when he found himself surprisingly losing a battle he thought he could win by simply staying silent.

Pursuant to the above mentioned remedy, I will be removing your sysop flag shortly. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:30, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

And gone. That was fast

Does not look like he's very upset. Good for him!

[The Joy]

Were I the arbs, or the clerk, I would not grant him any extra time given that he only bothered to object when he found himself surprisingly losing a battle he thought he could win by simply staying silent.

Pursuant to the above mentioned remedy, I will be removing your sysop flag shortly. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:30, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

And gone. That was fast

Does not look like he's very upset. Good for him!

Well, I keep hearing on the news that Libyan rebels are besieging Cirt, so he obviously has other problems to worry about.

[HRIP7]

The proposed decision is now being voted on.

There is a conspicuous lack of a "Cirt desysopped" remedy, but what I really want to talk about is this gem.

It looks like a "Cirt desysopped" remedy is not out of the question. In fact, although I am surprised to see myself write this, the decision looks fairly reasonable and productive as ArbCom decisions go. What do you think, Jayen (don't comment if you feel it will jinx or otherwise negatively affect the ongoing process)?

I agree, Herschel.

Of course, it shouldn't have taken the project this long, nor required such an expenditure of time and effort. But in the end, Arbcom did the right thing. Special thumbs-up to Newyorkbrad and Risker (who wasn't active in the case, but made salient talk page comments). And the six desysop voters, of course.

[KD Tries Again]

Best served cold.

[Beer me]

Reaper Eternal just gave him back Auto-patrol.

What an idiot! Auto patrol allowed Cirt to avoid scrutiny of new page patrollers when creating spam like Daryl Wine Bar and Restaurant.

[It's the blimp, Frank]

How does that work, exactly?

[Jagärdu]

Best served cold.

"Nothing more for admins to do here, if people are concerned about Cirt's editing they can talk to him or file an RfC/U if it comes to that. Fences&Windows 21:20, 30 July 2010 (UTC)"

Indeed.

[Kelly Martin]

Yes, and they're trying to make the statistics lie--by generating stubs using bots.
Blofeld is on another of his insane stub-benders, this time of German geographical features.
Trust me, most of these stubs will never be expanded.

They're fooling the donors. And the donors are swallowing it whole.

To be fair, I doubt that people like Blofeld are actively conspiring to deceive donors, or indeed to do anything other than expand his metaphorical dick. Jimbo benefits passively from their beaverage, but they're not doing it for his benefit.

[HRIP7]

Best served cold.

"Nothing more for admins to do here, if people are concerned about Cirt's editing they can talk to him or file an RfC/U if it comes to that. Fences&Windows 21:20, 30 July 2010 (UTC)"

Indeed.

Discussion at the arbcom noticeboard.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Discussion at the arbcom noticeboard.

I think that Georgewilliamherbert must be one of the most disingenuous guys around. For public consumption, he mourns that Cirt is "introspective and responsive to criticism," "willing to admit fault," and that the community should "give credit for responsiveness to criticism." Of course, Cirt's trademark was the grand mea culpa followed by a wave of yet more devious and systematic POV pushing -- as GWH well knows.

[Jagärdu]

Discussion at the arbcom noticeboard.

I think that Georgewilliamherbert must be one of the most disingenuous guys around. For public consumption, he mourns that Cirt is "introspective and responsive to criticism," "willing to admit fault," and that the community should "give credit for responsiveness to criticism." Of course, Cirt's trademark was the grand mea culpa followed by a wave of yet more devious and systematic POV pushing -- as GWH well knows.

Yes he does well know this, and so the other Cirt backers. I think what is hardest for them to swallow is what this decision means about their own power in the community. They all know that Cirt violated policy for a cause. They all, quite clearly, take no issues with this cause. They like the fact that they have been able to keep him in the game. For some this is because they had power to keep Cirt around doing "the good work". For others I'm sure cronyism played a part and yet others something else, but I'm sure the feeling it gave them all was the same each time they successfully defended Cirt. Sorry fellas, you're just not as cool as you thought you were.

This post has been edited by Jagärdu: Tue 13th September 2011, 1:54pm

[EricBarbour]

Sorry fellas, you're just not as cool as you thought you were.

(snort) Very funny. They do this crap, precisely because they aren't cool guys.

Sometimes I wonder how many pounds overweight the average English Wikipedia admin is.
We'll never know, because they've set up a system whereby they can act like asshats--
anonymously. A perfect storm of young male arrogance and stupidity, and "knowledge".

(Betcha didn't know this: Wikipedians think that
baseball is almost three times as important as philosophy....
and football is three times as important as baseball....)

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Tue 13th September 2011, 9:32pm

[Detective]

Does not look like he's very upset. Good for him!

Whew, what a cool customer! He's already starting a campaign to get himself re-ingratiated with the powers that be on WP. No doubt he hopes to become an admin again, if necessary under yet another username. To get away with that, he'll need a few friends, won't he?

Reaper Eternal just gave him back Auto-patrol.

What an idiot! Auto patrol allowed Cirt to avoid scrutiny of new page patrollers when creating spam like Daryl Wine Bar and Restaurant.

How does that work, exactly?

If someone with the appropriate gnarly awesome powers looks at Special:NewPages, he'll see them highlighted in yellow unless they were created by, or verified as sensible by, another user with similar powers. Now, Cirt's new pages will not be highlighted, so the average new page checker won't bother to look at them, allowing him to get away with creating spam.

This post has been edited by Detective: Tue 13th September 2011, 9:47pm

[Jagärdu]

So after his desysop Cirt hasn't edited in a week. Will he come back as Cirt or is it reincarnation time?

Meanwhile Carrite is protesting the decision by not editing the encyclopedia for a month. Oh wait, strike that, Carrite is protesting the decision by editing Cirt's talk page as an IP and telling Cirt to "fuck" Arbcom because they are "assholes". Apparently though there is more to it because he's also protesting censorship. Oh crap there is even more. According to Carrite's "friend" Cullen, Carrite is also "trying to learn what happens to enthusiastic IP editors here". How noble! Totally makes sense, because most "enthusiastic IP editors" start their careers by telling editors to fuck arbcom because they are a bunch of assholes. I'm sure that his experience will be thoroughly generalizable.

But the real gem is what Carrite says on his newly minted IP's talk page. "I hate Wikipedia Review, but I read it all the time. They understand what douchebags the inner circle of Wikidom are." Do they Carrite? Do you understand where the person you are protesting on behalf of fits in that little scheme? Apparently not. Oh and you really ought to consider not being so attracted to things that you hate.

This post has been edited by Jagärdu: Mon 19th September 2011, 11:14am

[HRIP7]

But the real gem is what Carrite says on his newly minted IP's talk page. "I hate Wikipedia Review, but I read it all the time. They understand what douchebags the inner circle of Wikidom are." Do they Carrite? Do you understand where the person you are protesting on behalf of fits in that little scheme? Apparently not. Oh and you really ought to consider not being so attracted to things that you hate.

If I am not mistaken, Carrite has an account here, called Timbo. Perhaps he'll elucidate.

[chrisoff]

Kudos to you, HRIP7, for persevering, gathering the evidence, presenting it persuasively, and (ultimately) getting this Cirt thing over the finish line with the Arbs.

This post has been edited by chrisoff: Wed 21st September 2011, 12:21am

[HRIP7]

Kudos to you, HRIP7, for persevering, gathering the evidence, presenting it persuasively, and (ultimately) getting this Cirt thing over the finish line with the Arbs.

Thanks.