| |
Wikileaker's identity |
|
|
| Shalom |
Thu 7th July 2011, 3:04am
|
Über Member
    
Group: Regulars
Posts: 877
Joined: Tue 1st Apr 2008, 4:00pm
Member No.: 5,566
WP user page -
talk
check -
contribs

|
I've determined Wikileaker's identity on a "more probable than not" standard of confidence. I assumed that the statements Wikileaker made about himself on Wikipedia Review are accurate, and I evaluated every arbitrator's history on Wikipedia against those statements. Only one user seemed to match all the criteria. Does anyone want to know? Newyorkbrad? Do you want to know? You did ask before: http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=155190 [Wikileaker is NOT Newyorkbrad. I am pointing out that Newyorkbrad asked Wikileaker to identify himself.]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
  |
Replies
| EricBarbour |
Thu 7th July 2011, 3:35am
|

blah
        
Group: Regulars
Posts: 5,919
Joined: Mon 25th Feb 2008, 2:31am
Member No.: 5,066
WP user page -
talk
check -
contribs

|
o rly? Sam Korn left Arbcom in 2006. Not FT2? Not Morven, Matthews, Deskana, Jdforrester, Jpgordon, or YellowMonkey, all of whom stepped down in Dec 08/Jan 09? 
|
|
|
|
|
|
| No one of consequence |
Thu 7th July 2011, 3:40am
|

I want to stare at the seaside and do nothing at all
    
Group: Regulars
Posts: 635
Joined: Fri 23rd Feb 2007, 2:34am
Member No.: 1,010
WP user page -
talk
check -
contribs

|
I have no comment as to the accuracy of the guess, but retired arbitrators continued to have full access to the Arbcom mailing list until sometime in 2009 (if I recall correctly). After some controversy over something or other, and some early leaks that may or may not have been Wikileaker, Arbcom closed the Arbcom mailing list to all but current arbitrators only, and also created the functionaries mailing list, which checkusers, oversighters and past arbcom members in addition to current arbcom members are eligible to join.
This post has been edited by No one of consequence: Thu 7th July 2011, 4:28am
|
|
|
|
|
|
| radek |
Thu 7th July 2011, 4:38am
|

Über Member
    
Group: Regulars
Posts: 699
Joined: Sat 28th Nov 2009, 10:40pm
Member No.: 15,651
WP user page -
talk
check -
contribs

|
QUOTE(No one of consequence @ Wed 6th July 2011, 10:40pm)  I have no comment as to the accuracy of the guess, but retired arbitrators continued to have full access to the Arbcom mailing list until sometime in 2009 (if I recall correctly). After some controversy over something or other, and some early leaks that may or may not have been Wikileaker, Arbcom closed the Arbcom mailing list to all but current arbitrators only, and also created the functionaries mailing list, which checkusers, oversighters and past arbcom members in addition to current arbcom members are eligible to join.
The implication of this presumes that they change the password (or whatever guards access to these super sekrit archives) frequently. If not, then someone who had access to it pre 2009 (with some kind of axe to grind), who's access got removed, still could have gone back more recently and checked if "the old password still works" and then... Maybe it sounds a little far fetched but from what I understand a lot of these security breaches occur for mundane reasons like this. And the leaker did say that the reason for the leak was "stupidity" and this certainly fits the scenario.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Shalom |
Thu 7th July 2011, 12:12pm
|
Über Member
    
Group: Regulars
Posts: 877
Joined: Tue 1st Apr 2008, 4:00pm
Member No.: 5,566
WP user page -
talk
check -
contribs

|
QUOTE(radek @ Thu 7th July 2011, 12:38am)  QUOTE(No one of consequence @ Wed 6th July 2011, 10:40pm)  I have no comment as to the accuracy of the guess, but retired arbitrators continued to have full access to the Arbcom mailing list until sometime in 2009 (if I recall correctly). After some controversy over something or other, and some early leaks that may or may not have been Wikileaker, Arbcom closed the Arbcom mailing list to all but current arbitrators only, and also created the functionaries mailing list, which checkusers, oversighters and past arbcom members in addition to current arbcom members are eligible to join.
The implication of this presumes that they change the password (or whatever guards access to these super sekrit archives) frequently. If not, then someone who had access to it pre 2009 (with some kind of axe to grind), who's access got removed, still could have gone back more recently and checked if "the old password still works" and then... Maybe it sounds a little far fetched but from what I understand a lot of these security breaches occur for mundane reasons like this. And the leaker did say that the reason for the leak was "stupidity" and this certainly fits the scenario. I'm under the impression that each Arbcom-L user has an individual username and password, just like on Wikipedia or the Review. Sam Korn's login would have been disabled on January 16, 2009, when he and the other old-timers were removed from access to Arbcom-L. Perhaps the login was not disabled but he also didn't receive new messages. Any other former arbitrator from that time could comment here on what happened. Thatcher commented but he wasn't an arbitrator so he has no direct knowledge of what Sam Korn would have found different. Thus, there wasn't one password to ArbCom-L -- unless there was. I've also concluded that Sam Korn may be "Anonymous editor" here on Wikipedia Review. If I'm correct, it would enable me to continue our conversation from two years ago at "False statements at RFA" thread. I haven't examined "Anonymous editor"'s pattern enough to know with confidence, but one clue suggests that he is Wikileaker (both accounts tell someone else "You are a child"). Another clue suggests Anonymous editor is Sam Korn ("I know everything about you, Shalom, your name, your..."). Sam Korn checkusered me or at least reported results to me. This was before "Anonymous editor" taunted me in that way. This post has been edited by Shalom: Thu 7th July 2011, 12:15pm
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Anonymous editor |
Thu 22nd September 2011, 5:34pm
|
Über Member
    
Group: Regulars
Posts: 666
Joined: Mon 4th Aug 2008, 6:21pm
Member No.: 7,398

|
QUOTE(Shalom @ Thu 7th July 2011, 8:12am)  QUOTE(radek @ Thu 7th July 2011, 12:38am)  QUOTE(No one of consequence @ Wed 6th July 2011, 10:40pm)  I have no comment as to the accuracy of the guess, but retired arbitrators continued to have full access to the Arbcom mailing list until sometime in 2009 (if I recall correctly). After some controversy over something or other, and some early leaks that may or may not have been Wikileaker, Arbcom closed the Arbcom mailing list to all but current arbitrators only, and also created the functionaries mailing list, which checkusers, oversighters and past arbcom members in addition to current arbcom members are eligible to join.
The implication of this presumes that they change the password (or whatever guards access to these super sekrit archives) frequently. If not, then someone who had access to it pre 2009 (with some kind of axe to grind), who's access got removed, still could have gone back more recently and checked if "the old password still works" and then... Maybe it sounds a little far fetched but from what I understand a lot of these security breaches occur for mundane reasons like this. And the leaker did say that the reason for the leak was "stupidity" and this certainly fits the scenario. I'm under the impression that each Arbcom-L user has an individual username and password, just like on Wikipedia or the Review. Sam Korn's login would have been disabled on January 16, 2009, when he and the other old-timers were removed from access to Arbcom-L. Perhaps the login was not disabled but he also didn't receive new messages. Any other former arbitrator from that time could comment here on what happened. Thatcher commented but he wasn't an arbitrator so he has no direct knowledge of what Sam Korn would have found different. Thus, there wasn't one password to ArbCom-L -- unless there was. I've also concluded that Sam Korn may be "Anonymous editor" here on Wikipedia Review. If I'm correct, it would enable me to continue our conversation from two years ago at "False statements at RFA" thread. I haven't examined "Anonymous editor"'s pattern enough to know with confidence, but one clue suggests that he is Wikileaker (both accounts tell someone else "You are a child"). Another clue suggests Anonymous editor is Sam Korn ("I know everything about you, Shalom, your name, your..."). Sam Korn checkusered me or at least reported results to me. This was before "Anonymous editor" taunted me in that way. lol. This post has been edited by Anonymous editor: Thu 22nd September 2011, 5:35pm
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posts in this topic
Shalom Wikileaker's identity Thu 7th July 2011, 3:04am Ottava I honestly would rather have cake than care about ... Thu 7th July 2011, 3:11am EricBarbour Me! Me! <_< Thu 7th July 2011, 3:11am Shalom
Me! Me! <_<
Wikileaker is Sam Kor... Thu 7th July 2011, 3:29am  melloden
Me! Me! <_<
Wikileaker is Sam Ko... Thu 7th July 2011, 3:34am  melloden
I have no comment as to the accuracy of the guess... Thu 7th July 2011, 4:58pm trenton Its either Sam Korn, Flcelloguy, or Fritzpoll.
Le... Thu 7th July 2011, 3:49am Somey Let the witch hunt begin!
Before we get starte... Thu 7th July 2011, 3:53am A Horse With No Name
Its either Sam Korn, Flcelloguy, or Fritzpoll.
L... Thu 7th July 2011, 12:52pm  NuclearWarfare
Its either Sam Korn, Flcelloguy, or Fritzpoll.
... Thu 7th July 2011, 3:17pm   Abd [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='279447' d... Thu 7th July 2011, 4:41pm    Sololol
[quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='279447' ... Thu 7th July 2011, 5:40pm Wikileaker I've determined Wikileaker's identity on a... Thu 7th July 2011, 4:02am Shalom What's your evidence that Wikileaker is Nuclea... Thu 7th July 2011, 1:46pm Kelly Martin They were using mailman, which means each member h... Thu 7th July 2011, 3:11pm Theanima I don't think it's Sam Korn, but unless Wi... Thu 7th July 2011, 5:36pm Minor4th My guess is either Randy or Carcaroth or however y... Thu 7th July 2011, 6:02pm Theanima
My guess is either Randy or Carcaroth or however ... Thu 7th July 2011, 7:32pm NuclearWarfare Assuming that Wikileaker indeed lost access in Jan... Thu 7th July 2011, 9:28pm Deskana
Assuming that Wikileaker indeed lost access in Ja... Thu 7th July 2011, 9:56pm Ottava
Assuming that Wikileaker indeed lost access in J... Thu 7th July 2011, 10:31pm Wikileaker You all assume too many things. What if I said I... Thu 7th July 2011, 10:29pm NuclearWarfare
You all assume too many things. What if I said I... Thu 7th July 2011, 10:56pm EricBarbour
You all assume too many things.
Don't get th... Fri 8th July 2011, 12:58am SpiderAndWeb Another day, another disillusioned ex-arb breaking... Thu 7th July 2011, 11:19pm Casliber
You all assume too many things. What if I said I... Thu 7th July 2011, 11:46pm Shalom
[quote name='Wikileaker' post='279523' date='Fri ... Fri 8th July 2011, 1:21am  tarantino
Clarification: Sam Korn's last edit to Wikipe... Fri 8th July 2011, 2:55am   Encyclopedist I'll just say this; Malice Aforethought seems ... Fri 8th July 2011, 4:04am    trenton
OTOH, who really should give a flying fuck about ... Fri 8th July 2011, 4:44am    Shalom
As regards who *is* the leaker, I cannot think it... Fri 8th July 2011, 1:33pm     nableezy
I'll have to double-check this, but I don... Fri 8th July 2011, 8:02pm      Shalom
I'll have to double-check this, but I don... Fri 8th July 2011, 9:57pm       EricBarbour
Given Arbcom's delinquence in failing to desy... Fri 8th July 2011, 10:04pm        Shalom Here's the computer file I wrote up before I m... Fri 8th July 2011, 11:49pm        Milton Roe
Given Arbcom's delinquence in failing to des... Sat 9th July 2011, 12:06am         melloden
[quote name='EricBarbour' post='279639' date='Fri... Sat 9th July 2011, 2:46am       nableezy
What is your motivation in criticizing Wikipedia ... Sat 9th July 2011, 1:39pm  melloden
[quote name='Wikileaker' post='279523' date='Fri... Fri 8th July 2011, 3:47am The Adversary Having earlier encountered Shalom´s great ability... Sat 9th July 2011, 3:50am cyofee
Having earlier encountered Shalom´s great abilit... Sat 9th July 2011, 10:06am  Shalom
Having earlier encountered Shalom´s great abili... Sun 10th July 2011, 4:00am   bi-winning
I looked at every former arbitrator, without prej... Sun 10th July 2011, 5:51pm    -DS-
I looked at every former arbitrator, without pre... Sun 10th July 2011, 6:25pm    Milton Roe
I looked at every former arbitrator, without pre... Sun 10th July 2011, 7:44pm     Shalom
[quote name='bi-winning' post='279793' date=... Tue 12th July 2011, 11:42am      Tarc Whoever Anonymous editor is, he clearly has stalke... Tue 12th July 2011, 2:42pm       Shalom
Whoever Anonymous editor is, he clearly has stalk... Tue 12th July 2011, 4:30pm      Anonymous editor
[quote name='bi-winning' post='279793' date... Thu 22nd September 2011, 5:38pm       Shalom
[quote name='Shalom' post='280016' date='Tue 12th... Tue 27th September 2011, 8:40pm        Newyorkbrad
Anonymous editor, I have one question that will p... Wed 28th September 2011, 3:11am         Kelly Martin
Anonymous editor, I have one question that will ... Wed 28th September 2011, 4:51am          melloden
[quote name='Newyorkbrad' post='285240' date='Tue... Wed 28th September 2011, 2:37pm           Shalom Replies.
1. Newyorkbrad: "unanswered" =... Fri 7th October 2011, 4:40pm chrisoff I'm sorry the leaker will leak no more because... Tue 26th July 2011, 11:12pm Abd I'm sorry the leaker will leak no more because... Wed 27th July 2011, 2:17am chrisoff
I'm sorry the leaker will leak no more becaus... Wed 27th July 2011, 6:17pm melloden
[quote name='Abd' post='281330' date='Tue 26th Ju... Wed 27th July 2011, 7:20pm  MaliceAforethought
[quote name='Abd' post='281330' date='Tue 26th J... Wed 27th July 2011, 8:00pm   Encyclopedist
Methinks the lady doth protest too much. It... Thu 28th July 2011, 2:25am    MaliceAforethought
Methinks the lady doth protest too much. It... Thu 28th July 2011, 3:19am     MaliceAforethought Stop the presses! His royal hineyness Rodhull... Thu 28th July 2011, 3:26am      MaliceAforethought
Stop the presses! His royal hineyness Rodhul... Thu 28th July 2011, 5:00am     Guido den Broeder
Methinks the lady doth protest too much. It... Sat 30th July 2011, 8:56am   Detective
I've not been anyone of consequnce on Wikiped... Fri 29th July 2011, 5:16pm    No one of consequence
I've not been anyone of consequnce on Wikipe... Fri 29th July 2011, 5:31pm    -DS-
I've not been anyone of consequnce on Wikipe... Fri 29th July 2011, 5:48pm EricBarbour Boooooring.......bored now....... <_< Thu 28th July 2011, 3:43am Anonymous editor these attacks by Shalom are baseless and I believe... Tue 17th January 2012, 4:04am
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
| |