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post Sun 24th July 2011, 11:05pm
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Eh, all they saw was "Pastor" and assumed that the persona was a vicar that you'd find in a Jane Austen novel.


You mean ambitious, self-interested, obsequious, hypocritical and generally-slimy social climbers?

Exactly - admin (and their attention-grabbing wannabees) groom and vote for people who are exactly like themselves, which is partly why they are nearly all so very very very bad.

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QUOTE(Mr.Treason II @ Sun 24th July 2011, 5:07am) *

You, Kohs, have been the only one on this forum to do legal threats, get away with it

What legal threats?

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I'm making a barnstar page for you on my website.

What website?


The site at mrtrezons-site.pcriot.com, which with your help will be moved to mrtreasonfoundation.wikipediareview.com. (The hosting will be on my servers. And the legal threats are as your Zibiki Wym account. Anayway, Cool3 is your only sysop account. I use many socks and TROLL ACCOUNTS (sorry my caps lock screwed up) on wikipedia.
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And the legal threats are as your Zibiki Wym account.


.....Those were legal threats?
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post Sat 6th August 2011, 5:23pm
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QUOTE(-DS- @ Thu 14th July 2011, 9:18am) *

I've been running a not-inconsiderable number of socks on Wikipedia for some time now. As far as I know, nobody (besides "Mathewignash", but he suspects everyone of being me anyway) has the slightest clue it was me all along.

Then again, that may change.


I've run 130 sockpuppets on wikimedia projects.
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QUOTE(Mr.Treason II @ Sat 6th August 2011, 7:23pm) *

QUOTE(-DS- @ Thu 14th July 2011, 9:18am) *

I've been running a not-inconsiderable number of socks on Wikipedia for some time now. As far as I know, nobody (besides "Mathewignash", but he suspects everyone of being me anyway) has the slightest clue it was me all along.

Then again, that may change.


I've run 130 sockpuppets on wikimedia projects.


I've run 248. That post referred to the sockfarm I'm running at present.
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post Sat 6th August 2011, 5:47pm
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QUOTE(-DS- @ Sat 6th August 2011, 1:30pm) *
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I've been running a not-inconsiderable number of socks on Wikipedia for some time now. As far as I know, nobody (besides "Mathewignash", but he suspects everyone of being me anyway) has the slightest clue it was me all along.

Then again, that may change.
I've run 130 sockpuppets on wikimedia projects.
I've run 248. That post referred to the sockfarm I'm running at present.
SPI archive for XXV (DS)Yeah, Mathewignash is a tad obsessive. Quite a few rejected accusations, where some POV or "interest" is the basis for the claim.

One would think that the presence of these massive sock farms would make it obvious that the Wikipedia "consensus" system might not be working. The wasted labor is enormous. And I believe DS, this user could easily have many undetected socks, they only detect ones with obvious connections, any sophisticated user can avoid UA and IP detection.

There have been alternative approaches suggested, but there are entrenched constituencies which probably enjoy playing whack-a-mole, with the associated illusion of power. Having played both sides of that game, I'll testify now to what I long suspected before I did any socking, that the "mole" side has more fun. That's a setup for entrenched inefficiency.

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QUOTE(Guido den Broeder @ Thu 21st July 2011, 3:55am) *

Pfah. My sockpuppet is Jimbo Wales.

You naughty, naughty boy. Stop putting stupid words into his mouth. It's not fair.
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I've been running a not-inconsiderable number of socks on Wikipedia for some time now. As far as I know, nobody (besides "Mathewignash", but he suspects everyone of being me anyway) has the slightest clue it was me all along.

Then again, that may change.
I've run 130 sockpuppets on wikimedia projects.
I've run 248. That post referred to the sockfarm I'm running at present.
SPI archive for XXV (DS)Yeah, Mathewignash is a tad obsessive. Quite a few rejected accusations, where some POV or "interest" is the basis for the claim.


As far as I can tell, he's pissed that I dared to try and trim his walled garden of fancruft, as well as tried to remove links to a site he's blocked from, on COI grounds (which is true, the links were being inserted by the site's admins).

Some people just defy reason.
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post Sat 6th August 2011, 8:03pm
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Mathewignash? Jesus, one of the most retarded, basement-dwelling neckbeards I've had the misfortune to interact with in recent memory.

I wonder if those wikialpha fools are having second thoughts about their save-the-deleted-content project, as all it has become is Mathewignash's Personal Transformers Masturbatathon.

No one else

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

is doing a single thing there at all.
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Mathewignash? Jesus, one of the most retarded, basement-dwelling neckbeards I've had the misfortune to interact with in recent memory.

So, DS is the guy who writes all those insane articles about various Transformers?

Hey DS!!! I want to interview you! Insane sockers are just the ticket!

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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sat 6th August 2011, 10:44pm) *

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Mathewignash? Jesus, one of the most retarded, basement-dwelling neckbeards I've had the misfortune to interact with in recent memory.

So, DS is the guy who writes all those insane articles about various Transformers?

Hey DS!!! I want to interview you! Insane sockers are just the ticket!


I think he's the guy who tries to get them deleted, but honestly, I could be just way confused.
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post Sun 7th August 2011, 8:29am
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QUOTE(radek @ Sun 7th August 2011, 9:45am) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sat 6th August 2011, 10:44pm) *

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SPI archive for XXV (DS)Yeah, Mathewignash is a tad obsessive.
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Mathewignash? Jesus, one of the most retarded, basement-dwelling neckbeards I've had the misfortune to interact with in recent memory.

So, DS is the guy who writes all those insane articles about various Transformers?

Hey DS!!! I want to interview you! Insane sockers are just the ticket!


I think he's the guy who tries to get them deleted, but honestly, I could be just way confused.


I tried to get a lot of them removed, actually.

I have nothing against pop culture in general and Transformers specifically, but you gotta admit, 964 (wasn't there only 600 a few months ago) articles, most of which are cited to various fansites or just not at all, is insane.

You still up for that interview? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Sun 24th July 2011, 7:05pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 14th July 2011, 1:51pm) *

Eh, all they saw was "Pastor" and assumed that the persona was a vicar that you'd find in a Jane Austen novel.


You mean ambitious, self-interested, obsequious, hypocritical and generally-slimy social climbers?

Exactly - admin (and their attention-grabbing wannabees) groom and vote for people who are exactly like themselves, which is partly why they are nearly all so very very very bad.


You're good! You get a big Horsey kiss for knowing your Brit lit. Mwah! wub.gif
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[quote name='-DS-' date='Sat 6th August 2011, 8:44pm' post='282518']
[quote name='Abd' post='282510' date='Sat 6th August 2011, 7:47pm']
[quote name='-DS-' post='282508' date='Sat 6th August 2011, 1:30pm'][quote name='Mr.Treason II' post='282507' date='Sat 6th August 2011, 7:23pm'][quote name='-DS-' post='280193' date='Thu 14th July 2011, 9:18am']I've been running a not-inconsiderable number of socks on Wikipedia for some time now. As far as I know, nobody (besides "Mathewignash", but he suspects everyone of being me anyway) has the slightest clue it with 30 sockpuppets on wikimedia projects.[/quote]I've run 248. That post referred to the sockfarm I'm running at present.[/quote]SPI archive for XXV (DS)Yeah, Mathewignash is a tad obsessive. Quite a few rejected accusations, where some POV or "interest" is the basis for the claim.[/quote]

As far as I can tell, he's pissed that I dared to try and trim his walled garden of fancruft, as well as tried to remove links to a site he's blocked from, on COI grounds (which is true, the links were being inserted by the site's admins).

Some people just defy reason.
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I've also imported my sock puppets on Metapedia, Wikifur and have set up accounts on Wikisage, Ohinternet, Encyc, TFWiki and Wikipedia Review to put Pro Gaddafi Pro Girlvinyl
Propaganda to create a stronger co-operation between Girlvinyl and my new jolted Wikipedia Review at joltreview.co.cc, a anti-wikipedia version of Wikipedia Review.
Much moar tolerant of dox and lulz. So far, I've got now 152 sockpuppets and 1 meatpuppet.
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QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Sun 24th July 2011, 6:05pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 14th July 2011, 1:51pm) *

Eh, all they saw was "Pastor" and assumed that the persona was a vicar that you'd find in a Jane Austen novel.


You mean ambitious, self-interested, obsequious, hypocritical and generally-slimy social climbers?

Exactly - admin (and their attention-grabbing wannabees) groom and vote for people who are exactly like themselves, which is partly why they are nearly all so very very very bad.

see this fuzznut and his history of attention grabbing...

This editor particularly loves WP:HUSH...
Example of hush #1
Example Hush #2
example of hush #3

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See also: Wikipedia:Don't restore removed comments

Placing numerous false or questionable "warnings" on a user's talk page, restoring such comments after a user has removed them, placing "suspected sockpuppet" and similar tags on the user page of active contributors, and otherwise trying to display material the user may find annoying or embarrassing in their user space is a common form of harassment.

User pages are provided so that editors can provide some general information about themselves and user talk pages are to facilitate communication. Neither is intended as a 'wall of shame' and should not be used to display supposed problems with the user unless the account has been blocked as a result of those issues. Any sort of content which truly needs to be displayed, or removed, should be immediately brought to the attention of admins rather than edit warring to enforce your views on the content of someone else's user space."


More reason to consider Admins that enable this figgen crazy.
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Ahh JoJo, are you still mad that your socks get spotted instantly? Your particular strain of batshit insane has a stench that no wiki-deodorant could mask.
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Ahh JoJo, are you still mad that your socks get spotted instantly? Your particular strain of batshit insane has a stench that no wiki-deodorant could mask.


Sock puppets...is that all that is important on Wikipedia is to catch my socks??? What a joke. You wikipediots are clueless to the real issues of wikipeidia... And this is why Wikipeidia is a failure and and hazard to the internet. And you, Tarc are a JIMMY cum sucker..
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One thing about socking, I have been intrigued about folks' perceptions of sockmasters who have created a sock and successfully made a new persona that wrote and interacted substantively differently to the original account. Has anyone been really impressed at one which turned out to be a sock, and had otherwise been successful at sounding completely different?
Cas

(has this topic been asked before somewhere?)


It was Xmas, 25 years ago (picture it, Sicily...), and I received a floppy disk drive ($299) and a 300 baud modem, used ($180).

I never thought of creating a "persona." The Internet was always an extension of my real-life personality.

In the 80s, real names were common. But with the explosion of the web in the 90s, AOL encouraged handles, once again.

I can only say that 20 years ago, using your real name, associated with an email address, was looked down upon. Now, it is common place. That being said, my personality has always transcended whatever username I chose.

I got lucky with "Law," because I was attending graduate school, and creating articles was a way for me to study; hence the articles on taxation. However, I sold enough Google stock to live in San Diego for a year, without having a job. The more I drank, the more the temptation to alleviate myself of living behind a shell. So, I would tell people that I used to be the "undertow," without thinking that it would affect others.

Psychologists would say that I wanted to be "caught." That may be true. All pictures of me were real. My personality was real, and that's why I wasn't/couldn't be a successful sock, because I felt that while writing articles was a good hobby, it really isn't as fun without being honest about who I am. WP is a social structure; however the readers generally have no idea about that aspect.

To me, after being the undertow, it just became a game. I really had no grasp that every google search would lead to an article, and that some kid was going to benefit from my knowledge, and grasp of wiki-code. It's not a game. BIOs really affect people, which I why I've always advocated having them on a separate wiki or non-existant. I realize that I have created them, but I do so with neutrality, or so I hope.

People rely on WP. They shouldn't, but they do. I wouldn't have done anything different as undertow, but as Law, I may have. I could have shut the fuck up. But it came down to the same exact circumstance - I felt that someone was being bullied, and I rectified it. Temporarily.

I know this is long, but my point is that my personality will always transcend a screen name. So no, I was not a successful sock, in the traditional sense. If you can't be yourself, I just don't see the point in interacting with others. I was me. Still am. The "addiction" for me, was not in the actual creation - it was with the social interaction that was lacking in my life. It was popularity. It was fun and it should be.

I do a little editing here and there, but I do it as the undertow. Because I learned that I'd rather be a blacklisted editor, than create a persona that simply isn't mine. I've tried it, and it sucks. It's like any relationship, you just want someone who accepts you for being you - not for who you pretend to be. There's no fun in that.
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QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th September 2011, 11:23pm) *

... JIMMY cum sucker ...

Yo, its "dick/cock sucker" and "cum guzzler". Not "cum sucker". Lets try to get this right.


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QUOTE(nableezy @ Tue 6th September 2011, 12:06pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th September 2011, 11:23pm) *

... JIMMY cum sucker ...

Yo, its "dick/cock sucker" and "cum guzzler". Not "cum sucker". Lets try to get this right.


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There should be a douche stylebook.
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