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From: (Mailer Diablo)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 03:42:36 +0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

My first day at CheckUser, so I hope I'm getting it right here.

I think I found yet another IP linking to his main and socks :

- Orderly Conductor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orderly_Conductor>
(talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orderly_Conductor> |
contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Orderly_Conductor>
|
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Orderly_Conductor>) (
Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Orderly+Conductor&reason=Thekohser+accounts>)
(11:29, 25 October 2009 -- 15:15, 10 January 2010) [*49*]
*(Blocked<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3AOrderly+Conductor>
)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3)
Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3 GTB6*
2. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5)
Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 GTB6*
3. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091201 Firefox/3.5.6 GTB6*
4. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7)
Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7 GTB6*
- Cool3 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cool3>
(talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cool3> |
contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cool3> |
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Cool3>)
(Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Cool3&reason=Thekohser+accounts>)
(19:49, 23 November 2009 -- 13:54, 2 January 2010) [*17*]
*(administrator <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators>)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5)
Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 GTB6*
2. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091201 Firefox/3.5.6 GTB6*
- Eight Oh-Six <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eight_Oh-Six>
(talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eight_Oh-Six> |
contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eight_Oh-Six> |
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Eight_Oh-Six>)
(Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Eight+Oh-Six&reason=Thekohser+accounts>)
(12:20, 14 November 2009 -- 12:26, 14 November 2009) [*2*]
*(Not unified)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5)
Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 GTB6*
- Thekohser <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thekohser>
(talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thekohser> |
contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thekohser> |
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Thekohser>)
(Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Thekohser&reason=Thekohser+accounts>)
(22:04, 8 November 2009) [*1*]
*(Blocked<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3AThekohser>
)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5)
Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 GTB6*
- Lowell don't get lunch we'll order
pizza<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lowell_don%27t_get_lunch_we%27ll_order_pizza>
(talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lowell_don%27t_get_lunch_we%27ll_order_pizza>
|
contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lowell_don%27t_get_lunch_we%27ll_order_pizza>
|
block<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Lowell_don%27t_get_lunch_we%27ll_order_pizza>
) (Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Lowell+don%27t+get+lunch+we%27ll+order+pizza&reason=Thekohser+accounts>)
(19:19, 28 October 2009) [*1*]
*(Not unified)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3)
Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3 GTB6*

Cheers,
MD

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

> I expect that he's using socks from another IP, as using socks from his
> own IP is too easy...
>
> The socks found (all blocked) are:
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...Houston_Navarro
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...utions/TheOzone
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.../Fragilis_Etiam
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...derly_Conductor
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...ibutions/Peetah
>
> The following two are under my control now but blocked anyway
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ns/Furniture_1Z
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ns/El_Removidor
>
>
> I checked the contribs of all those socks and I didn't spot any BLPs edited
> recently (this year) except for the one that probably is worth the most
> scrutiny is Orderly Conductor... but I may be missing something... however
> something OC did may be off..
>
> http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/139277212 an article about a
> Ron Hunt doing some VC drug related stuff
>
> In this edit he refs that article
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=336550638
> but this Ron Hunt is from the UK and born in 1945.
> and in the next edit
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=336550638 he
> undoes that (almost certainly spurious) addition.
>
> In this edit
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=336552406
> he seems to be doing the same sort of thing.. it's undone in the next edit
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=336552406
>
> I'm suspicous of Victor Berlin too
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&action=history
>
> Part of what he's doing is getting us stirred up just to waste our time.
>
> Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:43:32 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Um guys, I see some of you checking 98.243.217.155 that's my IP smile.gif

You'l find me, Josette, the accounts I just took control of, and our
houseguest. Not Thekohser smile.gif And yes, our houseguest has been disclosed to
certain ArbCom members.


Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (Fred Bauder)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:49:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

You're lucky we didn't block you...

Fred

> Um guys, I see some of you checking 98.243.217.155 that's my IP smile.gif
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:52:05 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

The 68. IP is his home. Other accounts he'd be using from wifi hotspots.
----------

From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:52:40 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

You're lucky I don't desysop and de CU you smile.gif

Please don't set autoblock on either of those two accounts I took control of
if you feel the need to tweak the block settings.

Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:55:25 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

STEWARD ABUSE

CALL THE FOUNDATION

TO ARMS! TO ARMS!
----
User:Avraham
----------

From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:21:37 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

come the revolution, you're the first against the wall, red (text) mother...

Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (KnightLago)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:27:17 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Is this IP related or not? I not Cool3 is an admin.

KL

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Mailer Diablo wrote:

> My first day at CheckUser, so I hope I'm getting it right here.
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:33:46 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, KnightLago wrote:

> Is this IP related or not? I not Cool3 is an admin.
>
> KL


That does get an oh snap, probably need to look into that.

If this is his breaching experiment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=336951281


I'm already bored.
--
~Keegan
----------

From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:36:17 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Kohser works for <redacted>

69.141.192.61
<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192
.61>

http://toolserver.org/~chm/whois.php?ip=69.141.192.61

is a <redacted> IP. (So's mine) ... they shift over time, not too fast (nothing
like say Tiscali), but they do shift.

Cool3 needs investigation but before anything rash is done, I'd suggest that
we see where else Cool3 edits from. Get on IRC and talk to more experienced
CUs. It's likely that there isn't a connection but there might be.

Kohser is smart though, I can't imagine him actually running an admin from
an IP that's anywhere near connected to him.


Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (Mailer Diablo)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:36:48 +0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Cool3 is probably a legit account. Can't say the same for the rest though.
The IP show recent edits from Orderly Conductor, and the main account
TheKosher shows up as well.

I'm not that experienced so you might want to do your own homework before
taking any action.

MD
----------

From: (KnightLago)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:39:55 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Can one of our more experienced CUs take a look at Cool3?

Thanks,
KL
----------

From: (Dweller)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:39:25 +0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

I ptesume that it's entirely possible the admin is run by a
sympathetic meatpuppet
----------

From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:40:29 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cool3&diff=prev&oldid=3
29820038>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...f=prev&oldid=32
9820038 ("this user rarely edits any more" basically)

Cool3 may well be a sold account or it could just be a coincidence.


Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:02:02 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Well, Cool3 relocates to <redacted>, PA, where Kohs lives, except for one
brief stint from <redacted>, FL.

Kohs' parents live in <redacted>. (See <
http://www.wikipediareview.com/Directory:Gregory_J._Kohs>)

The two cities are around 5-10 miles apart, close enough for one to
geolocate to the other.

Coincidence?

--Avi
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:06:17 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

I'm kinda wary of Cool3 for a few reasons;

The useragent is a little unusual as the editor is using Firefox with Google Toolbar (GTB);

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201 Firefox/3.5.6 GTB6

but it coincides rather nicely with the 'Orderly Conduct' account, which has now already been blocked, per comments below. They all use a relatively stable Comcast cable IP. Also, per my knowledge, the account 'Lowell don't get lunch we'll order pizza' has a typical Kohser name choice. I've seen him use sentences quite a bit in the past.

Just my $0.02, and I've not looked in massive detail.

-- Allie
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:36 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Oops!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=334210787

Cool3 voted 'keep' on the Gary Weiss/Mantanmoreland article, so that's kinda game-over!

-- Allie
----------

From: (Happy-melon)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:09:10 -0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Quack quack quack.

I haven't seen anything other than what you've posted, but things seem to be
adding up in an unpleasant fashion...

--HM
----------

From: (KnightLago)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:15:19 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

I did not follow the issues surrounding that dispute closely. Did Kohs want
that article kept?

Allie, could you do me a favor and look this further? I nominated Cool3 for
adminship and am not going to be happy if he turns out to be a a sock.

Thanks,
KnightLago
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:17:04 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

And

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ns/Eight_Oh-Six

... currently unblocked is definitely Kohser based on edits relating to WMF, Jimmy and doesn't geolocate anywhere "near Atlantic City, NJ" per their userpage. Also the IP is shared with the others, per below, with a short 10-minute gap between accounts. This is waaaay to short to be related to DHCP pool recycling. Oh, and the same useragent with Google Toolbar. I'd say 'busted' on this one.

-- Allie
----------

From: (Mailer Diablo)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:18:27 +0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Ewwww. What a can of worms.

MD
-----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:25:37 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Mailer Diablo wrote:

> Ewwww. What a can of worms.
>
> MD


Well, yes. But it does show that he's not as smart about spoofing and
socking that we tend to give him credit for. Really, the couple edits that
Orderly Conductor made as a BLP experiment were quite pointless other than
to make a point.

I'd say we have enough evidence to call Cool3 out.

Ordinarily we'd reach out by private email, but since this is most likely
Kohs I'd rather him not find out how we know, because that would lead to an
alteration of his methods of gaming the system. I'd prefer we know what his
rules are and bend and break them appropriately (such as this).

--
~Keegan
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:25:26 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

It's an article related to Gary Weiss aka Mantanmoreland and yes, it was politicly significant to have it be kept. As Lar can attest, it was all over Wikipedia Review and indeed, one of Mantanmoreland's socks had actually nom'd it for deletion.

I'm very, very wary of the Cool3 account right now & I'd really love to know what Thatcher makes of this one.

This account also geolocates to <redacted>, FL from the one IP which edited on the 26th of November. From the rest of the time (23 November 2009 -- 21:54, 1 January 2010), it located to <redacted>, PA.

-- Allie
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:27:17 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

>
> This account also geolocates to <redacted>, FL from the one IP which
> edited on the 26th of November.
>

Someone went home for Thanksgiving.

--
~Keegan
----------

From: (Hersfold)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:28:25 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

If someone could keep checking Cool3 and looking for other socks, that
would be excellent (I'm unfortunately a tad busy to check myself right
now). If he slipped here, it's possible we may be able to use Cool3 to
connect other accounts actually being used for his breaching experiment.

This has been brought to the arbcom list, where I would expect something
will be decided soon. This is very high priority.

----
User:Hersfold
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:28:44 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

I thought I said that biggrin.gif

<redacted> is 5-10 miles from <redacted> where Kohs parents' live (see
his wikipediareview page)


What else do we need, retinal scans?

biggrin.gif

--Avi
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:29:44 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Cool3 only has those 2 ips, Hersfold. (WestChester and FL) that's a dead
end.
----
User:Avraham
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:31:34 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Let's expand out the range a bit and see what happens ....

I'm waaay busy here at the moment, too. Worktime smile.gif

-- Allie
----------

From: (Happy-melon)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:33:03 -0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

To an ordinary mortal, sure. Fortunately, we've already remarked on the
divine nature of some of our CUs...

:-D

--HM


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Avi"
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:29 PM
To: "Functionaries email list for the English Wikipedia"
<functionaries-en at lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

> Cool3 only has those 2 ips, Hersfold. (WestChester and FL) that's a dead
> end.
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:33:49 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Safe to post CU result info here?

--Avi
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:35:11 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Avi <avi.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> What else do we need, retinal scans?
>
> biggrin.gif
>
>
> --Avi

Perhaps. I can get them for you at a reasonable price. I'm working up a
preliminary risk management plan on contract for installing retina scanners,
fingerprint pads, and face recognition devices at military base entrances.
I can get Wikimedia a sweet hookup for the price of the Strategy grant.

And to think people accuse me of never doing any work.
--
~Keegan
----------

From: (KnightLago)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:36:25 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser


Yes.

KL

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Avi wrote:

> Safe to post CU result info here?
----------

From: Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:36:36 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Avi wrote:

> Safe to post CU result info here?
>
> --Avi

They have been before. Yes, this list leaks.

--
~Keegan
----------

From: (Happy-melon)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:35:29 -0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

It's important that we keep digging as far as possible before we let Kohs
know that we've cracked something. Then tell him in as controlled a fashion
as possible, and see what else drops out of the woodwork.

--HM
----------

From: (FloNight)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:39:42 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...:Log&user=Cool3

Can someone look at his blocks and deletions. I don't have time to do it,
and I imagine that we need to know if there are problems before this goes
public.

Sydney
----------

From: (Mailer Diablo)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:43:07 +0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

And it's only my first day in actual use of Checkuser. I certainly didn't
expect to catch such a Big Fish! XD

Kenneth/MD
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:44:29 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:39 PM, FloNight wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...:Log&user=Cool3
>
> Can someone look at his blocks and deletions. I don't have time to do it,
> and I imagine that we need to know if there are problems before this goes
> public.
>
> Sydney


The blocks and deletions are pretty innocuous, the account didn't do much.
When it was active with the bits, it was in spurts that seem to relate to
move discussions or RC patrol. Nothing too iffy other than the one year
schoolblock, but those happen all the time.


--
~Keegan
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:45:41 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Mailer Diablo wrote:

> And it's only my first day in actual use of Checkuser. I certainly didn't
> expect to catch such a Big Fish! XD
>
> Kenneth/MD


Good for you for doing so smile.gif WR will go bananas. It's the nice kind of
distraction from boring Word documents.
--
~Keegan
----------

From: avi.wiki at gmail.com (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:47:47 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser
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OK.

Expanding out to the /24 we get another nibble See last entry and continued
below:


- Orderly Conductor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orderly_Conductor>
(talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orderly_Conductor> |
contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Orderly_Conductor>
|
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Orderly_Conductor>) (
Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Orderly+Conductor&reason=%5BFunctionaries-en%5D+Playing+games+with+Thekohser>)
(23:29, October 24, 2009 -- 02:15, January 10, 2010) [*49*]
*(Blocked<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3AOrderly+Conductor>
)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3)
Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3 GTB6*
2. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5)
Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 GTB6*
3. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091201 Firefox/3.5.6 GTB6*
4. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7)
Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7 GTB6*
- 69.141.192.66<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:69.141.192.66&action=edit&redlink=1>
(talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:69.141.192.66&action=edit&redlink=1>
|
contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.141.192.66> |
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/69.141.192.66>)
(Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.66&reason=%5BFunctionaries-en%5D+Playing+games+with+Thekohser>)
(16:24, December 5, 2009 -- 17:11, January 9, 2010) [*3*]
1. 69.141.192.66<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.66>

1. *Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET
CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)*
- Cool3 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cool3>
(talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cool3> |
contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cool3> |
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Cool3>)
(Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Cool3&reason=%5BFunctionaries-en%5D+Playing+games+with+Thekohser>)
(06:49, November 23, 2009 -- 00:54, January 2, 2010) [*17*]
*(administrator <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators>)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5)
Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 GTB6*
2. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091201 Firefox/3.5.6 GTB6*
- Eight Oh-Six <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eight_Oh-Six>
(talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eight_Oh-Six> |
contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eight_Oh-Six> |
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Eight_Oh-Six>)
(Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Eight+Oh-Six&reason=%5BFunctionaries-en%5D+Playing+games+with+Thekohser>)
(23:20, November 13, 2009 -- 23:26, November 13, 2009) [*2*]
*(Not unified)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5)
Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 GTB6*
- Thekohser <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thekohser>
(talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thekohser> |
contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thekohser> |
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Thekohser>)
(Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Thekohser&reason=%5BFunctionaries-en%5D+Playing+games+with+Thekohser>)
(09:04, November 8, 2009) [*1*]
*(Blocked<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3AThekohser>
)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5)
Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 GTB6*
- Lowell don't get lunch we'll order
pizza<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lowell_don%27t_get_lunch_we%27ll_order_pizza>
(talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lowell_don%27t_get_lunch_we%27ll_order_pizza>
|
contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lowell_don%27t_get_lunch_we%27ll_order_pizza>
|
block<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Lowell_don%27t_get_lunch_we%27ll_order_pizza>
) (Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Lowell+don%27t+get+lunch+we%27ll+order+pizza&reason=%5BFunctionaries-en%5D+Playing+games+with+Thekohser>)
(07:19, October 28, 2009) [*1*]
*(Not unified)*
1. 69.141.192.61<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.61>

1. *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3)
Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3 GTB6*
- Randi Polanich<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Randi_Polanich&action=edit&redlink=1>
(talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randi_Polanich> |
contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Randi_Polanich>
|
block <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Randi_Polanich>)
(Check<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Randi+Polanich&reason=%5BFunctionaries-en%5D+Playing+games+with+Thekohser>)
(16:41, October 18, 2009) [*1*]
1. 69.141.192.99<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=69.141.192.99>

1. *Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR
2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; InfoPath.2)*



This is a different UA, checking "Randi" gives us another IP: 169.145.3.21

This IP is:

IP Address 169.145.3.21<http://cqcounter.com/traceroute/?query=169.145.3.21>
Host 169.145.3.21 Location [image: US] US, United States City West
Chester, PA - Organization SAP AMERICA

That is shared by a bunch of people who work in the SAP office; none seem
like Kohs though, and he works for <redacted>.

The FL IP has no one else on the /24 and no one else on the /16 with the
same UA.

Of course, I defer to Thatcher and FT2 in sleuthing abilities.

--Avi

Note for those taking my socking lessons: Notice how User Agent (UA) is like a drug for the Wikipidiots. Change your operating system and watch the hilarity that ensues.
----------

From: (FloNight)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:50:20 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

And his comment on the Flagged Revision vote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=332427182

My vote should be construed as criticism of the Foundation staff for not
making this a top priority. [[User:Cool3|Cool3]] ([[User talk:Cool3|talk]])
03:09, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

--Sydney
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:55:10 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

HOWEVER,

We can get very Holmsian and look at this:

SAP owns the entire /16 (169.145.0.0/16)

Now, the Cool3 UA (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3 GTB6) appears ONCE in the entire
list (3 months), but look at the edit:

November 12, 2009

- (diff<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_La_Crosse&curid=2893459&diff=325450286&oldid=320932001>)
(hist<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_La_Crosse&curid=2893459&action=history>)
. . Roman Catholic Diocese of La
Crosse<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_La_Crosse>.
. 10:47 . .
169.145.3.20<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/169.145.3.20>
(talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:169.145.3.20> |
block<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/169.145.3.20>
) (Updated patron)
*IP*:
169.145.3.20<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=169.145.3.20&reason=%5BFunctionaries-en%5D+Playing+games+with+Thekohser>
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5)
Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 GTB6


Now, following the wiki article, the Diocese of La Crosse serves: 19
counties: Adams <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams_County,_Wisconsin>,
Buffalo <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_County,_Wisconsin>,
Chippewa<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chippewa_County,_Wisconsin>,
Clark <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_County,_Wisconsin>,
Crawford<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_County,_Wisconsin>,
Dunn <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunn_County,_Wisconsin>, Eau
Claire<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eau_Claire_County,_Wisconsin>,
Jackson <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_County,_Wisconsin>,
Juneau<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneau_County,_Wisconsin>,
La Crosse <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Crosse_County,_Wisconsin>,
Marathon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_County,_Wisconsin>,
Monroe<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_County,_Wisconsin>,
Pepin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin_County,_Wisconsin>,
Pierce<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierce_County,_Wisconsin>,
Portage <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage_County,_Wisconsin>,
Richland<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richland_County,_Wisconsin>,
Trempealeau <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trempealeau_County,_Wisconsin>,
Vernon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_County,_Wisconsin>, and
Wood<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_County,_Wisconsin>
.


Kohs was born in <redacted>, MI.

A bit more contrived, but you can call me Mycroft.

Does this open up the entire SAP group now, was it Kohs using the wireless
once, or is it truly coincidental?

--Avi
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:56:55 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

And I just realized I just confused a W for an M.

AC Doyle will not be calling me smile.gif

Sorry, yall.

--Avi
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From: (Hersfold)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:57:23 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Yeah, it's always fun when you find an admin in the CU results. Loads of
fun when it turns out the admin is one of the accounts you're looking for.

----
User:Hersfold
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:58:23 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

>
> Does this open up the entire SAP group now, was it Kohs using the wireless
> once, or is it truly coincidental?


Two things make for coincidence, three things don't. A twist on Franklin,
if you will.
--
~Keegan
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:58:34 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Looks about right, although officially, the netblock is 69.141.192.0/18 - scanning this for users really picks out the common accounts amongst the noise. So yeah, the narrower range below that you used really shows it up rather well smile.gif

Like you say, the 'Randi Polanich' account is unrelated and just happens to be someone relatively nearby.

-- Allie

On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Avi wrote:

> OK.
>
> Expanding out to the /24 we get another nibble See last entry and continued below:
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:00:54 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Hersfold wrote:

> Yeah, it's always fun when you find an admin in the CU results. Loads of
> fun when it turns out the admin is one of the accounts you're looking for.
>

You have a strange idea of fun smile.gif

So...wait for ArbCom? What do y'all want us to do now? I think we're
reaching our speculation limit.
--
~Keegan
----------

From: (Hersfold)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:03:43 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

At this point, yes, hang on. It looks as though we've uncovered
everything to be uncovered. Again, hopefully something will be decided soon.

----
User:Hersfold
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From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:07:52 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Went to visit relocated family maybe (his parents), but Kohs is from
Michigan originally...

If this Cool3 is actually him (as it seems is likely) I have to wonder if he
meant to throw that account away ? It came about by Furniture 1Z baiting me
on my talk page. Since that account was already tagged as one of his did he
think I ***wasn't*** going to check it???? As if.


Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (David Yellope)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:10:29 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Probably thought you'd just tag and bag it
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:11:47 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

I reiterate that he's not as smart as everyone gives him credit for,
something that has probably hampered our ability to track him in the past.

I definitely think Cool3 was never meant to be a serious account, looking
over edit histories. I'm wondering what would have happened to whatever
account was being used a year ago to bring this one back active. I'll look
into it in a bit.

--
~Keegan
----------

From: (Roger Davies)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:14:27 +0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

If a couple of non-arb CheckUsers would like to confirm that Cool3 is a
sock of TheKohser, I'll initiate an emergency desysop on arbcom-l.
Unless Larry wants to do it?

Roger
----------

From: (Steve Smith)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:15:11 +0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

As I've noted on the arbitration list, there was talk on WR about a fellow
named Limey selling an admin account, and Kohs expressing an interest in
buying. So it's probable that what actually happened is that Kohs only
recently gained control of this account, and that's why there was a gap.
----------

From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:16:55 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

The credit here goes to lots of folk, remember... and ya, WR won't like this
one bit.


Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:21:02 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

One way of looking at this (which is depressing) is ... how many man hours
did we just blow on this hunt? I don't know what you guys bill at, but If
Kohs paid a hundred bucks for the account he paid less than the time I spent
just myself would have billed for. Plus everyone else too. And that's
depressing, what a waste of time.

Hopefully there are other ways of looking at it.


Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (tznkai)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:22:22 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

There are, but some of them require economic analysis about externalties and
marginal returns.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

> One way of looking at this (which is depressing) is ... how many man
----------

From: (Risker)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:23:11 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser


Only popping on for a moment, but while everyone is at it, please check <redacted> at 68.87.42.110.

Risker/Anne
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:23:09 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Which is why we are all volunteers; the wikimedia corporation cannot afford
us--period.

--Avi
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:24:28 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Even the marginal cost is not worth the collective man-hours spent on this;
but we do this because we want to smile.gif

--Avi
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:25:00 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

> One way of looking at this (which is depressing) is ... how many man

Multi-tasking, Lar.

These things for me are never wasted time, it's a welcome distraction from
doing paid work (above mentioned contract) which needs me online all day on
my day off from real work, plus I did a couple voicemails and emails for
OTRS and kicked around some BLPTF ideas in my head <
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Task_force/BLP>.

This thread, in thwarting Kohs, is something that I actually consider
important.

--
~Keegan
----------

From: (Happy-melon)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:25:12 -0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

On the other hand, look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cool3/Desysop Anyone want to offer odds on
the owner of the account in May 2009 being a statistician??

--HM
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:25:21 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Used extensively, and all already blocked;

Thekohser (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (06:35, 23 December 2009 -- 13:01, 14 January 2010) [5]
Furniture 1Z (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (10:21, 14 January 2010) [1]
Houston Navarro (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (12:21, 27 October 2009 -- 13:17, 11 January 2010) [25]
TheOzone (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (13:54, 5 January 2010 -- 13:59, 5 January 2010) [3]
Fragilis Etiam (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (12:11, 6 November 2009 -- 12:48, 6 November 2009) [7]
Orderly Conductor (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (06:47, 28 October 2009 -- 07:22, 28 October 2009) [6]
Peetah (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (11:11, 23 October 2009) [1]

-- Allie

On Jan 14, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Risker wrote:

> Only popping on for a moment, but while everyone is at it, please check
----------

From: (David Yellope)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:26:03 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Compromised Admin Account: $100
10+ man hours (Checkuser/ArbCom/etcetera) $350
Gregory Kohs swearing a blue streak: Priceless

For everything else, there's Wikipedia. tongue.gif
----------

From: (Happy-melon)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:28:05 -0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

ROFL. There *are* some things money can't buy...

--HM
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:28:21 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

lol - now that's funny!! happy.gif

-- Allie
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:28:46 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

35 an hour?

Even in internal audits my time is billed over 10 times that.

I'm insulted wink.gif

--Avi
----------

From: (Roger Davies)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:29:47 +0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Larry has just certified to me by email.

Is another non-arb CU prepared to certify that the Cool3 account is
operated by TheKohser?


Roger
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:31:03 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Yep. Certified.

-- Allie
----------

From: (David Yellope)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:31:49 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

No No No.. you're not insulted..

"Your Mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"

Now you're insulted!

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Avi wrote:

> 35 an hour?
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:34:36 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Go away, or i shall taunt you a second time!
----
User:Avraham
----------

From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:37:15 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

For the record, I am a non arb CU, and I confirm that in my considered
judgement there is sufficient technical match between Cool3 and Thekohser
that it is highly likely they are at this time controlled by the same user.

that is, I confirm "that Cool3 is a sock of TheKohser"

I also think it's likely this wasn''t his account all along but that he
bought it, given the early history of the account. And, Ya, Keegan, he's not
as smart as he thinks maybe.


Larry Pieniazek
----------

From: (Happy-melon)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:39:10 -0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

When do you think he bought it? Activity graph
(http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/count/index.php?name=Cool3&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia)
is interesting...

--HM
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:41:56 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Some time around October?

http://wikidashboard.parc.com:80/wiki/Spec...ributions/Cool3

-- Allie
----------

From: (FloNight)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:01:56 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/?diff=prev&oldid=1808905

Request at meta by Sir Fozzie for emergency desysop by ArbCom.

Sydney
----------

From: (Roger Davies)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:06:02 +0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

And with MZMcBride opposing it!

Roger
----------

From: (Avi)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:10:59 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Oh for goodness sakes.

He also opposed allowng 'crats to respond to arbcom onwiki too. This
is why allowng crats to respond is a good thing.

Then again, Lar also opposed, the insensitive uncaring brute!

wink.gif. J/k Lar

--Avi
----------

From: (Keegan Peterzell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:11:58 -0600
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

He's got a thing about transparency, Roger. Don't take it personally, he
doesn't know about the Kohs link (and I'm one that knows what he knows)

--
~Keegan
----------

From: (David Yellope)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:13:04 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

I've asked another Arb to speak up, but any CU that wants to say the same as
well, please be my guest..

David/Foz
----------

From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:17:53 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Four endorses from enwiki functionaries and counting .... that oughtta work!

Can an Arb followup at WP:AN and Cool3's talk page soon and post an official statement? Meta is constantly monitored and the news is spreading rapidly.

-- Allie
----------

From: (KnightLago)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:20:05 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Notices are being added now.

Thanks for all the help with this. Sorry for causing it to begin with.

KnightLago
----------

From: (Roger Davies)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:33:06 +0000
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Done. I was waiting for the request to be actioned.

We look more stupid than normal if we announce it and there's a snag and
it don't happen.

Roger
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From: (Larry Pieniazek)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:43:32 -0500
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Um guys, I see some of you checking 98.243.217.155 that's my IP smile.gif

You'l find me, Josette, the accounts I just took control of, and our
houseguest. Not Thekohser smile.gif And yes, our houseguest has been disclosed to
certain ArbCom members.


Larry Pieniazek

What does Lar mean by "the accounts I just took control of"?

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Um guys, I see some of you checking 98.243.217.155 that's my IP

You'l sic find me, Josette, the accounts I just took control of, and our houseguest. Not Thekohser

I wonder how many people have been blocked for less. But of course a steward is near enough untouchable.
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From: (Alison Cassidy)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:25:21 -0800
Subject: [Functionaries-en] Playing games with Thekohser

Used extensively, and all already blocked;

Thekohser (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (06:35, 23 December 2009 -- 13:01, 14 January 2010) [5]
Furniture 1Z (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (10:21, 14 January 2010) [1]
Houston Navarro (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (12:21, 27 October 2009 -- 13:17, 11 January 2010) [25]
TheOzone (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (13:54, 5 January 2010 -- 13:59, 5 January 2010) [3]
Fragilis Etiam (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (12:11, 6 November 2009 -- 12:48, 6 November 2009) [7]
Orderly Conductor (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (06:47, 28 October 2009 -- 07:22, 28 October 2009) [6]
Peetah (talk | contribs | block) (Check) (11:11, 23 October 2009) [1]

-- Allie


Allie, I think you nabbed at least a couple in your drag net that weren't at all me. If you look at the User page history of one, it's pretty obvious, in fact, who the real owner is. And the other one was active on Wikipedia since about a month after I got my start on Wikipedia. Do you really suspect that I was socking on Wikipedia within the first 30 days of discovering it?

Yet another example of "due process" on Wikipedia. Thank heavens, Allie, you've changed for the better in the 18 months since!

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What does Lar mean by "the accounts I just took control of"?


He meant:
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If you recall, Jon Awbrey and I were using the "PACMAN" password technique, which essentially opened up some of our sockpuppets to "community" usage. The passwords were deliberately made to be easily-cracked.
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