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| Cla68 |
Fri 2nd September 2011, 11:23pm
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Here, Newyorkbrad expresses concern about me starting an RfC draft on Will Beback. I'll explain my rationale below: 1. Will Beback, by his statement here still just doesn't get it about BLPs. In beginning research for the RfC, I see that Will has what appears to be a years-long, ongoing approach like this towards BLPs. 2. After a recent content RfC in one of the LaRouche articles returned an almost unanimous response to remove a bunch of pejorative material from the article that Will had been trying to keep in, he keeps trying to find a way to keep it all somehow. So, his war on LaRouche is ongoing. 3. After asking all those confrontational questions in the Cirt RfC about editors' religious beliefs, he has kept at it with other editors. This battleground, win-at-all cost mentality towards imposing the content he wants to impose just isn't compatible with what is supposed to be Wikipedia's collaborative model. 4. His attempts on the talk and workshop pages of this ArbCom case and the Jayen/Cirt case to manipulate the scope and results and spin the decisions to fit his editing agenda show that he has no intention of stopping what he is doing. 5. Of all the Wikipedia admins who were notorious for treating Wikipedia as their personal property back in 2005 and 2006, banning editors at will (WordBomb, for example), and using off-wiki mailing lists to coordinate their actions (such as my RfA and the Cyberstalking/Durova fiasco), Will Beback is the only who doesn't appear to have altered his behavior one iota. Most, if not all, of the others, SlimVirgin, Jayjg, JzG, etc have amended their editing and administrative behavior in response to demands from the community. Will Beback appears to be the lone holdout. 6. Judging by the response here, the community is tired of Will's battleground, wikilawyering, win-at-all cost approach to participating in Wikipedia. He hasn't listened and responded to previous attempts at dispute resolution. Perhaps this RfC will do it. I should have it ready and posted in a month or two. This post has been edited by Cla68: Fri 2nd September 2011, 11:25pm
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| Mathsci |
Sat 3rd September 2011, 12:16am
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Fri 2nd September 2011, 11:23pm)  Here, Newyorkbrad expresses concern about me starting an RfC draft on Will Beback. I'll explain my rationale below: What was is that prevented you posting this on wikipedia? This post has been edited by Mathsci: Sat 3rd September 2011, 12:17am
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Herschelkrustofsky Manipulation of BLPs Wed 3rd August 2011, 2:38pm SpiderAndWeb
The aptly named "Manipulation of BLPs" ... Wed 3rd August 2011, 3:20pm -DS- I wish I had started my latest "good hand... Wed 3rd August 2011, 4:20pm It's the blimp, Frank
The aptly named "Manipulation of BLPs" ... Wed 3rd August 2011, 4:59pm No one of consequence
What about SlimVirgin? I think she has been ly... Wed 3rd August 2011, 5:03pm  It's the blimp, Frank
It sounds like they are not looking to punish any... Wed 3rd August 2011, 5:33pm   Detective
Rather, expect a new set of behavioral guideline... Wed 3rd August 2011, 6:59pm    It's the blimp, Frank
[quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='282... Thu 4th August 2011, 4:24pm     No one of consequence
There is a big debate about this now on this page... Thu 4th August 2011, 5:02pm      Herschelkrustofsky
[quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='282... Thu 4th August 2011, 8:56pm   No one of consequence
It sounds like they are not looking to punish an... Wed 3rd August 2011, 7:52pm    Herschelkrustofsky
Obviously there is nothing unclear about BLP poli... Wed 3rd August 2011, 8:28pm     No one of consequence
Admins represent a privileged caste.
Not to me.... Wed 3rd August 2011, 8:33pm    lilburne
[quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='282... Wed 3rd August 2011, 8:48pm     Herschelkrustofsky
A simple rule that the only RS with respect to co... Wed 3rd August 2011, 8:59pm      lilburne
A simple rule that the only RS with respect to c... Wed 3rd August 2011, 9:40pm       Herschelkrustofsky
If the Daily Post article of June 1 1976 is not ... Wed 3rd August 2011, 10:09pm        Abd If the Daily Post article of June 1 1976 is not a ... Thu 4th August 2011, 1:03am Herschelkrustofsky Abd, I think you are sort of missing the point her... Thu 4th August 2011, 6:14am radek
<snip> For example, opinions about living p... Fri 5th August 2011, 2:15am It's the blimp, Frank Will has his undies in a bunch and is agitating fo... Fri 5th August 2011, 2:00am It's the blimp, Frank Will is clearly hoping to shape the way the case i... Fri 5th August 2011, 2:56am No one of consequence
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wi... Fri 5th August 2011, 3:07am  EricBarbour
[quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='282... Fri 5th August 2011, 3:17am   NuclearWarfare
[quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='28... Fri 5th August 2011, 3:46am    The Adversary Wait, who is McWhiney?Look it up on the Hive-Mind ... Fri 5th August 2011, 3:56am     Herschelkrustofsky
Wait, who is McWhiney?Look it up on the Hive-Mind... Fri 5th August 2011, 5:16am      The Adversary
[quote name='The Adversary' post='282351' date='T... Fri 5th August 2011, 5:33am    Milton Roe
[quote name='EricBarbour' post='282345' date='Fri... Fri 5th August 2011, 3:58am   Jagärdu
So here's the rub: I predict that Arbcom will... Fri 5th August 2011, 1:50pm    Vigilant This is shaping up as a standard arbcom matter wit... Fri 5th August 2011, 3:41pm     Jagärdu
Cirt has gone to ground and hasn't edited si... Fri 5th August 2011, 3:46pm      Vigilant
So what you're saying is that Cirt is Cbrick7... Fri 5th August 2011, 4:02pm       Jagärdu
[quote name='Jagärdu' post='282415' date='Fri 5t... Fri 5th August 2011, 4:16pm     Jagärdu
This is shaping up as a standard arbcom matter wi... Fri 5th August 2011, 3:58pm     It's the blimp, Frank
This is shaping up as a standard arbcom matter wi... Fri 5th August 2011, 4:00pm     Herschelkrustofsky
[quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='282... Fri 5th August 2011, 9:19pm      RMHED
I don't think Will Beback is capable of pulli... Fri 5th August 2011, 9:32pm Cla68
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wi... Fri 5th August 2011, 11:03am Herschelkrustofsky Ach, so. But it was EricBarbour's pun, not min... Fri 5th August 2011, 6:08am Milton Roe
Ach, so. But it was EricBarbour's pun, not mi... Fri 5th August 2011, 8:35am  No one of consequence
Ach, so. But it was EricBarbour's pun, not m... Fri 5th August 2011, 11:13am   A Horse With No Name
OT, but WTF is that?
It's my brother-in-law... Fri 5th August 2011, 1:29pm   Jagärdu
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='282376' date='Fri ... Fri 5th August 2011, 1:43pm    Milton Roe
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='282376' date='Fri... Fri 5th August 2011, 3:59pm It's the blimp, Frank I think what Jehochman says here is actually corre... Sat 6th August 2011, 1:28am Jagärdu
I think what Jehochman says here is actually corr... Sat 6th August 2011, 11:48am Daniel Brandt Multiple choice question: Why is Arbcom unable to ... Sat 6th August 2011, 6:41pm It's the blimp, Frank Can someone tell me what is meant by "SEO-lik... Sun 7th August 2011, 3:11am Jagärdu
Can someone tell me what is meant by "SEO-li... Sun 7th August 2011, 3:30am  EricBarbour [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='2825... Sun 7th August 2011, 4:29am   No one of consequence
Well? Anyone want to disagree?
It doesn't ap... Sun 7th August 2011, 4:58am    Jagärdu
Well? Anyone want to disagree?
It doesn't a... Sun 7th August 2011, 1:16pm    EricBarbour It doesn't appear to have anything to do with ... Sun 7th August 2011, 7:12pm It's the blimp, Frank Do you think that Willie and Hochman have actual l... Mon 8th August 2011, 5:40pm No one of consequence
Do you think that Willie and Hochman have actual ... Mon 8th August 2011, 6:17pm  Jagärdu
It seems that there was a lot of interest in a BL... Mon 8th August 2011, 7:11pm  It's the blimp, Frank
Whoever else wanted to have a case on BLPs in gen... Mon 8th August 2011, 8:03pm   No one of consequence
Whoever else wanted to have a case on BLPs in ge... Mon 8th August 2011, 8:13pm  lilburne
On the other hand, if someone else wants to step ... Mon 8th August 2011, 8:29pm   EricBarbour It is a pointless waste of time. The system is bro... Mon 8th August 2011, 10:49pm    RMHED
It is a pointless waste of time. The system is br... Mon 8th August 2011, 10:54pm    Abd It is a pointless waste of time. The system is bro... Wed 10th August 2011, 5:12pm It's the blimp, Frank http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7551/126854stri... Tue 9th August 2011, 3:07am Herschelkrustofsky [font=Franklin Gothic Medium][size=5][i]Chutzpah i... Wed 10th August 2011, 4:53am Rhindle
But I have plenty of time to talk about it from ... Fri 12th August 2011, 10:14pm It's the blimp, Frank There's a real catfight going on. Does that me... Sat 13th August 2011, 2:29am NuclearWarfare
There's a real catfight going on. Does that m... Sat 13th August 2011, 2:52am It's the blimp, Frank Cla68 has tantalizing placeholders. Sat 13th August 2011, 3:12am It's the blimp, Frank I hope this isn't too far off topic -- I someh... Sat 13th August 2011, 3:23am Cla68
I hope this isn't too far off topic -- I some... Sat 13th August 2011, 5:20am It's the blimp, Frank The complaints about the skimpy evidence seem to b... Sat 13th August 2011, 5:48pm lilburne
The evidence given by Collect shows that there is... Sat 13th August 2011, 6:34pm It's the blimp, Frank Actually, I missed one -- he goes after Will Bebac... Sun 14th August 2011, 2:45am It's the blimp, Frank Here's a good side show. What strikes me about... Mon 15th August 2011, 4:29pm It's the blimp, Frank Jehochman complains about the Wikipedia Review:
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Jehochman complains about the Wikipedia Review:
... Fri 19th August 2011, 8:46pm  Herschelkrustofsky
[quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='283... Fri 19th August 2011, 9:37pm   EricBarbour Here's the page you have been waiting for: [wp... Fri 19th August 2011, 10:11pm Herschelkrustofsky ResidentAnthropologist has provided a helpful surv... Sun 21st August 2011, 4:53pm It's the blimp, Frank Awesome. Tue 23rd August 2011, 7:17pm  It's the blimp, Frank
I take it you read Brad's comments about this... Tue 30th August 2011, 5:19pm   Herschelkrustofsky
Here, Newyorkbrad expresses concern about me star... Sat 3rd September 2011, 12:07am    EricBarbour
[quote name='Cla68' post='283986' date='Fri 2nd S... Sat 3rd September 2011, 1:57am    The Joy
[quote name='Cla68' post='283986' date='Fri 2nd S... Sat 3rd September 2011, 4:56am     Herschelkrustofsky
The Wikipedia Community want their Barabbas (Will... Sat 3rd September 2011, 6:08am    Cla68
[quote name='Cla68' post='283986' date='Fri 2nd S... Sat 3rd September 2011, 5:41am     Mathsci
[quote name='Cla68' post='283986' date='Fri 2nd ... Sat 3rd September 2011, 7:37am      EricBarbour Wikipedia has changed, BLP policy has changed and ... Sat 3rd September 2011, 9:04pm       Beer me
[quote name='Mathsci' post='284002' date='Sat 3rd... Sat 3rd September 2011, 10:56pm       lilburne
[b](By the way, Mathsci, you incredible bastard,... Sat 3rd September 2011, 11:34pm It's the blimp, Frank
What do you mean, if? The decision does nothing ... Sat 3rd September 2011, 6:42pm Herschelkrustofsky This discussion provides a sterling example of the... Thu 8th September 2011, 12:45am
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