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> Censorship at wikipedia
communicat
post Thu 4th August 2011, 10:12am
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Censorship, according to Jimbo, is "antithetical to the philosophy of Wikipedia". But while he's preaching to the Chinese about freedom of information, he somehow manages to turn a blind eye to what's going on in his own backyard. Anyone who doubts that censorship is actually the norm in certain important wikipedia topic areas, should have a look at these off-wiki articles. And no, you won't find any links to them on wikipedia; they've been blacklisted. Here are the links:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/...hip-462070.html

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/sft_wikipedia.htm

http://www.serendipity.li/hr/bacque_on_wikipedia.htm

http://hnn.us/articles/125437.html

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm

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post Thu 4th August 2011, 12:20pm
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Jimbo frequently practices censorship. He shouldn't be speaking about it.
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post Thu 4th August 2011, 12:38pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 4th August 2011, 12:20pm) *

Jimbo frequently practices censorship. He shouldn't be speaking about it.


You people have a pretty broad understanding of "censorship". Censorship would be oversighting the comment entirely. Evasiveness when confronted with something that makes you uncomfortable because you don't have any answers that wont make you look bad is not censorship. If I had my druthers the term censorship would be stricken from the English language because it is abused all the time in the modern world, especially in places where the new libertarianism of Web 2.0 can be found. That includes Wikipedia of course, but also Wikipedia Review.
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post Thu 4th August 2011, 5:22pm
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QUOTE(Jagärdu @ Thu 4th August 2011, 5:38am) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 4th August 2011, 12:20pm) *

Jimbo frequently practices censorship. He shouldn't be speaking about it.


You people have a pretty broad understanding of "censorship". Censorship would be oversighting the comment entirely. Evasiveness when confronted with something that makes you uncomfortable because you don't have any answers that wont make you look bad is not censorship. If I had my druthers the term censorship would be stricken from the English language because it is abused all the time in the modern world, especially in places where the new libertarianism of Web 2.0 can be found. That includes Wikipedia of course, but also Wikipedia Review.

Wikipedia Review doesn't claim to be WP:NOTCENSORED.

Right now, Jimbo Wales, with a straight face, is suggesting that WP is losing editors due to "convoluted editing templates." blink.gif Whatever this editing template problem is, it must be a hell of a nasty software thing, since it's affecting recruitment and retention of administrators on WP, also. wink.gif The journalists asking the softball questions are too ignorant to know about that, and if they do know, are mostly too overworked or lazy to connect the dots to see that Jimbo is self-evidently full of shit, or else they are too jaded to really care whether he is or not. unhappy.gif Or all three.

Not only is there a broad class of problems with Wikipedia that WMF will not discuss in public, there's a class that they won't even allow to be discussed on Wikipedia. Hence, the need for Wikipedia Review. A few journalists and others occasionally read here, especially if Google can find the comment topically.
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communicat   Censorship at wikipedia   Thu 4th August 2011, 10:12am
Jagärdu   Censorship, according to Jimbo, is "antithet...   Thu 4th August 2011, 11:54am
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='282182' date='Thu ...   Thu 4th August 2011, 5:53pm
radek   Huh? Reagan got away with IC and two years later...   Sun 7th August 2011, 4:06am
thekohser   [quote name='thekohser' post='282190' date='Thu 4...   Thu 4th August 2011, 5:07pm
Silver seren   [quote name='thekohser' post='282190' date='Thu ...   Sun 7th August 2011, 2:22am
Milton Roe   [quote name='thekohser' post='282235' date='Thu 4...   Sun 7th August 2011, 3:43am
Jagärdu   [quote name='thekohser' post='282235' date='Thu 4...   Mon 8th August 2011, 7:19pm
communicat   [quote name='thekohser' post='282190' date='Thu 4...   Thu 4th August 2011, 6:10pm
Jagärdu   [quote name='thekohser' post='282190' date='Thu ...   Mon 8th August 2011, 10:23pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='282251' date='Thu ...   Wed 10th August 2011, 2:56pm
Milton Roe   BTW, you almost got it right about the "cult...   Wed 10th August 2011, 4:48pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='282826' date='Wed ...   Sat 12th November 2011, 6:43pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='282251' date='Thu ...   Wed 10th August 2011, 3:35pm
Wikifan   yea the truthers link totally discredits your argu...   Thu 4th August 2011, 12:35pm
Ottava   I found it odd that the Independent claims that th...   Thu 4th August 2011, 5:56pm
EricBarbour   Thanks for reminding me about the Edwin Black arti...   Thu 4th August 2011, 8:08pm
timbo   God damn, what a bunch of weak links... 2007? Tw...   Sun 7th August 2011, 12:13am
EricBarbour   God damn, what a bunch of weak links... 2007? Two...   Sun 7th August 2011, 4:10am
communicat   God damn, what a bunch of weak links... 2007? T...   Sun 7th August 2011, 2:22pm
Detective   Nothing has changed since 2007. Wikipedia is not ...   Mon 8th August 2011, 2:57pm
communicat   Nothing has changed since 2007. Wikipedia is not...   Mon 8th August 2011, 5:48pm
radek   [quote name='Detective' post='282656' date='Mon 8...   Mon 8th August 2011, 7:54pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='282670' date='Mon ...   Mon 8th August 2011, 8:47pm
Zoloft   <snicker-snack> Oh, and by the way, you mis...   Tue 9th August 2011, 12:24am
Bielle   <snicker-snack> Oh, and by the way, you mis...   Tue 9th August 2011, 1:09am
communicat   If you'd really like to see some longstanding ...   Sun 7th August 2011, 4:27pm
EricBarbour   It's also probably one of wikipedia's lon...   Sun 7th August 2011, 8:58pm
radek   It's also probably one of wikipedia's lo...   Mon 8th August 2011, 3:43am
communicat   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='282592' date='Sun...   Mon 8th August 2011, 11:02am
radek   Well, he wasn't banned for it, but he was co...   Mon 8th August 2011, 4:18pm
communicat   Well, he wasn't banned for it, but he was c...   Mon 8th August 2011, 5:33pm
Milton Roe   If Radek (who hails from Poland) is really so con...   Mon 8th August 2011, 5:40pm
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='282666' date='Mon ...   Mon 8th August 2011, 7:23pm
communicat   There are numerous, readily available Russian aca...   Mon 8th August 2011, 10:39am
communicat   Edwin Black was blocked for making legal threats. ...   Mon 8th August 2011, 10:50am
Sxeptomaniac   Reading between the lines, communicat's posts ...   Mon 8th August 2011, 8:21pm
communicat   Reading between the lines, communicat's posts...   Mon 8th August 2011, 9:11pm
Jagärdu   Reading between the lines, communicat's post...   Mon 8th August 2011, 10:16pm
Sxeptomaniac   Ah! Surprise, surprise! Here we have yet ...   Tue 9th August 2011, 1:35am
timbo   >>basically Mr. communicat is of the opinion...   Tue 9th August 2011, 4:28am
radek   >>basically Mr. communicat is of the opinio...   Tue 9th August 2011, 5:48am
communicat   >>basically Mr. communicat is of the opinio...   Tue 9th August 2011, 11:36am
Jagärdu   >>basically Mr. communicat is of the opini...   Tue 9th August 2011, 11:53am
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='282696' date='Mon ...   Tue 9th August 2011, 11:43am
communicat   I'll start a new topic specifically to edify J...   Wed 10th August 2011, 2:32pm
Jagärdu   I'll start a new topic specifically to edify ...   Wed 10th August 2011, 4:40pm
KD Tries Again   Just a few points. The distinction between main...   Wed 10th August 2011, 8:19pm
communicat   Just a few points. The distinction between mai...   Wed 10th August 2011, 9:10pm
KD Tries Again   You misunderstood me. I meant that on most subjec...   Thu 11th August 2011, 6:59pm
communicat   You misunderstood me. I meant that on most subje...   Sat 12th November 2011, 1:56pm
It's the blimp, Frank   Thank god! We can still say "shit" a...   Sat 12th November 2011, 4:48am
communicat   Thank god! We can still say "shit" ...   Sat 12th November 2011, 11:25am


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