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thekohser
post Sun 11th September 2011, 6:02pm
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Would you hire Erik Moeller?


Sure! I'd hire him to babysit Kira Wales.

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post Sun 11th September 2011, 10:11pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 11th September 2011, 11:02am) *
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Would you hire Erik Moeller?
Sure! I'd hire him to babysit Kira Wales.
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post Sun 11th September 2011, 10:57pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 11th September 2011, 6:11pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 11th September 2011, 11:02am) *
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Would you hire Erik Moeller?
Sure! I'd hire him to babysit Kira Wales.
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Both of you are over the line on this one. sick.gif
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post Sun 11th September 2011, 11:54pm
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 11th September 2011, 3:57pm) *
Both of you are over the line on this one. sick.gif

a) the fact that you know what this refers to indicates that there is, in fact, something unpleasantly bad
about Erik Moeller.

b) nothing would be more ironically ugly than to have Wales's spawn molested by one of Master Wales's
closest wiki-buddies. Because WP is a ripe target for pedophiles, because pedos have been trying to
edit WP articles to make themselves look like solid citizens, and because the second-in-command at
the Wikimedia Foundation wrote bizarre screeds stating that he didn't think that "non-violent child pornography"
and sex between adults and children was all that bad, after all.

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post Mon 12th September 2011, 12:07am
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nothing would be more ironically ugly than to have Wales's spawn molested by one of Master Wales's closest wiki-buddies.

Okay, you're really not seeing why this sentiment is the sentiment of a seriously sick fuckwit?
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Unless you really think the sins of the father should be paid for by the children, of course.
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post Mon 12th September 2011, 12:25am
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 11th September 2011, 5:07pm) *
Okay, you're really not seeing why this sentiment is the sentiment of a seriously sick fuckwit?

Forgive me, I just can't help picking at this old scab.

None of this is mentioned in Moeller's BLP, did you know that? And that anyone attempting to insert
this information finds themselves banned and the material oversighted very quickly? A BLP that
has been AFDed three times to date, btw.

A BLP that Cirt and SqueakBox have spent many, many hours writing, to make Moeller look
like a genius. (If you're wondering why Cirt received such grand treatment on WP (until he
was desysopped on Friday), this is a good example.)

That's my main beef with Moeller. It's not even the pedophile issue, it's the fact that he is
treated as "more equal than others" by the other Wiki-animals. Digital Hero, Friend of the
Ineffable Jimbo, and incapable of doing wrong.

Plus, there's nothing in his BLP about the many Usenet posts he was responsible for back
in the 1990s. Some of them are, to put it mildly, a bit eccentric. It is my opinion that he
is a crank--a great believer in crackpot "nerd" subjects like "transhumanism" and "The Singularity".

If he wanted to write on a blog or in a book about all this, it's his right. But he's more than just a blogger.
He is No. 2 at a major nonprofit that runs the seventh most popular website on earth, and
hardly anyone ever asks questions about his personal beliefs or past history.

What qualifies him for this job, other than his long buddy-buddy with Jimbo Wales?

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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 11th September 2011, 8:25pm) *

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 11th September 2011, 5:07pm) *
Okay, you're really not seeing why this sentiment is the sentiment of a seriously sick fuckwit?

<long sermon to choir>

Right, but as far as lil miss Wales is concerned, I hope she'll grow up to be a fine woman with considerably more integrity than her dear old dad. I also hope that she won't need the "hard lessons" of the sort you're suggesting to achieve that.

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What qualifies him for this job, other than his long buddy-buddy with Jimbo Wales?

His movie-star good looks? laugh.gif
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post Mon 12th September 2011, 1:21am
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 11th September 2011, 2:02pm) *

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Would you hire Erik Moeller?


Sure! I'd hire him to babysit Kira Wales.

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Note to Johnny and any others who may have misinterpreted this... This was intended for comedic effect, not actual aspirational wishing aloud.
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In other developments online postings that are designated as cyberbullying are now resulting in jail terms in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14907590
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-nort...etland-14915030
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post Wed 14th September 2011, 1:36pm
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In other developments online postings that are designated as cyberbullying are now resulting in jail terms in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14907590
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-nort...etland-14915030


How long before some Wikipediot suggests that this was discrimination against an Asperger's Syndrome sufferer in each case?

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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 14th September 2011, 2:36pm) *

QUOTE(lilburne @ Wed 14th September 2011, 7:34am) *

In other developments online postings that are designated as cyberbullying are now resulting in jail terms in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14907590
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-nort...etland-14915030


How long before some Wikipediot suggests that this was discrimination against an Asperger's Syndrome sufferer in each case?

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http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...9&oldid=2975406:

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but we require you to be civil and polite in your interactions with others in the community and to act in good faith and cooperate with others for the success of the shared Project.


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In addition, any incivility, bad faith editing, or working against the ends of the project, as defined by local Projects, may result in a ban from editing some or all of our sites.


The new Terms of Use now demand that editors be civil, polite, and cooperative.
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post Tue 11th October 2011, 11:22am
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The new Terms of Use now demand that editors be civil, polite, and cooperative.

Yes, according to Comcast.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 11th October 2011, 7:22am) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 10th October 2011, 9:27pm) *

The new Terms of Use now demand that editors be civil, polite, and cooperative.

Yes, according to Comcast.


http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...1&oldid=2976864

It's Geoffbrigham. he has a habit of forgetting to log in:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...3&oldid=2918412

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...2&oldid=2974755
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It's Geoffbrigham. he has a habit of forgetting to log in:


How cool that the Wikimedia Foundation's lawyer is one of my customers!
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Nice of them to formally include my name (but not me) in the discussion.
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I hereby propose that Wikipedians who attempt to use the TOS to get users banned (because the TOS gives infinite reasons to ban almost anyone) be termed a TOSser.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 11th October 2011, 7:51pm) *

Nice of them to formally include my name (but not me) in the discussion.

Bad news. ohmy.gif User:WhatamIdoing replies that Greg ''isn't'' on my list.
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http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...7&oldid=1474738

The new Terms of use will come into effect on May 20, 2012. If you haven't spoke out before, you're free to do so here and now, although it's too late to suggest any real changes to the terms.

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