Essjay again Options

[Peter Damian]

Daniel Brandt started this post http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=12701 in July 2006, some 9 months before the whole Essjay story came to light. Brandt said that Essjay was between 30 and 45, teaches theology to undergrads and grads, and is a tenured professor at a private university in the northeastern U.S.

He says he has these degrees: Bachelor of Arts in Religious Studies (B.A.), Master of Arts in Religion (M.A.R.), Doctorate of Philosophy in Theology (Ph.D.), Doctorate in Canon Law (JCD). I've searched on his degrees, and I've looked at religion-department faculty lists in the northeast by using this resource. No clues. He keeps to himself, and has been a Wikipedian only since February, 2005. Previous email addresses are essjay-wiki AT hotmail.com and essjay AT pacbell.net (some doubt about the latter). He specializes in Roman Catholicism, but is a liberal non-Catholic. He's an elder in the Disciples of Christ, a liberal Protestant denomination. He's probably had essays on social issues published in obscure, liberal religious publications within the past ten years.

How did Brandt know this? Unfortunately the project that wants all information to be free has deleted Essjay's user page and all historical revisions, and archives. Would that information have been on the user page in July 2006? If it was, is there any way of accessing it?

Actually it doesn't matter if I can't, I shall simply document very carefully all the occasions when this very secretive organisation keeps things secret.

[edit] Ah nvm I've found a copy of the january 2006 version of the user page. http://web.archive.org/web/20060111060701/...iki/User:Essjay Yes, Brandt got it from there.

This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Mon 26th September 2011, 7:20pm

[mbz1]

Daniel Brandt started this post http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=12701 in July 2006, some 9 months before the whole Essjay story came to light. Brandt said that Essjay was between 30 and 45, teaches theology to undergrads and grads, and is a tenured professor at a private university in the northeastern U.S.

He says he has these degrees: Bachelor of Arts in Religious Studies (B.A.), Master of Arts in Religion (M.A.R.), Doctorate of Philosophy in Theology (Ph.D.), Doctorate in Canon Law (JCD). I've searched on his degrees, and I've looked at religion-department faculty lists in the northeast by using this resource. No clues. He keeps to himself, and has been a Wikipedian only since February, 2005. Previous email addresses are essjay-wiki AT hotmail.com and essjay AT pacbell.net (some doubt about the latter). He specializes in Roman Catholicism, but is a liberal non-Catholic. He's an elder in the Disciples of Christ, a liberal Protestant denomination. He's probably had essays on social issues published in obscure, liberal religious publications within the past ten years.

How did Brandt know this? Unfortunately the project that wants all information to be free has deleted Essjay's user page and all historical revisions, and archives. Would that information have been on the user page in July 2006? If it was, is there any way of accessing it?

Actually it doesn't matter if I can't, I shall simply document very carefully all the occasions when this very secretive organisation keeps things secret.

[edit] Ah nvm I've found a copy of the january 2006 version of the user page. http://web.archive.org/web/20060111060701/...iki/User:Essjay Yes, Brandt got it from there.

There's a file on English wikipedia with his user page image, but why you remembered Essjay now, when at least one current member of ArbCom lied about his credentials too?

This post has been edited by mbz1: Mon 26th September 2011, 8:47pm

[Peter Damian]

There's a file on English wikipedia with his user page image, but why you remembered Essjay now, when at least one current member of ArbCom lied about his credentials too?

As I mentioned in another post here, I am researching a book on Wikipedia. Don't worry, I've found all the pages I need.

Which particular other lying Arbcom member did you have in mind?

[mbz1]

There's a file on English wikipedia with his user page image, but why you remembered Essjay now, when at least one current member of ArbCom lied about his credentials too?

As I mentioned in another post here, I am researching a book on Wikipedia. Don't worry, I've found all the pages I need.

Which particular other lying Arbcom member did you have in mind?

A former administrator Trusilver at his user page
is quoting his 13 years old daughter. When asked, if she wanted to continue editing wikipedia, the girl responded:No,

Because almost everyone there is a bunch of fakes who like Wikipedia because they have power over others.

So, as you could see even 13-years old says many people on wikipedia are a power hungry fakes. I personally do not believe that most wikipedians are fakes, but sadly there's a lot, and many of them are acting on behalf of trolls against content contributors. A popular administrator RickK had this to say before he left wikipedia for good

There is a fatal flaw in the system. Vandals, trolls and malactors are given respect, whereas those who are here to actually create an encyclopedia, and to do meaningful work, are slapped in the face and not given the support needed to do the work they need to do.There is no reason to continue here.

He said it in 2005, now in 2011 I could sign under every word.


I meant this guy. Does not look like he is an officer in Royal Navy

This post has been edited by mbz1: Mon 26th September 2011, 9:34pm

[melloden]

I meant this guy. Does not look like he is an officer in Royal Navy

Didn't we discuss this before? He was in the Royal Naval Reserve (T-H-L-K-D), which is a volunteer organization.

[Ottava]

I meant this guy. Does not look like he is an officer in Royal Navy

Didn't we discuss this before? He was in the Royal Naval Reserve (T-H-L-K-D), which is a volunteer organization.

Volunteer reserve forces are a little different from volunteer organizations. Volunteer is used in opposition to drafted. If needed, he could be shipped out. The US has similar things (Army, Air, and Naval reserves). They do have leadership, training, etc. It isn't like joining some random civic organization.


By the way, him stating that he could have been an officer isn't as big of a deal as it seems to be suggested: there are many commissioned and non-commissioned officer type positions. He was a kid proud of his basic position, and was instead exaggerated into someone trying to claim he was a captain or whatever.

This site has more info: "The Royal Naval Reserve is a part-time force of 2,300 trained men and women who are deployed with the Royal Navy in times of tension, humanitarian crisis, or conflict. They may be civilian but Reservists wear the same uniform and do much of the same training as the Regulars."

It isn't as shabby as people are making it out to be.

I mean, we have Arbs that plagiarized and did some things that actually mattered a lot. Poking at this guy merely because he was proud of his basic position seems a little weird.

This post has been edited by Ottava: Mon 26th September 2011, 10:32pm

[mbz1]

Poking at this guy merely because he was proud of his basic position seems a little weird.

Disagree. One cannot be proud of something he is not. I mean it is definitely something to be proud of, if one is in a volunteer in The Royal Naval Reserve, but this does not mean that to be proud of this one should claim he is an officer. I would not have brought this up, if he claimed he is in active service versus being in the reserve,but claiming he is an officer, is completely different story.

This post has been edited by mbz1: Tue 27th September 2011, 12:28am

[lilburne]

Poking at this guy merely because he was proud of his basic position seems a little weird.

Disagree. One cannot be proud of something he is not. I mean it is definitely something to be proud of, if one is in a volunteer in The Royal Naval Reserve, but this does not mean that to be proud of this one should claim he is an officer.

Queen Pride is an odd bitch that's for sure.