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Peter Damian
post Mon 3rd October 2011, 8:27pm
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I'm struggling to find any information on this one. Did Jimmy set it up in 1996, 1998, or 2000? Where did he get the money to set it up? Why were the servers in a shack in Tampa, Florida, when the main office was in San Diego? When did Jimmy move to San Diego?

Wikipedia, as always when it comes to such matters, is reticent.
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Kelly Martin
post Wed 5th October 2011, 12:36am
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Unfortunately, you can't rely on anything that Jimmy says for any purpose whatsoever. There is simply no way knowing when he's telling the truth and when he's lying, because he seems to lie without provocation and even often without purpose. He is the ultimate in unreliable sources.

Sadly, we'll probably never know. Bomis was, I believe, a Delaware corporation, which means its shareholder books are privileged. There's essentially no way to find out who owned how much, other than the statements of the principals, which are contradictory and untrustworthy.
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post Wed 5th October 2011, 8:33am
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 5th October 2011, 1:36am) *

Sadly, we'll probably never know. Bomis was, I believe, a Delaware corporation, which means its shareholder books are privileged. There's essentially no way to find out who owned how much, other than the statements of the principals, which are contradictory and untrustworthy.


Is it this kind of thing?
http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2008/04...c-its-got-to-go

What kind of country are you Americans running? A special state (Delaware?) with secrecy laws about company incorporation. Another special state (Florida?) where a creditor can take more than a million dollars of assets and secure them away from creditors. And Wikimedia, the organisation committed to transparency and the sum total of human knowledge, makes full use of these arrangements?

Will be an interesting theme for the book.
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post Wed 5th October 2011, 11:00am
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 5th October 2011, 1:36am) *

Sadly, we'll probably never know. Bomis was, I believe, a Delaware corporation, which means its shareholder books are privileged.
There's essentially no way to find out who owned how much, other than the statements of the principals, which are contradictory and untrustworthy.

Which mekes me wonder if there might be some other sort of shelter benefit Jimmy might be getting from living in the UK now.
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Is it this kind of thing?
http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2008/04...c-its-got-to-go

What kind of country are you Americans running? A special state (Delaware?) with secrecy laws about company incorporation.

A growing group of young people seem to think it's only a very few Americans actually running the place lately.
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Another special state (Florida?) where a creditor can take more than a million dollars of assets and secure them away from creditors.
And Wikimedia, the organisation committed to transparency and the sum total of human knowledge, makes full use of these arrangements?

Will be an interesting theme for the book.

US states are in some respects more similar to EU nations than to French Departments. Their ability to compete with one another is largely limited,
but where the limits aren't there (or clear, or enforced, etc.) they're rather shameless in their efforts to attract the wealthy folks.

And Mods: could we maybe shrink the photos above so that we can read this thread without the annoying distraction of horizontal scrolling?
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post Wed 5th October 2011, 9:10pm
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Wed 5th October 2011, 12:00pm) *

US states are in some respects more similar to EU nations than to French Departments.

Indeed, in some ways they are more independent than EU nations. In some areas, laws can be forced on all EU countries by majority vote that, under the US constitution, are matters for states hence beyond federal control.

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The kind that whupped the King who thought taxation without representation was a fair deal.

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Indeed, you only have to look at Washington DC, where many thousands of taxpayers live who enjoy full representation in the Senate ... er, I'll get back to you on that.
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post Wed 5th October 2011, 9:38pm
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QUOTE(Detective @ Wed 5th October 2011, 5:10pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 5th October 2011, 12:03pm) *

The kind that whupped the King who thought taxation without representation was a fair deal.

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Indeed, you only have to look at Washington DC, where many thousands of taxpayers live who enjoy full representation in the Senate ... er, I'll get back to you on that.

Tell me about it. angry.gif
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QUOTE(Malik Shabazz @ Wed 5th October 2011, 5:38pm) *

QUOTE(Detective @ Wed 5th October 2011, 5:10pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 5th October 2011, 12:03pm) *

The kind that whupped the King who thought taxation without representation was a fair deal.

evilgrin.gif

Indeed, you only have to look at Washington DC, where many thousands of taxpayers live who enjoy full representation in the Senate ... er, I'll get back to you on that.

Tell me about it. angry.gif

Technically the "representing" is supposed to be in the house. As a Pennsylvanian, my Senate voting power is a nearly vanishing fraction
compared to those sensible people in Utah or Alaska. dry.gif
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Peter Damian   Bomis   Mon 3rd October 2011, 8:27pm
Milton Roe   I'm struggling to find any information on thi...   Mon 3rd October 2011, 8:44pm
EricBarbour   Interestingly, name rhymes with "promise....   Mon 3rd October 2011, 9:29pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='285599' date='Mon ...   Mon 3rd October 2011, 9:45pm
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EricBarbour   Wikipedia, as always when it comes to such matters...   Mon 3rd October 2011, 8:48pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Peter Damian' post='285597' date='Mo...   Mon 3rd October 2011, 9:16pm
thekohser   Even Selina, the operator of WR, edited it. (And ...   Mon 3rd October 2011, 9:34pm
EricBarbour   With an edit like that, it makes me think Selina ...   Mon 3rd October 2011, 9:43pm
Kelly Martin   I am fairly certain that Wales was not an "eq...   Tue 4th October 2011, 7:06pm
Peter Damian   I am fairly certain that Wales was not an "e...   Tue 4th October 2011, 9:10pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Detective' post='285756' date='Wed ...   Thu 6th October 2011, 1:15am
thekohser   What kind of country are you Americans running? ...   Wed 5th October 2011, 11:03am
EricBarbour   Bomis was not a "search engine" per se, ...   Thu 6th October 2011, 4:33am
tarantino   Also, they've managed to convince archive.org...   Thu 6th October 2011, 5:23am
EricBarbour   There's no convincing necessary. If a domain ...   Thu 6th October 2011, 8:44am
Larry Sanger   Bomis was not a "search engine" per se,...   Thu 6th October 2011, 6:41pm
Peter Damian   After I left, Wikipedia replicated the same sort ...   Thu 6th October 2011, 6:58pm
Kelly Martin   Slashdot is something I also need to understand.Go...   Thu 6th October 2011, 7:14pm
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Peter Damian   Can someone translate the above posts (ODP - what ...   Thu 6th October 2011, 6:46pm
EricBarbour   Can someone translate the above posts (ODP - what...   Thu 6th October 2011, 9:39pm
SB_Johnny   What exactly is a 'web ring' for? What d...   Thu 6th October 2011, 10:03pm


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