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| Peter Damian |
Mon 3rd October 2011, 8:27pm
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I'm struggling to find any information on this one. Did Jimmy set it up in 1996, 1998, or 2000? Where did he get the money to set it up? Why were the servers in a shack in Tampa, Florida, when the main office was in San Diego? When did Jimmy move to San Diego?
Wikipedia, as always when it comes to such matters, is reticent.
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| Milton Roe |
Mon 3rd October 2011, 8:44pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 3rd October 2011, 1:27pm)  I'm struggling to find any information on this one. Did Jimmy set it up in 1996, 1998, or 2000? Where did he get the money to set it up? Why were the servers in a shack in Tampa, Florida, when the main office was in San Diego? When did Jimmy move to San Diego?
Wikipedia, as always when it comes to such matters, is reticent.
All web sources point to Bomis as dating from 1996. Interestingly, name rhymes with "promise." I'd been saying it wrong all this time.
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| EricBarbour |
Mon 3rd October 2011, 9:29pm
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 3rd October 2011, 1:44pm)  Interestingly, name rhymes with "promise." I'd been saying it wrong all this time. People sometimes called it "Bone Us", fyi......  You are welcome to pronounce it any way you wish. If it were not the incubator of Wikipedia, knowledge of it would have disappeared long ago and left no trace, like an absurdly long list of other dotcom failures. Oh, btw, here's the only existing photo of Bomis staff. Circa 2000. This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Thu 6th October 2011, 4:35am
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| Milton Roe |
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 3rd October 2011, 2:29pm)  QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 3rd October 2011, 1:44pm)  Interestingly, name rhymes with "promise." I'd been saying it wrong all this time. People sometimes called it "Bone Us", fyi......  You are welcome to pronounce it any way you wish. If it were not the incubator of Wikipedia, knowledge of it would have disappeared long ago and left no trace, like an absurdly long list of other dotcom failures. Oh, btw, here's the only existing photo of Bomis staff. Circa 2000.  So is that Larry Sanger, seated at right? Doh, I see that it is. All these people are identified: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bom...summer-2000.jpgAnd that's Jimbo third from the left, with arm around then-wife Christine, who is pregnant. Jimbo and Larry seem to have been separated-at-birth, in this photo. Interesting! Despite Jimbo's even longer beard in 2000, Jimbo and Larry looked far more alike THEN, than they do now. The identical round glasses help. I guess we tend to hire images of ourselves, eh?
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| Peter Damian |
Tue 4th October 2011, 6:48pm
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QUOTE(Larry Sanger @ Tue 4th October 2011, 7:27pm)  I'm pretty sure I have a copy of this picture in the basement, and another one too, which has Ed O'Connor in it (one of my favorite people from Bomis days). Oh, believe me, if people really, really wanted to, they could amass a really interesting collection of early Wikipedia-related memorabilia.
Larry - just the person. I am researching the pre-history of Wikipedia. I know Bomis was registered in 1996, but when did it actually set up in business in San Diego? Jimmy did not move there until 1998. Did it actually start in 1998? You say here http://www.larrysanger.org/roleinwp.htmlQUOTE It was Bomis that paid the bills for Wikipedia (including my paycheck), and Wales, Tim Shell, and Michael Davis were, to the best of my knowledge, equal partners and co-owners of Bomis, Inc. But Jimmy always claimed he was the majority partner. And what was Tim Shell's involvement? He always seemed a mysterious character. Regards, Edward This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Tue 4th October 2011, 6:52pm
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| Larry Sanger |
Thu 6th October 2011, 3:16am
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 4th October 2011, 2:48pm)  QUOTE(Larry Sanger @ Tue 4th October 2011, 7:27pm)  I'm pretty sure I have a copy of this picture in the basement, and another one too, which has Ed O'Connor in it (one of my favorite people from Bomis days). Oh, believe me, if people really, really wanted to, they could amass a really interesting collection of early Wikipedia-related memorabilia.
Larry - just the person. I am researching the pre-history of Wikipedia. I know Bomis was registered in 1996, but when did it actually set up in business in San Diego? Jimmy did not move there until 1998. Did it actually start in 1998? You say here http://www.larrysanger.org/roleinwp.htmlQUOTE It was Bomis that paid the bills for Wikipedia (including my paycheck), and Wales, Tim Shell, and Michael Davis were, to the best of my knowledge, equal partners and co-owners of Bomis, Inc. But Jimmy always claimed he was the majority partner. And what was Tim Shell's involvement? He always seemed a mysterious character. Regards, Edward I'll be interested in your book! I know Bomis.com, the search engine, was around in 1996 or 1997. I remember Jimmy Wales referring to it somehow; he might have tried to get me involved, or maybe it was just in his sig and I checked it out. I vaguely remember talking about it around 1997. My recollection, I don't know where--probably from talking to Tim--was that it was started and going strong-ish while they were in Chicago. I don't know when they moved to San Diego--1998 is possible as far as I know. They had been in the Pacific Beach office for a while by the time I got there in late January 2000, I think it was. I honestly can't remember how it was represented to me--who was the "majority partner." I'm pretty sure I never much cared, and I'm not sure why I should now. If you had asked me an hour ago, I would have hazarded a guess that they were all three equal partners, just as I wrote, but I don't know. It wouldn't surprise me if Michael Davis was majority partner. But if Wales says that he was majority partner, then he probably was, and I forgot that he said so when I wrote the above. Yes, yes, I know he's not a reliable source on stuff like this, but his mendacity does not usually extend to outright plain-and-simple lies like that. He usually employs misdirection, vagueness, innuendo, and other such shifty business. Tim is for me by far the least mysterious character of the three. I count him a friend. Unlike Jimmy, who was aloof from most Bomis folks, we socialized. He's very witty, and I've never caught him in a lie. I could be wrong, but I got the impression that he was Bomis' original programmer. When I was there he was sort of the managing editor of Bomis. I think he managed the guys who weeded through Bomis' links to fix dead ones, and seemed to be keeping it going. What Jimmy Wales was doing, exactly, I am not sure. I don't know why he kept Michael Davis' name secret. I remember being a little puzzled about that. In the earliest months, Tim was at least as involved in Wikipedia as Jimmy Wales. I'm pretty sure you could ask Tim for an interview. Another, possibly better person to interview would be the Bomis marketing guy, Jimmy's (ex) friend and "right hand man," Terry Foote. I also count him a friend. He's got some verrry interesting stories to tell, but I'll let him tell them when he's ready.
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| The Joy |
Thu 6th October 2011, 3:59am
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Wed 5th October 2011, 11:48pm)  QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 5th October 2011, 8:31pm)  QUOTE(Larry Sanger @ Wed 5th October 2011, 9:16pm) 
I know Bomis.com, the search engine, was around in 1996 or 1997.
Just what exactly was Bomis supposed to search for? Nookie. Indeed, Cedric even showed a naughty picture he got from Bomis, but it apparently is gone now. http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=27414
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Peter Damian Bomis Mon 3rd October 2011, 8:27pm    Milton Roe
I'm pretty sure I have a copy of this picture... Tue 4th October 2011, 6:40pm         GlassBeadGame
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='285792' date='... Thu 6th October 2011, 4:11am EricBarbour Wikipedia, as always when it comes to such matters... Mon 3rd October 2011, 8:48pm Milton Roe
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='285597' date='Mo... Mon 3rd October 2011, 9:16pm thekohser
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With an edit like that, it makes me think Selina ... Mon 3rd October 2011, 9:43pm Kelly Martin I am fairly certain that Wales was not an "eq... Tue 4th October 2011, 7:06pm Peter Damian
I am fairly certain that Wales was not an "e... Tue 4th October 2011, 9:10pm Kelly Martin Unfortunately, you can't rely on anything that... Wed 5th October 2011, 12:36am Peter Damian
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The kind that whupped the King who thought taxat... Wed 5th October 2011, 9:38pm     SB_Johnny
[quote name='Detective' post='285756' date='Wed 5... Wed 5th October 2011, 11:49pm      Milton Roe
[quote name='Detective' post='285756' date='Wed ... Thu 6th October 2011, 1:15am  thekohser
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Also, they've managed to convince archive.org... Thu 6th October 2011, 5:23am  EricBarbour
There's no convincing necessary. If a domain ... Thu 6th October 2011, 8:44am Larry Sanger
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After I left, Wikipedia replicated the same sort ... Thu 6th October 2011, 6:58pm   Kelly Martin Slashdot is something I also need to understand.Go... Thu 6th October 2011, 7:14pm Peter Damian On a separate but related note I am trying to sear... Thu 6th October 2011, 10:35am Peter Damian
On a separate but related note I am trying to sea... Thu 6th October 2011, 4:30pm  Larry Sanger
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='285827' date='Th... Thu 6th October 2011, 6:24pm Peter Damian Can someone translate the above posts (ODP - what ... Thu 6th October 2011, 6:46pm EricBarbour
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