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| the fieryangel |
Sun 6th November 2011, 11:01am
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In the project that I'm currently working on with Peter, Greg, and Eric, I'm writing the chapter on Users. In the section discussing the systemic bias, I'm going to try to go into detail as to the gender gap and possible reasons why this exists.
It's obvious why TS/TV individuals post as women, so that's pretty self-explanatory (dare I say "normal"?) However, it would seem that a great many non-TS/TV males contribute to WP as females, either via sock puppets (à la Kristen Erikson) and also as their main personae. I'm looking for people who would be willing to discuss how posting as females changes the experience on WP. I would also be interested in women who post as males and why they do that. (I know of at least one experience of this happening and I'm sure that there are more....) Just send me a private message here and we'll discuss it. |
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| The Adversary |
Wed 9th November 2011, 3:36pm
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Wr is the only place I have encountered males (above the age of 10) who does not know, or care, what a vagina is (Ottava is not the only one, Sigh.) Ok, for the ignorant; here is an educational video: |
| Ottava |
Wed 9th November 2011, 4:25pm
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Wr is the only place I have encountered males (above the age of 10) who does not know, or care, what a vagina is (Ottava is not the only one, Sigh.) Ok, for the ignorant; here is an educational video: You should really know better than to continue Alison's trolling. She made the comment because I used "vagina" instead of a more cruder word. She then tried to be technical, even though common usage especially by -females- as shown in the links, verifies my usage because there is really no polite word of describing the area people would shave there. |
| The Adversary |
Wed 9th November 2011, 7:16pm
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Wed 9th November 2011, 7:22pm
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Wed 9th November 2011, 7:46pm
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.. no polite word of describing the area people would shave there. Genital area. Pubic area, pubic region, bikini area, "down there", etc, etc, etc. ![]() Really? Because the "pubic" area, meaning the bone, wouldn't have led to also sarcastic and stupid comments? Or bikini area also referring to breasts? You were trolling and looking for any excuse, like you are now. An apology would be warranted, but you don't apologize for your ill behavior. I already proven that it was very common, and you have proven that you just want to cause problems. You are acting like a child. The Adversary: "Genital area." As I pointed out, Alison would have found some inane excuse to try and make the same claim. After all, genitals refer to the sex organs and not necessarily the skin around them. There is no defense of Alison blatantly trolling, and her current action and trying to bring it up shows that she is incapable of dealing with the actual critics that prove that TG is insanity. She hates that, knows she has no way to prevent the reality of it, and must turn to side games, shows, trolling, etc., to try and hide that fact. Johns Hopkins refuses to give those people sex changes and instead deems them mentally ill. There is no way around that, and it makes her case look utterly stupid. This post has been edited by Ottava: Wed 9th November 2011, 7:49pm |
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Wed 9th November 2011, 8:03pm
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.. no polite word of describing the area people would shave there. Genital area. Pubic area, pubic region, bikini area, "down there", etc, etc, etc. ![]() Really? Because the "pubic" area, meaning the bone, wouldn't have led to also sarcastic and stupid comments? Or bikini area also referring to breasts? Keyword: area Mons pubis = pubic mound, from the Latin. You done now? :roll eyes:EDIT: And, as I keep saying, there's no point in endless 'debate' with Ottava. He's impervious to reason ... (I'm going to take my own advice and stop posting now. This is a complete waste of time ...) |
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Wed 9th November 2011, 11:23pm
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EDIT: And, as I keep saying, there's no point in endless 'debate' with Ottava. He's impervious to reason ... (I'm going to take my own advice and stop posting now. This is a complete waste of time ...) You shouldn't have posted to begin with. You were trolling. You attack me, and you can't dispute that there is a substantial amount of people, including women, that use the phrase I use. Instead, you make all sorts of absurd and idiotic claims. The only reason why you are acting so embarrassingly is because you know that there is no justification for transgender anything because it is insanity and nothing else. |
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Thu 10th November 2011, 1:17pm
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EDIT: And, as I keep saying, there's no point in endless 'debate' with Ottava. He's impervious to reason ... You shouldn't have posted to begin with. You were trolling. You attack me, and you can't dispute that there is a substantial amount of people, including women, that use the phrase I use. {{citation needed}}(I'm going to take my own advice and stop posting now. This is a complete waste of time ...) Instead, you make all sorts of absurd and idiotic claims. The only reason why you are acting so embarrassingly is because you know that there is no justification for transgender anything because it is insanity and nothing else. Respondent realizes that the conversation is a total waste of time and stops. So Ottava throws a final response, tempting her -- or anyone else -- to point out how nuts he is. He's telling a woman what language women use. While it's possible that he heard someone say "shaved her vagina" somewhere, the world is vast. That he repeated this shows a lack of familiarity with the language, and maybe the anatomy, and that was the point. A sane person, who doesn't have a "kick me" act like Ottava, would just say, "Okay, weak usage. So?" But part of Ottava's act is that Ottava Is Always Right, which, to him, means that They are Wrong. Wrong, I tell you, and anyone who disagrees is a Total Idiot and has no right to speak in a public forum, and, if anyone has ever hurt anyone, they should be beheaded so they can't do it again. Right? Do I need to ask. After all, Ottava is Always Right. Ottava is busy on meta telling a steward what he can and cannot do. Ottava is Right, the steward should just give up and admit it. Funny, they never do. Did this act ever work for Ottava other than to confirm his views about himself? My guess is that, once in a while, someone says, to get him to shut up, "You're right." It's the power of intermittent reinforcement. Dangerous. Ottava, you are right. Didn't I say so? |
the fieryangel Non TS/TV males who post as women on WP Sun 6th November 2011, 11:01am
Ceoil Dude you post under the guise of a cat? Mon 7th November 2011, 2:56am
Ottava Most of the "TS/TV" identify as males ir... Mon 7th November 2011, 4:33am
carbuncle
Most of the "TS/TV" identify as males i... Mon 7th November 2011, 12:29pm
Ottava
Most of the "TS/TV" identify as males ... Mon 7th November 2011, 3:16pm
carbuncle
By the way, I saw at least 2 males who are known ... Mon 7th November 2011, 5:05pm
Ottava
By the way, I saw at least 2 males who are known... Mon 7th November 2011, 5:59pm
that one guy
[quote name='carbuncle' post='287993' date='Mon 7... Mon 7th November 2011, 6:18pm
carbuncle
Furthermore, the whole TS/TV thing is bs. Merely ... Mon 7th November 2011, 7:32pm
Ottava
[quote name='Ottava' post='287996' date='Mon 7th ... Mon 7th November 2011, 11:02pm
SB_Johnny
You are forgetting one thing: the old idea that ... Mon 7th November 2011, 11:17pm
A Horse With No Name Hell, bring Horsey... even [i]he might no more abo... Tue 8th November 2011, 3:56pm
Peter Damian There was an interesting study http://meta.wikimed... Mon 7th November 2011, 1:58pm
thekohser
...may actually be male.
Or skew male-like, or h... Mon 7th November 2011, 2:52pm
EricBarbour Non-judgmentally: Peter, it will be very difficult... Mon 7th November 2011, 7:34pm
that one guy Really Ottava, you're going to use NARTH as a ... Tue 8th November 2011, 1:02am
Somey Really Ottava, you're going to use NARTH as a ... Tue 8th November 2011, 1:51am
Ottava
[quote name='that one guy' post='288024' date='Mo... Tue 8th November 2011, 2:19am
Somey Really?
[url=http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hmn/W... Tue 8th November 2011, 3:13am
Ottava
[quote name='Ottava' post='288032' date='Mon 7th ... Tue 8th November 2011, 3:21am
thekohser My bad. Tue 8th November 2011, 2:25am
carbuncle Ottava, you may be conflating the sexual reassignm... Tue 8th November 2011, 3:27am
Ottava
Ottava, you may be conflating the sexual reassign... Tue 8th November 2011, 3:22pm
Alison
Alison
"Bear in mind that this is a guy who... Tue 8th November 2011, 4:06pm
Ottava
LOL - I'm not here to debate with you, Ottava... Tue 8th November 2011, 5:59pm

Abd Because I don't use words with a technical spe... Tue 8th November 2011, 11:09pm

Wikicrusher2
LOL - I'm not here to debate with you, Ottav... Wed 9th November 2011, 9:51am
SB_Johnny
Cleaning out my cat's litter box would be a f... Wed 9th November 2011, 1:14am
Somey Ottava, you're reading what you want the artic... Tue 8th November 2011, 3:53am
lonza leggiera
Ottava, you're reading what you [i]want the a... Fri 11th November 2011, 1:33am
that one guy There's one thing I've come to understand ... Tue 8th November 2011, 4:24am
Malleus
There's one thing I've come to understand... Tue 8th November 2011, 5:34pm
that one guy
There's one thing I've come to understan... Tue 8th November 2011, 5:40pm
Malleus
Good point. But I'd rather be Californian th... Tue 8th November 2011, 5:45pm
Alison LOL - it's Ottava, folks! Didn't we ha... Tue 8th November 2011, 9:06am
EricBarbour Yes, we did. And I'm going elsewhere. Tue 8th November 2011, 9:23am
the fieryangel
Yes, we did. And I'm going elsewhere.
Well,... Tue 8th November 2011, 1:35pm
Abd Case in point: Ottava's latest on meta. Ottava... Tue 8th November 2011, 11:35pm
Kelly Martin Could a mod please split off Ottava's trans-ba... Wed 9th November 2011, 2:10pm
SB_Johnny
Could a mod please split off Ottava's trans-b... Thu 10th November 2011, 5:38pm
that one guy
Could a mod please split off Ottava's trans-... Thu 10th November 2011, 5:44pm
SB_Johnny
[quote name='SB_Johnny' post='288244' date='Thu 1... Thu 10th November 2011, 7:01pm
that one guy
[quote name='SB_Johnny' post='288244' date='Thu ... Thu 10th November 2011, 7:43pm
SB_Johnny
I was hinting at the facepalm and the "Aw Je... Thu 10th November 2011, 10:31pm



Vigilant
EDIT: And, as I keep saying, there's no poi... Wed 9th November 2011, 11:54pm




Abd Poor, poor Jeffrey Peters...
I think you should p... Thu 10th November 2011, 1:09am


A Horse With No Name Or bikini area also referring to breasts?
Oh, t... Wed 9th November 2011, 8:05pm


Abd Really? Because the "pubic" area, meanin... Wed 9th November 2011, 10:43pm

SB_Johnny
Pubic area, pubic region, bikini area, "down... Thu 10th November 2011, 2:46pm
A Horse With No Name
:wtf:
Wr is the only place I have encountered ma... Wed 9th November 2011, 5:09pm
Wikicrusher2 So, Jeff, is it "more cruder" (sic!)... Thu 10th November 2011, 1:26am
Ottava
So, Jeff, is it "more cruder" (sic... Thu 10th November 2011, 1:47am
carbuncle If you don't like common usage, then go take i... Thu 10th November 2011, 3:10am
Ottava
If you don't like common usage, then go take ... Thu 10th November 2011, 2:10pm
that one guy
[quote name='carbuncle' post='288214' date='Wed 9... Thu 10th November 2011, 2:46pm
carbuncle
For your last statement - why not show where? No ... Thu 10th November 2011, 2:47pm

Ottava
I think everyone here knows that there is little ... Thu 10th November 2011, 3:20pm

carbuncle
We call them "fake breasts" when a woma... Thu 10th November 2011, 3:35pm

Ottava
[quote name='Ottava' post='288236' date='Thu 10th... Thu 10th November 2011, 5:33pm

Abd If you are adding things, it is a fake boob. There... Thu 10th November 2011, 7:20pm
Abd By the way, do you think that, with the anatomy cl... Thu 10th November 2011, 6:37pm
A Horse With No Name At this point in the discussion, may I introduce m... Thu 10th November 2011, 6:13pm
carbuncle Ottava, yo have made me curious about something. C... Thu 10th November 2011, 6:32pm
Ottava
Ottava, yo have made me curious about something. ... Thu 10th November 2011, 6:47pm
carbuncle
Heaven in the Catholic sense requires a mental un... Thu 10th November 2011, 7:11pm

Ottava
Heaven in the Catholic sense requires a mental u... Thu 10th November 2011, 11:41pm

Malleus You should never have surgery because you hate a p... Thu 10th November 2011, 11:58pm

Ottava
[quote name='Ottava' post='288278' date='Thu 10th... Fri 11th November 2011, 3:42am

carbuncle
If you are ripping out your teeth because you thi... Fri 11th November 2011, 4:36am


dogbiscuit
If you are ripping out your teeth because you th... Fri 11th November 2011, 9:54am


Ottava
[quote name='carbuncle' post='288287' date='Fri 1... Fri 11th November 2011, 2:26pm


Vigilant
It doesn't matter when I supplied the link, y... Fri 11th November 2011, 4:30pm

Vigilant Poor Jeffrey Peters,
Someone takes the time to re... Fri 11th November 2011, 8:00am

lonza leggiera
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lonza leggiera
Except no. I reported ... Fri 11th November 2011, 1:01pm
The Adversary
[quote name='carbuncle' post='288248' date='Thu 1... Thu 10th November 2011, 8:23pm
A Horse With No Name
PS: to Horsey: no, I will not introduce you ... Thu 10th November 2011, 9:52pm
Rhindle I got my wisdom teeth pulled. I'm doomed. :n... Fri 11th November 2011, 12:38am
Malleus
I got my wisdom teeth pulled. I'm doomed. :... Fri 11th November 2011, 3:36am
EricBarbour -_- Fri 11th November 2011, 5:36am
powercorrupts Scanning Abd through my fingers continuing to advo... Fri 11th November 2011, 8:57pm![]() ![]() |
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