Military of Algeria Options

[The Joy]

I was looking at Military of Algeria (T-H-L-K-D) and found two statements that Algeria and other "Arab" states were and still are in a state of war with Israel. The article even alleged that Algeria returned several Mig-29s back to Russia because of Israeli parts in the Migs. I read the citations for those statements and none of the sources discussed Israel. From what I gathered, Algeria was upset about the shoddy work on the Migs, not because of foreign parts. I do not know about Israel-Algeria relations, but I know a state of war does not exist between the two.

What would anyone have to gain by claiming that Algeria is hostile and a threat to Israel?

[mbz1]

There was a user on Wikipedia. This user (Lanternix) is a Coptic Arab, who lives in Alexandria, Egypt. This user was driven away (for now only from Wikipedia, not from Egypt yet) by nableezy. Here's what this user used to have on his user page (scroll down):

After what he has witnessed in both virtual and real life, this user has become a firm supporter of the state of Israel

So why an Arab, who lives in Egypt became "a firm supporter of the state of Israel"?
Does he believe Israel is all right and Arab countries are all wrong? I doubt it.
I'm, myself far from making such statements. But user Lanternix as myself probably sees
what is coming, if God forbid Israel is destroyed:
Sunnis would be murdering Shi'ites; Shi'ites would be murdering Sunnis, Egyptian Muslims would be murdering Egyptian Copts in even bigger proportion than they are now, Muslims in Syria will be murdering Muslims in Syria, a new Saddam Husein will invade Kuwait, and so on, and so on, and so on. It will happen because they hate as another Arab, a victim of Islamic terror put it.
And they do hate because only hate could explain an absolutely needless tagging the article Israeli Female Basketball Premier League. by nableezy.


Now Muslim hate towards Israel connects them, but if, Israel is gone there will be nothing to connect them any more. Think about Israel like about a join that connects bones-Arab countries. Most Arabs believe they will be better off without this join, but they are wrong because,if something is to happen to this join, the bones will fell apart,and break.
Maybe one day, when Muslims will learn to live in peace with each others they will not need Israel to connect them any more, but I am sure Muslims will learn to live in peace with Israel before they will learn to live in peace with each other.


So, "Anti-Israeli" is not always equals "anti-Semitic" , but it is always equals "a useful idiot".

This post has been edited by mbz1: Tue 15th November 2011, 4:22pm

[Malik Shabazz]

There was a user on Wikipedia. This user (Lanternix) is a Coptic Arab, who lives in Alexandria, Egypt.

I don't know how to break the news to you, mbz, but Copts aren't Arabs.

[mbz1]

There was a user on Wikipedia. This user (Lanternix) is a Coptic Arab, who lives in Alexandria, Egypt.

I don't know how to break the news to you, mbz, but Copts aren't Arabs.

Well, different scholars have a different opinion on this subject

While some non-Coptic authors claim that Copts in Egypt have an Arab identity while Copts in the West tend to identify as "non-Arab",[15][16] other non-Coptic scholars disagree, stating that "Copts are not Arabs" and that they predate the Arabs' arrival to Egypt .

[GlassBeadGame]

There was a user on Wikipedia. This user (Lanternix) is a Coptic Arab, who lives in Alexandria, Egypt.

I don't know how to break the news to you, mbz, but Copts aren't Arabs.

Well, different scholars have a different opinion on this subject

While some non-Coptic authors claim that Copts in Egypt have an Arab identity while Copts in the West tend to identify as "non-Arab",[15][16] other non-Coptic scholars disagree, stating that "Copts are not Arabs" and that they predate the Arabs' arrival to Egypt .

I was going to ask a friend about this but there is never a Copt around when you need one.

[radek]

There was a user on Wikipedia. This user (Lanternix) is a Coptic Arab, who lives in Alexandria, Egypt.

I don't know how to break the news to you, mbz, but Copts aren't Arabs.

Well, different scholars have a different opinion on this subject

While some non-Coptic authors claim that Copts in Egypt have an Arab identity while Copts in the West tend to identify as "non-Arab",[15][16] other non-Coptic scholars disagree, stating that "Copts are not Arabs" and that they predate the Arabs' arrival to Egypt .

I was going to ask a friend about this but there is never a Copt around when you need one.

Take a stroll down to your local Dunkin Donuts...

nobody cares about freaking algeria. so relax.

I sort of care. Interesting place, had a friend from there once. That's a weird/assholish thing to say.

[Wikifan]

I sort of care. Interesting place, had a friend from there once. That's a weird/assholish thing to say.

i mean nobody cares about algeria enough to defame it. tarc inferring that editors are out to "get" algeria.

[radek]

I sort of care. Interesting place, had a friend from there once. That's a weird/assholish thing to say.

i mean nobody cares about algeria enough to defame it. tarc inferring that editors are out to "get" algeria.

Come on, this is Wikipedia we're talking about. There's certainly people out there who care enough to defame it. There's people on Wikipedia who care enough to defame obscure cartoon characters, local county coroners, completely unknown species of mollusk, esoteric aesthetic movements which lasted for a month or two, a couple of lines in a poem written by some loser a couple hundred years ago, mountains which don't rise up to people's expectations (honestly, I've seen the smaller mountains really get it in some of these fights), particular numbers get a short shift (like 58345.3474 - where is the stub on that one???), Trabants and Yugos, dirt, dust, ether and soil, ethnic groups which haven't existed for centuries, centuries during which not much might have happened, as well as abstraction like truth, justice and beauty, which technically speaking, should be beyond defamation. Algeria (please capitalize it next time!) is probably pretty high on the defamers list, all things considering.

This post has been edited by radek: Tue 15th November 2011, 1:44am

[Wikifan]

Come on, this is Wikipedia we're talking about. There's certainly people out there who care enough to defame it.

okay, i guess there are some people who hate algeria enough to sully its wikipedia page.

so far though the community hasn't identified any serious issues with algeria. arbpia is almost 100% israel/palestine/hamas/hezbollah.

tarc's "vibes" didn't add up and seemed to be more reactionary than anything else. algeria is not a hugely important country as far as the conflict is concerned. my posts were aimed at tarc's harsh interpretation of clearly meaningless edits.

[Tarc]

tarc's "vibes" didn't add up

My vibes add up quite fine, Wikiboy. You dug up a single Jewish newspaper that did little more than repeat what it found in an unnamed Algerian newspaper. I realize that this is what passes for adequate sourcing when making your typical, biased, Israel-can-do-no-wrong cheerleading edits to various pages but it really don't hold up well elsewhere.