IRC examples, let's have them please Options

[Peter Damian]

As another strand of my work for the UK Charity Commission on how well WMUK is controlling and monitoring Wikipedia, I would like recent IRC logs. The smuttier and more juvenile, the better. Extra barnstars for prominent Wikipedians involved.

Thanking you all in advance!

[Kelly Martin]

The #wikipedia channel (the one that Ottava compulsively logs) has had absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia for at least six years. All the dirty secret scheming takes place in private channels that Ottava isn't allowed in. Freenode is littered with IRC trolls; they're all over the network. On another channel that I used to frequent there, we had some guy convince the channel ownership that he could "help them fight spammers". Turns out he was a spammer. A lot of these type of people are regulars at #wikipedia because the channel is so laxly policed. And there are running issues with freenode management as well.

In any case, while you can, no doubt, find lots of superficially salacious garbage trolling in that sewer, none of it is of any real value. The officialdom will just deny any connection to or control over it, and any log you use to try to prove anything about a specific individual will be deflected with the usual denials ("that log is fabricated" and "you can't prove that was me" are usually fairly early on).

[Peter Damian]

The #wikipedia channel (the one that Ottava compulsively logs) has had absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia for at least six years.

On the contrary it has many admin names that I recognise. That's all that is needed for this bit. It's one of many bits of evidence to show how the people who administer Wikipedia behave. Jeff has sent me about 6MB of logs, and a simple word count on 'fuck' and 'cunt' is a good start.

The officialdom will just deny any connection to or control over it, and any log you use to try to prove anything about a specific individual will be deflected with the usual denials ("that log is fabricated" and "you can't prove that was me" are usually fairly early on).

Good. One of my basic principles is to get people to deny things very early on, preferably in writing. Then you can forget about difficult issues about whether the thing they denied was ethical or not, and focus on the ethics of lying. This always works, although it takes time and patience.

All the dirty secret scheming takes place in private channels that Ottava isn't allowed in.

Evidence please! And logs!


This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Sun 27th November 2011, 9:04am