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| Peter Damian |
Thu 1st December 2011, 1:21pm
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This may infuriate the “Don’t discuss Wikipedia at all” party and may be send instantly to the Annex, but I’ll post it anyway. There is a proposed article for the Signpost, draft here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wik...articles_debate . It is interesting: the gist is that there have been very few good featured articles since 2008. They are all about hurricanes and US roads and obscure insects. But donors give money to Wikipedia because they they want a better Wikipedia for readers, not editors. Why is Wikipedia incentivising the high production of low importance articles and discouraging the opposite?
This has kicked off a terrible row. The editor proposed to run the story http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=462131614 and there is a furious argument on his talk page. I’m not sure of the politics, but I think the FA crew don’t like the article, for obvious reasons, and are trying to have it pulled. On the other side are the WMF crew suggesting that the FA process be opened up. This problem would be solved in a real business by having a model with some sort of marketing strategy. Decide what the target audience should be, decide what articles appeal to that audience, and get together a team of people that can write these. Keeping the staff happy (not ‘the community’) would be important, but secondary, and balancing these often opposing forces is the art of good management. But Wikipedia doesn’t have this. As one commenter says “there's nothing that the Foundation or any Wikipedian has to offer that can mechanistically determine which FAs will be written. The motivators are collaboration, reputation and pride of accomplishment.” |
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| Peter Damian |
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![]() I have as much free time as a Wikipedia admin! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 4,400 Joined: Tue 18th Dec 2007, 9:25pm Member No.: 4,212 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward B---ner" <peter.damian@btinternet.com> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] "Vital Articles" underperforming? Interesting that Theology is not a 'vital article'. As for philosophy, none of the main philosophical schools (nominalism, realism, scepticism, empiricism, rationalism, existentialism etc) are mentioned. Why is this? QUOTE ----- Original Message ----- From: <foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> To: <peter.damian@btinternet.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 5:50 PM Subject: Your message to foundation-l awaits moderator approval Your mail to 'foundation-l' with the subject Re: [Foundation-l] "Vital Articles" underperforming? Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post to moderated list This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Sun 4th December 2011, 5:53pm |
Peter Damian Vital articles debate Thu 1st December 2011, 1:21pm
Ottava
This may infuriate the “Don’t discuss Wikiped... Thu 1st December 2011, 1:43pm
Kevin
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='289924' date='Th... Thu 1st December 2011, 2:23pm
Eppur si muove Some of this has been discussed in the threads on ... Thu 1st December 2011, 4:10pm
Casliber
So, for me, the most valuable articles on Wikipe... Fri 2nd December 2011, 10:41am
thekohser
I still can't get my head around who would go... Fri 2nd December 2011, 12:10pm

iii
I still can't get my head around who would g... Sun 4th December 2011, 3:02pm
Eppur si muove
[quote name='Eppur si muove' post='289936' date='... Fri 2nd December 2011, 12:29pm
Ottava
As for your point, these may be within the range,... Fri 2nd December 2011, 1:18pm
Eppur si muove
Sadly, I was never able to finish that page - I u... Fri 2nd December 2011, 2:51pm
Ottava
[quote name='Ottava' post='290017' date='Fri 2nd ... Fri 2nd December 2011, 3:05pm
Jim Oh shit... :wacko:
OR has found someone who... Fri 2nd December 2011, 3:29pm
Eppur si muove Right. So, yes, the policies get in the way of the... Fri 2nd December 2011, 3:31pm
Kelly Martin And if they paid me, I'd probably be prevented... Fri 2nd December 2011, 5:08pm
Eppur si muove
And if they paid me, I'd probably be prevente... Fri 2nd December 2011, 11:35pm
Maunus The deal is this. Not all editors can write FAs. E... Sun 4th December 2011, 10:05pm
Ottava
The only way to get general articles to FA status... Mon 5th December 2011, 4:15pm![]() ![]() |
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