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| radek |
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 13th December 2011, 5:06pm)  QUOTE(cookiehead @ Tue 13th December 2011, 5:18pm)
Cla68 does not profit off of Wikipedia, yet contributes 10,000% more to it than Jimbo. Jimbo profits from his "founder" status on Wikipedia.
Why is Jimmy so hostile to Chuck Ainsworth?
Because Chuck is in the right.
I like your Wikipedia User page, Cookie: QUOTE I like to go round articles putting {fact} in for minor claims of no controversy whatsoever, because I'm trying to pad my edit counts. It's important to me. [citation needed]
I like to open up articles with absolutely no sourcing, and make spacing edits to info boxes. Article content be damned.
I'm also now "on record" by some social climbing whack job who goes around looking for anti-semites where they aren't, instead of improving wikipedia articles.
Learned today that there's a hidden "site I like" qualifier in WP:RS.
I'm very popular in Canada, where block evading ninjas consider me a sexist.
This user thinks User:Cla68 is a benefit to Wikipedia They haven't banned you yet? Just *who* are you?! They're going to start thinking you're me! Personally I like the first entry on the talk page, though it's probably more applicable to Commons: WP:YOURDOODLESUCKS |
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| iii |
Wed 14th December 2011, 5:10am
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QUOTE(cookiehead @ Mon 12th December 2011, 4:25pm)
This brings up a point I think often overlooked by the WP Elite in their disdain for "IP editors"....IP editors are actually more trustworthy stewards of the WP community..."you know where they live" so to speak....the rest of us Anonymous kooky name alias editors get to hide who we are and where we are editing from (like what company or government agency). Some anonymous editors even use more than one alias.
IP editors meanwhile are easily traceable by all WP editors. You can "geolocate" if someone is a corporate or government "lobbyist" without having to be a part of the Wiki Police. No favors required.
WP should allow editing only with a verified "real name" or otherwise post IP addresses next to each edit/alias.
But I guess that would take the fun out of what appears to be WP's #1 goal, to be a social media game.
This. User accounts on Wikipedia are onerous collars of discipline that are meant to subject the human being who knows the password to the account to arcane and arbitrary rules. If you follow the rules and pay enough lip-service, the "community" will come to "like" you. Alternatively, if you point out that the emperor has no clothes, if you broadcast how shaky their infrastructure is, or if you ignore their arbitrary rules, the "community" will come to "dislike" you. As a person. The person behind the user account. The freak show that is WR comes in part from the fact that many of the ex-contributors here were hoodwinked into thinking that user accounts were an attractive feature of the website. They are, rather, the means to Party Membership into their 1984-like cult. And WR is Emmanuel Goldstein. |
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| EricBarbour |
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Funny thing is, III is correct. Plus: Jimbo posted about the strike on the admin noticeboard on Saturday, and it was roundly ignored. I suspect that, even with a favorable vote, this will go nowhere. It is a wargame and a drug, and No One Is Permitted To Take Away Their Drug. If anyone at the WMF actually does work up the nerve to shut down the servers, even for a few hours, the resulting shitrain will be massive. The person who did the deed will be offered up for ritual slaughter.
Cowards......all of them, snivelling cowards.....This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Wed 14th December 2011, 7:20am |
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| TungstenCarbide |
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 14th December 2011, 7:18am) Funny thing is, III is correct. Plus: Jimbo posted about the strike on the admin noticeboard on Saturday, and it was roundly ignored. I suspect that, even with a favorable vote, this will go nowhere. It is a wargame and a drug, and No One Is Permitted To Take Away Their Drug. If anyone at the WMF actually does work up the nerve to shut down the servers, even for a few hours, the resulting shitrain will be massive. The person who did the deed will be offered up for ritual slaughter.
Cowards......all of them, snivelling cowards.....It should have been proposed by someone with a little bit of je ne se qua - Jimbo just doesn't have it. This post has been edited by TungstenCarbide: Wed 14th December 2011, 7:28am |
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| EricBarbour |
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QUOTE SOPA has earned the dubious honor of facilitating Internet censorship in the name of fighting online infringement. The Wikimedia Foundation opposed that legislation, but we should be clear that Wikimedia has an equally strong commitment against copyright violations. The Wikimedia community, which has developed an unparalleled expertise in intellectual property law, spends untold hours ensuring that our sites are free of infringing content. In a community that embraces freely-licensed information, there is no room for copyright abuses. Bullshit. Commons contains thousands of images snatched from Flickr, Photobucket, and Picasa, usually taken with no attempt to verify ownership or permissions. I even know which admins are doing this, and have been doing this for years. If Geoff really was so smart, he wouldn't work for Jimbo's Folly. |
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| Ottava |
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 14th December 2011, 3:40am) QUOTE SOPA has earned the dubious honor of facilitating Internet censorship in the name of fighting online infringement. The Wikimedia Foundation opposed that legislation, but we should be clear that Wikimedia has an equally strong commitment against copyright violations. The Wikimedia community, which has developed an unparalleled expertise in intellectual property law, spends untold hours ensuring that our sites are free of infringing content. In a community that embraces freely-licensed information, there is no room for copyright abuses. Bullshit. Commons contains thousands of images snatched from Flickr, Photobucket, and Picasa, usually taken with no attempt to verify ownership or permissions. I even know which admins are doing this, and have been doing this for years. If Geoff really was so smart, he wouldn't work for Jimbo's Folly. You are forgetting that the main teeth deal with 1. foreign websites and 2. ad revenue. Wikipedia has neither. Now, if the Germans managed to get their own local servers, then the law may affect them and their porny ways.  |
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| thekohser |
Wed 14th December 2011, 4:17pm
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Geoff says: QUOTE The result is that, under court order, Wikimedia would be tasked to review millions upon millions of sourced links, locate the links of the so-called “foreign infringing sites,” and block them from our articles or other projects. It costs donors’ money and staff resources to undertake such a tremendous task, and it must be repeated every time a prosecutor delivers a court order from any federal judge in the United States on any new “foreign infringing site.” Blocking links runs against our culture of open knowledge, especially when surgical solutions to fighting infringing material are available. Hey, dipwad... what do you think the WikiNazis are doing on a daily basis with the "Spam Blacklist", where they censor sites that aren't even spamming? Oh, I see someone already made that point in the blog comments: QUOTE Evan Prodromou Says: December 14th, 2011 at 07:45 I oppose SOPA and support Wikimedia and Wikipedia. But I think your argument is dangerously weak. MediaWiki already has a domain-blacklisting extension, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist . URLs with domains in the blacklist can not be added to an article. It’s in use on English Wikipedia; it might be in use on more sites. It would not require an undue amount of work to add new domains to the blacklist. The extension includes scripts to scan for URLs in existing articles when you add new ones to the blacklist. SOPA may be bad, but I’m not sure the argument that it would be hard to comply is coherent. |
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| lilburne |
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 14th December 2011, 5:31pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 14th December 2011, 5:00pm) I think we should tell Congress to stop online piracy. Thanks for that, I'm finding it hard to get the other side of this story. This one is also interesting http://vimeo.com/32592166particularly some of the moronic comments (corporates are so obviously evil, aren't they). We sell design and manufacturing software across the world, a lot of US companies use the software to make the products and parts that everyone here will use everyday. We have a number of company forums that support customers. Daily we get an influx of spam messages posted onto the forums with links to websites advertising counterfeit goods of our customers. Messages advertising send us a genuine part and we'll give you a price on making N copies. Design and manufacturing companies lose billions each year. |
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