 Oyo Empire, Does it still exist? |
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| Emperor |
 Mon 26th December 2011, 2:38am
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The Oyo Empire article claims that this empire still exists. Is this true?
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| TungstenCarbide |
Mon 26th December 2011, 3:10am
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QUOTE(Emperor @ Mon 26th December 2011, 2:38am)  According to Dierk Lange, professor of African History at the University of Bayreuth, Germany, yes. |
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| Emperor |
Mon 26th December 2011, 1:06pm
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QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sun 25th December 2011, 10:10pm) QUOTE(Emperor @ Mon 26th December 2011, 2:38am) According to Dierk Lange, professor of African History at the University of Bayreuth, Germany, yes. Cool. They must have some awesome postage stamps. |
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| Michaeldsuarez |
Mon 26th December 2011, 2:49pm
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QUOTE(Emperor @ Sun 25th December 2011, 9:38pm) Many of these states still exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_traditional_states |
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| Zoloft |
Mon 26th December 2011, 7:51pm
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 26th December 2011, 6:49am) QUOTE(Emperor @ Sun 25th December 2011, 9:38pm) Many of these states still exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_traditional_states Looks like there are still some Oyo monarchs rattling around. Reminds me of Indian Rajahs. This post has been edited by Zoloft: Mon 26th December 2011, 7:54pm |
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| Silver seren |
Mon 26th December 2011, 9:24pm
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The issue is that, as you guys pointed out, some of the leaders still exist and the people do. Personally, I wouldn't really consider that a continuation of the Oyo Empire, but of the Oyo people. But it's really just an opinion thing, since it can go both ways.
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| everyking |
Wed 28th December 2011, 8:25pm
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Mon 26th December 2011, 10:24pm) The issue is that, as you guys pointed out, some of the leaders still exist and the people do. Personally, I wouldn't really consider that a continuation of the Oyo Empire, but of the Oyo people. But it's really just an opinion thing, since it can go both ways. Obviously, it's not a sovereign political entity, and hasn't been for a long time. There's a traditional ruler who plays a symbolic role for his people, but there isn't any "empire". |
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| Detective |
Wed 28th December 2011, 9:40pm
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There was a big shake-up in local government in England and Wales last century and lots of boroughs got abolished. To ease the wounded civic pride of these places, they made a provision that former boroughs could have powerless councils that could appoint mayors who would continue to use the mayoral regalia. Maybe Nigeria has similarly allowed a phantom empire to remain in existence with a powerless emperor?
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| Emperor |
Thu 29th December 2011, 4:27pm
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It's a tough call. I think it's kind of misleading to say that an empire exists when it lacks any geographic borders, military, or power to collect taxes. On the other hand, the people are there and they seem to have some sort of organization and official recognition.
At any rate, it's an interesting story. That guy doing the research should try to write a book. |
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