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Tue 27th December 2011, 10:04pm
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I guess Ashley wants to delete the rest of his embarrassing uploads without the fuss of having to ask an admin... QUOTE I would like to put myself forward for admin tools. Over the last year I have committed to Commons projects, mostly in my role as a volunteer leading the GLAM UK programme, my work as an OTRS volunteer (for which having tools would mean a wider scope of the types of ticket I would pick up) and also my work as a trusted user (using my own scraping tool to help check and empty the Flickr backlog queue of dubious uploads every now and then). I run Faebot, though I recently paused in using my iMacro scripts as I would like to move to more standard batch upload tools for larger upload projects. In 2012 I will be part of a number of Commons projects and partnerships, including my continuing involvement in the future batch upload tool and some very high quality uploads with our UK GLAM partners; though it would always be useful to have a GLAM-knowledgeable admin available to help out, more important will be my experience of helping with all types of admin tasks on Commons to inform these projects as well as continuing the support I already give to the institutions on how to encourage Wikimedians to join in with making these projects a success, as well as promoting the use of simple policies for copyright and attribution. Fæ (talk) 18:45, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
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Thu 29th December 2011, 2:26pm
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Some material that isn't available on Fæ's talk page on WP (except to those with oversighter bits): QUOTE As I mentioned earlier I’m planning on doing a piece on Wikimedia governance and admin practices, probably using your rise to the positions of administrator on the English language Wikipedia and Board Member of Wikimedia UK as a case study. My name is Dan Murphy. Though I’m a reporter/editor at the Christian Science Monitor, I won’t be doing this story for them (for 3 reasons: I’ll be writing this from a first person perspective, something the CSM rarely does; it’s outside my remit; and some of the material I’ll need to cover will be too explicit for us).
I’ve also emailed this note to you with my personal email and phone number included. I append it here in the interest of full transparency, which I hope you’ll appreciate. Here are my questions: 1. Some of your statements on Wikimedia projects have confused me. You sometimes imply that there’s doubt that User:Teahot and User:Ash were not in fact, you. Could you address this directly? Did you or did you not control those two accounts? From my perspective and investigation it sure seems that you did. 2. The pictures of a half-naked man in bondage positions that were uploaded to commons by the User:Teahot account look a lot like you. Were you the model? If not, how did you come to own that photograph? (I suppose if you insist that you didn’t control the Ash/Teahot accounts, you wouldn’t be in a position to know). 3. Did you privately request the deletion of those pictures? If so, why? If you didn’t, what do you know about the decision to delete the images– at who’s request, and so on? 4. You’ve stated on multiple occasions that either “stalking” and/or “harassment” led to your “vanishing” (in the Wikipedia sense) as User:Ash. As someone involved in examining your editing at the RFC/U at the time you disappeared, I found this to be an implied attack on me and others and I found it offensive. In my mind, I was simply pulling on threads that indicated you had fabricated sourcing and stood in the way of article improvement. Why did you go? If you really feared for your safety (and that of your family if memory serves) why did you return under a new identity so quickly, that you then went on to publicly and clearly connect to your real name? 5. Do you think uploaders of pictures to commons should retain the right to withdraw the permissions they’ve given if they have second thoughts? This seems to have been done as a favor to you, (the bondage pictures) but commons practice (and some deletion discussions you’ve been involved in there recently) indicates this is generally frowned upon. This certainly looks like the case of a double standard, of different rules for the inner circle. Do I have this wrong? If so, can you explain how? 6. I have no particular concern or interest in your sexual habits. But examination of your editing requires that sexual content be dealt with – since that was a big portion of your work on Wikipedia as Ash and continues to be a major interest at commons as Fae. The biggest concern at the RFC/U for “Ash” was the misuse of sources, including claims they contained information they did not, in fact, contain. Do you dispute this was accurate? If not, did you disclose to Wikimedia UK your past account and the concerns of others before you were voted in? 7. I fully intend (after reviewing the old RFC/U and the links from that time) to write about the concerns about your editing then. In addition to what looked like deliberate misuse of sources, you also insisted on using industry PR (the “grabby” awards and so on) as reliable sources. The problem with those sources was not that they’re porn connected, but that they were marketing tools in which “facts” (physical measurements, personal preferences, real names, real ages etc…) are typically fabricated. Do you still think those are good sources for writing accurate and neutral encyclopedia articles about living people? 8. What was the process to become a Wikimedia UK board member? I.e. who voted, how were you nominated, stuff like that. 9. As Ash you created (and strenuously argued for the retention of an article called) “List of Gay Bathhouse Regulars.” Articles like this alarm me not just as a BLP issue (though false inclusion of a person in this article by a malicious IP was a near certainty at some point and that's alarming enough). They are at best a trivial cross categorization (the mundane example would be “People who like to go to the pub”) and at worst something that could cause real world harm and distress to someone who may have indeed frequented gay bathhouses, but would prefer some privacy in this manner (I have similar concerns about the marginal porn bios you spent so much time editing – many people who move on from porn don’t want to be remembered that way. Unless they’re folks of great fame, with extent sources to write serious biographies on, they don't need to be so immortalized). Why did you think this was an “encyclopedic” topic? Have your views changed on this? If so, how and why? 10. I’m still investigating this, but it appears that you’ve been involved in reaching out as a Wikimedia UK board member to MPs and other folks in the UK about Wikipedia’s safeguards against defamation, against inappropriate pornography (i.e. of kids), against general error. If I’m correct in this assumption, can you either explain to me what you’ve been telling them about editorial controls or direct me to presentation materials you’ve used?
Whew! That’s a lot for a start. It will probably be some weeks before I’m ready to publish anything and will certainly ping you when it’s getting close. Feel free to call or email at any time.
Regards Dan Murphy
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carbuncle Ashley Van Haeften, Commons admin? Tue 27th December 2011, 10:04pm EricBarbour It appears that he will get it, too. So far only O... Tue 27th December 2011, 10:23pm carbuncle
It appears that he will get it, too. So far only ... Tue 27th December 2011, 11:30pm  carbuncle And I have my answer already... Tue 27th December 2011, 11:52pm EricBarbour :D
(Where did he post that?) Wed 28th December 2011, 12:09am lilburne He seems to be feltching here:
http://commons.wiki... Wed 28th December 2011, 12:26am Eppur si muove Muckbutt seems to be plastering the rfa with comme... Wed 28th December 2011, 2:51am Peter Damian Bali ultimate blocked on commons, with all sorts o... Wed 28th December 2011, 8:08am EricBarbour
Why is it that the people who scream 'Wikiped... Wed 28th December 2011, 8:20am  tarantino
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='291850' date='We... Wed 28th December 2011, 3:26pm   lilburne
It looks like there will soon be more main strea... Wed 28th December 2011, 4:14pm   SB_Johnny
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='291850' date='W... Wed 28th December 2011, 5:37pm    EricBarbour
[url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?tit... Wed 28th December 2011, 6:10pm Michaeldsuarez
He seems to be feltching here:
[url=http://common... Wed 28th December 2011, 8:33pm Michaeldsuarez http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...... Wed 28th December 2011, 9:05pm Kelly Martin Can someone please point out the post on this thre... Wed 28th December 2011, 9:34pm  Michaeldsuarez
[quote name='Michaeldsuarez' post='291873' date='... Wed 28th December 2011, 10:01pm   lilburne
[quote name='Kelly Martin' post='291875' date='We... Wed 28th December 2011, 10:04pm  Cla68
Can someone please point out the post on this thr... Thu 29th December 2011, 1:59am Peter Damian Apart from the fact that "Fred the Oyster... Wed 28th December 2011, 10:13pm SB_Johnny I actually bothered to oppose. I feel bad for the ... Thu 29th December 2011, 12:22am RMHED
I feel bad for the 'crats... I've been t... Thu 29th December 2011, 12:54am  SB_Johnny
I feel bad for the 'crats... I've been ... Thu 29th December 2011, 3:15am Peter Damian
I actually bothered to oppose. I feel bad for the... Thu 29th December 2011, 7:26am  lilburne
[quote name='SB_Johnny' post='291893' date='Thu 2... Thu 29th December 2011, 9:09am EricBarbour
:grin: Now, which of you reprobates posted that ... Thu 29th December 2011, 2:18am Eppur si muove
:grin: Now, which of you reprobates posted that... Thu 29th December 2011, 2:31am  mbz1
[quote name='EricBarbour' post='291904' date='Thu... Thu 29th December 2011, 2:58am   Eppur si muove
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contri... Thu 29th December 2011, 3:17am    mbz1
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr... Thu 29th December 2011, 3:51am     Eppur si muove
[quote name='Eppur si muove' post='291916' date='... Thu 29th December 2011, 10:36am Detective As ever, Herbythyme can eventually be persuaded to... Thu 29th December 2011, 11:22am lilburne
As ever, Herbythyme can eventually be persuaded t... Thu 29th December 2011, 11:34am  Detective
He still has a + vote registered against his name... Thu 29th December 2011, 10:23pm Michaeldsuarez http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...... Thu 29th December 2011, 2:08pm  SB_Johnny
Some material that isn't available on Fæ... Thu 29th December 2011, 4:35pm thekohser What is Dan Murphy's e-mail address? Thu 29th December 2011, 3:51pm lilburne
What is Dan Murphy's e-mail address?
He has... Thu 29th December 2011, 3:57pm  thekohser
What is Dan Murphy's e-mail address?
He ha... Thu 29th December 2011, 10:31pm SB_Johnny
What is Dan Murphy's e-mail address?
Uh, LMG... Thu 29th December 2011, 4:23pm Kelly Martin It seems fairly likely that Van Haeften will be re... Thu 29th December 2011, 4:37pm mbz1
It seems fairly likely that Van Haeften will be r... Thu 29th December 2011, 4:42pm  melloden
It seems fairly likely that Van Haeften will be ... Thu 29th December 2011, 4:44pm   Ottava
[quote name='mbz1' post='291962' date='Thu 29th D... Thu 29th December 2011, 4:48pm Kelly Martin It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will be... Thu 29th December 2011, 5:47pm mbz1
It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will b... Thu 29th December 2011, 6:20pm  Kelly Martin
It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will ... Thu 29th December 2011, 6:51pm mbz1
It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will b... Thu 29th December 2011, 11:15pm  Vigilant
It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will ... Thu 29th December 2011, 11:21pm  Peter Damian
But where do you see embarrassment for Jimbo ?
OK... Thu 29th December 2011, 11:38pm   Cunningly Linguistic It's very embarrassing to have a picture of y... Fri 30th December 2011, 12:06am   mbz1
[quote name='mbz1' post='291991' date='Thu 29th D... Fri 30th December 2011, 12:22am  Kelly Martin But where do you see embarrassment for Jimbo ?
OK,... Fri 30th December 2011, 1:26am   mbz1
[quote name='mbz1' post='291991' date='Thu 29th D... Fri 30th December 2011, 2:27am   tarantino
If and when Mr. Murphy's article, reportedly ... Fri 30th December 2011, 3:16am  melloden
It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will ... Fri 30th December 2011, 5:43am   thekohser
"very good article" my ass. Gregory rar... Fri 30th December 2011, 3:18pm    melloden
[quote name='melloden' post='292017' date='Fri 30... Fri 30th December 2011, 4:00pm     Fusion
Also, I feel obligated to point out that 58,000 p... Sat 31st December 2011, 12:04pm      thekohser
It is not the same. Melloden said that one artic... Sat 31st December 2011, 3:29pm       melloden
It is not the same. Melloden said that one arti... Sat 31st December 2011, 4:10pm        thekohser
I'm rather impressed.
Well then, I'm flo... Sat 31st December 2011, 7:08pm    Fusion
Anyway, in less than 18 months of writing for Exa... Fri 30th December 2011, 10:12pm     thekohser
Anyway, in less than 18 months of writing for Ex... Sat 31st December 2011, 8:04am Peter Damian And look what happens next (as was certainly bound... Thu 29th December 2011, 6:24pm Michaeldsuarez
And look what happens next (as was certainly boun... Thu 29th December 2011, 6:37pm SB_Johnny
And look what happens next (as was certainly boun... Thu 29th December 2011, 7:17pm  lilburne
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='291970' date='Th... Thu 29th December 2011, 8:11pm Ottava
And look what happens next (as was certainly boun... Thu 29th December 2011, 7:58pm Peter Damian There are many loyal Wikipedians of the North Kore... Thu 29th December 2011, 11:03pm Ottava
My recollection is that our John Vandenberg gave ... Thu 29th December 2011, 11:07pm EricBarbour
I would say something about this on Commons, but ... Thu 29th December 2011, 11:40pm lilburne
I would say something about this on Commons, but... Fri 30th December 2011, 12:00am melloden
[b]I DO care about his attempt to cover up his pa... Fri 30th December 2011, 5:49am  dogbiscuit
[b]I DO care about his attempt to cover up his p... Fri 30th December 2011, 8:40am   EricBarbour
The sequence goes something like:
Wikipedia domin... Fri 30th December 2011, 10:09am    melloden
The sequence goes something like:
Wikipedia domi... Fri 30th December 2011, 3:54pm     Peter Damian
Reforming Wikipedia is like reforming the conserv... Fri 30th December 2011, 3:55pm      melloden
Reforming Wikipedia is like reforming the conser... Fri 30th December 2011, 4:05pm       Peter Damian
Some places will never be respectable or reliable... Fri 30th December 2011, 4:57pm Peter Damian I've resurrected a slightly older thread here ... Thu 29th December 2011, 11:51pm EricBarbour Perhaps this is a good time and place to point out... Fri 30th December 2011, 12:51am EricBarbour And now....for some more Fae dirt, straight (ha ha... Fri 30th December 2011, 2:45am Ottava Eric, since you seem good at the Wiki Researching ... Fri 30th December 2011, 3:16am Kelly Martin Ah, too bad there won't be an article. Looks ... Fri 30th December 2011, 3:27am thekohser
Ah, too bad there won't be an article. Looks... Fri 30th December 2011, 5:09am  Cla68
Ah, too bad there won't be an article. Look... Fri 30th December 2011, 5:26am lonza leggiera Application withdrawn in response to a "threa... Fri 30th December 2011, 1:16pm carbuncle
Application withdrawn in response to a "thre... Fri 30th December 2011, 2:49pm thekohser
[url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Ad... Fri 30th December 2011, 3:28pm  melloden
If he would only go on record as saying he is not... Fri 30th December 2011, 3:50pm carbuncle Since so many comments seem to be [redacted] on Co... Fri 30th December 2011, 4:04pm Michaeldsuarez
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sp... Fri 30th December 2011, 4:57pm Michaeldsuarez
[quote name='tarantino' post='292012' date='Thu 2... Fri 30th December 2011, 5:18pm mbz1
He also [url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/ind... Fri 30th December 2011, 7:05pm EricBarbour And now, Rd232 has blanked the request page......w... Fri 30th December 2011, 9:16pm mbz1 Here's one more image of Ashley . The author... Sat 31st December 2011, 7:02pm Vigilant
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