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post Tue 27th December 2011, 10:04pm
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I guess Ashley wants to delete the rest of his embarrassing uploads without the fuss of having to ask an admin...
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I would like to put myself forward for admin tools. Over the last year I have committed to Commons projects, mostly in my role as a volunteer leading the GLAM UK programme, my work as an OTRS volunteer (for which having tools would mean a wider scope of the types of ticket I would pick up) and also my work as a trusted user (using my own scraping tool to help check and empty the Flickr backlog queue of dubious uploads every now and then). I run Faebot, though I recently paused in using my iMacro scripts as I would like to move to more standard batch upload tools for larger upload projects. In 2012 I will be part of a number of Commons projects and partnerships, including my continuing involvement in the future batch upload tool and some very high quality uploads with our UK GLAM partners; though it would always be useful to have a GLAM-knowledgeable admin available to help out, more important will be my experience of helping with all types of admin tasks on Commons to inform these projects as well as continuing the support I already give to the institutions on how to encourage Wikimedians to join in with making these projects a success, as well as promoting the use of simple policies for copyright and attribution. Fæ (talk) 18:45, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
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post Thu 29th December 2011, 2:26pm
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As I mentioned earlier I’m planning on doing a piece on Wikimedia governance and admin practices, probably using your rise to the positions of administrator on the English language Wikipedia and Board Member of Wikimedia UK as a case study. My name is Dan Murphy. Though I’m a reporter/editor at the Christian Science Monitor, I won’t be doing this story for them (for 3 reasons: I’ll be writing this from a first person perspective, something the CSM rarely does; it’s outside my remit; and some of the material I’ll need to cover will be too explicit for us).

I’ve also emailed this note to you with my personal email and phone number included. I append it here in the interest of full transparency, which I hope you’ll appreciate. Here are my questions:
1. Some of your statements on Wikimedia projects have confused me. You sometimes imply that there’s doubt that User:Teahot and User:Ash were not in fact, you. Could you address this directly? Did you or did you not control those two accounts? From my perspective and investigation it sure seems that you did.
2. The pictures of a half-naked man in bondage positions that were uploaded to commons by the User:Teahot account look a lot like you. Were you the model? If not, how did you come to own that photograph? (I suppose if you insist that you didn’t control the Ash/Teahot accounts, you wouldn’t be in a position to know).
3. Did you privately request the deletion of those pictures? If so, why? If you didn’t, what do you know about the decision to delete the images– at who’s request, and so on?
4. You’ve stated on multiple occasions that either “stalking” and/or “harassment” led to your “vanishing” (in the Wikipedia sense) as User:Ash. As someone involved in examining your editing at the RFC/U at the time you disappeared, I found this to be an implied attack on me and others and I found it offensive. In my mind, I was simply pulling on threads that indicated you had fabricated sourcing and stood in the way of article improvement. Why did you go? If you really feared for your safety (and that of your family if memory serves) why did you return under a new identity so quickly, that you then went on to publicly and clearly connect to your real name?
5. Do you think uploaders of pictures to commons should retain the right to withdraw the permissions they’ve given if they have second thoughts? This seems to have been done as a favor to you, (the bondage pictures) but commons practice (and some deletion discussions you’ve been involved in there recently) indicates this is generally frowned upon. This certainly looks like the case of a double standard, of different rules for the inner circle. Do I have this wrong? If so, can you explain how?
6. I have no particular concern or interest in your sexual habits. But examination of your editing requires that sexual content be dealt with – since that was a big portion of your work on Wikipedia as Ash and continues to be a major interest at commons as Fae. The biggest concern at the RFC/U for “Ash” was the misuse of sources, including claims they contained information they did not, in fact, contain. Do you dispute this was accurate? If not, did you disclose to Wikimedia UK your past account and the concerns of others before you were voted in?
7. I fully intend (after reviewing the old RFC/U and the links from that time) to write about the concerns about your editing then. In addition to what looked like deliberate misuse of sources, you also insisted on using industry PR (the “grabby” awards and so on) as reliable sources. The problem with those sources was not that they’re porn connected, but that they were marketing tools in which “facts” (physical measurements, personal preferences, real names, real ages etc…) are typically fabricated. Do you still think those are good sources for writing accurate and neutral encyclopedia articles about living people?
8. What was the process to become a Wikimedia UK board member? I.e. who voted, how were you nominated, stuff like that.
9. As Ash you created (and strenuously argued for the retention of an article called) “List of Gay Bathhouse Regulars.” Articles like this alarm me not just as a BLP issue (though false inclusion of a person in this article by a malicious IP was a near certainty at some point and that's alarming enough). They are at best a trivial cross categorization (the mundane example would be “People who like to go to the pub”) and at worst something that could cause real world harm and distress to someone who may have indeed frequented gay bathhouses, but would prefer some privacy in this manner (I have similar concerns about the marginal porn bios you spent so much time editing – many people who move on from porn don’t want to be remembered that way. Unless they’re folks of great fame, with extent sources to write serious biographies on, they don't need to be so immortalized). Why did you think this was an “encyclopedic” topic? Have your views changed on this? If so, how and why?
10. I’m still investigating this, but it appears that you’ve been involved in reaching out as a Wikimedia UK board member to MPs and other folks in the UK about Wikipedia’s safeguards against defamation, against inappropriate pornography (i.e. of kids), against general error. If I’m correct in this assumption, can you either explain to me what you’ve been telling them about editorial controls or direct me to presentation materials you’ve used?

Whew! That’s a lot for a start. It will probably be some weeks before I’m ready to publish anything and will certainly ping you when it’s getting close. Feel free to call or email at any time.

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carbuncle   Ashley Van Haeften, Commons admin?   Tue 27th December 2011, 10:04pm
EricBarbour   It appears that he will get it, too. So far only O...   Tue 27th December 2011, 10:23pm
carbuncle   It appears that he will get it, too. So far only ...   Tue 27th December 2011, 11:30pm
carbuncle   And I have my answer already...   Tue 27th December 2011, 11:52pm
EricBarbour   :D (Where did he post that?)   Wed 28th December 2011, 12:09am
lilburne   He seems to be feltching here: http://commons.wiki...   Wed 28th December 2011, 12:26am
Eppur si muove   Muckbutt seems to be plastering the rfa with comme...   Wed 28th December 2011, 2:51am
Peter Damian   Bali ultimate blocked on commons, with all sorts o...   Wed 28th December 2011, 8:08am
EricBarbour   Why is it that the people who scream 'Wikiped...   Wed 28th December 2011, 8:20am
tarantino   [quote name='Peter Damian' post='291850' date='We...   Wed 28th December 2011, 3:26pm
lilburne   It looks like there will soon be more main strea...   Wed 28th December 2011, 4:14pm
SB_Johnny   [quote name='Peter Damian' post='291850' date='W...   Wed 28th December 2011, 5:37pm
EricBarbour   [url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?tit...   Wed 28th December 2011, 6:10pm
Michaeldsuarez   He seems to be feltching here: [url=http://common...   Wed 28th December 2011, 8:33pm
Michaeldsuarez   http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t......   Wed 28th December 2011, 9:05pm
Kelly Martin   Can someone please point out the post on this thre...   Wed 28th December 2011, 9:34pm
Michaeldsuarez   [quote name='Michaeldsuarez' post='291873' date='...   Wed 28th December 2011, 10:01pm
lilburne   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='291875' date='We...   Wed 28th December 2011, 10:04pm
Cla68   Can someone please point out the post on this thr...   Thu 29th December 2011, 1:59am
Peter Damian   Apart from the fact that "Fred the Oyster...   Wed 28th December 2011, 10:13pm
SB_Johnny   I actually bothered to oppose. I feel bad for the ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 12:22am
RMHED   I feel bad for the 'crats... I've been t...   Thu 29th December 2011, 12:54am
SB_Johnny   I feel bad for the 'crats... I've been ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 3:15am
Peter Damian   I actually bothered to oppose. I feel bad for the...   Thu 29th December 2011, 7:26am
lilburne   [quote name='SB_Johnny' post='291893' date='Thu 2...   Thu 29th December 2011, 9:09am
EricBarbour   :grin: Now, which of you reprobates posted that ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 2:18am
Eppur si muove   :grin: Now, which of you reprobates posted that...   Thu 29th December 2011, 2:31am
mbz1   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='291904' date='Thu...   Thu 29th December 2011, 2:58am
Eppur si muove   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contri...   Thu 29th December 2011, 3:17am
mbz1   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...   Thu 29th December 2011, 3:51am
Eppur si muove   [quote name='Eppur si muove' post='291916' date='...   Thu 29th December 2011, 10:36am
Detective   As ever, Herbythyme can eventually be persuaded to...   Thu 29th December 2011, 11:22am
lilburne   As ever, Herbythyme can eventually be persuaded t...   Thu 29th December 2011, 11:34am
Detective   He still has a + vote registered against his name...   Thu 29th December 2011, 10:23pm
Michaeldsuarez   http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t......   Thu 29th December 2011, 2:08pm
carbuncle   Some material that isn't available on Fæ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 2:26pm
SB_Johnny   Some material that isn't available on Fæ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 3:40pm
SB_Johnny   Some material that isn't available on Fæ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 4:35pm
thekohser   What is Dan Murphy's e-mail address?   Thu 29th December 2011, 3:51pm
lilburne   What is Dan Murphy's e-mail address? He has...   Thu 29th December 2011, 3:57pm
thekohser   What is Dan Murphy's e-mail address? He ha...   Thu 29th December 2011, 10:31pm
SB_Johnny   What is Dan Murphy's e-mail address? Uh, LMG...   Thu 29th December 2011, 4:23pm
Kelly Martin   It seems fairly likely that Van Haeften will be re...   Thu 29th December 2011, 4:37pm
mbz1   It seems fairly likely that Van Haeften will be r...   Thu 29th December 2011, 4:42pm
melloden   It seems fairly likely that Van Haeften will be ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 4:44pm
Ottava   [quote name='mbz1' post='291962' date='Thu 29th D...   Thu 29th December 2011, 4:48pm
Kelly Martin   It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will be...   Thu 29th December 2011, 5:47pm
mbz1   It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will b...   Thu 29th December 2011, 6:20pm
Kelly Martin   It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 6:51pm
mbz1   It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will b...   Thu 29th December 2011, 11:15pm
Vigilant   It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 11:21pm
Peter Damian   But where do you see embarrassment for Jimbo ? OK...   Thu 29th December 2011, 11:38pm
Cunningly Linguistic   It's very embarrassing to have a picture of y...   Fri 30th December 2011, 12:06am
mbz1   [quote name='mbz1' post='291991' date='Thu 29th D...   Fri 30th December 2011, 12:22am
Kelly Martin   But where do you see embarrassment for Jimbo ? OK,...   Fri 30th December 2011, 1:26am
mbz1   [quote name='mbz1' post='291991' date='Thu 29th D...   Fri 30th December 2011, 2:27am
tarantino   If and when Mr. Murphy's article, reportedly ...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:16am
melloden   It is a virtual certainty that Van Haeften will ...   Fri 30th December 2011, 5:43am
thekohser   "very good article" my ass. Gregory rar...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:18pm
melloden   [quote name='melloden' post='292017' date='Fri 30...   Fri 30th December 2011, 4:00pm
Fusion   Also, I feel obligated to point out that 58,000 p...   Sat 31st December 2011, 12:04pm
thekohser   It is not the same. Melloden said that one artic...   Sat 31st December 2011, 3:29pm
melloden   It is not the same. Melloden said that one arti...   Sat 31st December 2011, 4:10pm
thekohser   I'm rather impressed. Well then, I'm flo...   Sat 31st December 2011, 7:08pm
Fusion   Anyway, in less than 18 months of writing for Exa...   Fri 30th December 2011, 10:12pm
thekohser   Anyway, in less than 18 months of writing for Ex...   Sat 31st December 2011, 8:04am
Peter Damian   And look what happens next (as was certainly bound...   Thu 29th December 2011, 6:24pm
Michaeldsuarez   And look what happens next (as was certainly boun...   Thu 29th December 2011, 6:37pm
SB_Johnny   And look what happens next (as was certainly boun...   Thu 29th December 2011, 7:17pm
lilburne   [quote name='Peter Damian' post='291970' date='Th...   Thu 29th December 2011, 8:11pm
Ottava   And look what happens next (as was certainly boun...   Thu 29th December 2011, 7:58pm
Peter Damian   There are many loyal Wikipedians of the North Kore...   Thu 29th December 2011, 11:03pm
Ottava   My recollection is that our John Vandenberg gave ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 11:07pm
EricBarbour   I would say something about this on Commons, but ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 11:40pm
lilburne   I would say something about this on Commons, but...   Fri 30th December 2011, 12:00am
melloden   [b]I DO care about his attempt to cover up his pa...   Fri 30th December 2011, 5:49am
dogbiscuit   [b]I DO care about his attempt to cover up his p...   Fri 30th December 2011, 8:40am
EricBarbour   The sequence goes something like: Wikipedia domin...   Fri 30th December 2011, 10:09am
melloden   The sequence goes something like: Wikipedia domi...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:54pm
Peter Damian   Reforming Wikipedia is like reforming the conserv...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:55pm
melloden   Reforming Wikipedia is like reforming the conser...   Fri 30th December 2011, 4:05pm
Peter Damian   Some places will never be respectable or reliable...   Fri 30th December 2011, 4:57pm
Peter Damian   I've resurrected a slightly older thread here ...   Thu 29th December 2011, 11:51pm
EricBarbour   Perhaps this is a good time and place to point out...   Fri 30th December 2011, 12:51am
EricBarbour   And now....for some more Fae dirt, straight (ha ha...   Fri 30th December 2011, 2:45am
Ottava   Eric, since you seem good at the Wiki Researching ...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:16am
Kelly Martin   Ah, too bad there won't be an article. Looks ...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:27am
thekohser   Ah, too bad there won't be an article. Looks...   Fri 30th December 2011, 5:09am
Cla68   Ah, too bad there won't be an article. Look...   Fri 30th December 2011, 5:26am
lonza leggiera   Application withdrawn in response to a "threa...   Fri 30th December 2011, 1:16pm
carbuncle   Application withdrawn in response to a "thre...   Fri 30th December 2011, 2:49pm
thekohser   [url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Ad...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:28pm
melloden   If he would only go on record as saying he is not...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:50pm
carbuncle   Since so many comments seem to be [redacted] on Co...   Fri 30th December 2011, 4:04pm
Michaeldsuarez   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sp...   Fri 30th December 2011, 4:57pm
Michaeldsuarez   [quote name='tarantino' post='292012' date='Thu 2...   Fri 30th December 2011, 5:18pm
mbz1   He also [url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/ind...   Fri 30th December 2011, 7:05pm
EricBarbour   And now, Rd232 has blanked the request page......w...   Fri 30th December 2011, 9:16pm
mbz1   Here's one more image of Ashley . The author...   Sat 31st December 2011, 7:02pm
Vigilant   [url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aussi...   Sat 31st December 2011, 7:11pm
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