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> Jimbo's beef with paid editing, Why does he have it?
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post Wed 28th December 2011, 4:13pm
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Sort of a tangential topic from the timidguy case, which seems to be an issue of paid editing and Jimbo's ever lasting hate of it. I know we had the Kohs issue in the past but what's his issue with paid editing?
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post Wed 4th January 2012, 8:36am
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The answer to the "Why not have paid editors?" question, of course, is that paid editors skew content. They pump up their clients and would quickly, it is not difficult to imagine, slag off on their competitors. I think this is a very logical, sensible reason to keep paid flacks out...

Can paid editors produce good content? Sure. Just like paid lobbyists can produce good legislation...


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post Wed 4th January 2012, 12:54pm
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QUOTE(timbo @ Wed 4th January 2012, 3:36am) *

They pump up their clients and would quickly, it is not difficult to imagine, slag off on their competitors. I think this is a very logical, sensible reason to keep paid flacks out...

Whew... good thing the unpaid religious, political, and ideological zealots who have taken over Wikipedia would never do that!
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post Wed 4th January 2012, 1:52pm
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Paid editing is against all of the principles that wikipedia should be based on. It circumvents the meaning of WP:CONSENSUS, WP:COI, WP:NOTABILITY off the bat.

It is a non-argument to compare with POV pushers and other agenda driven editors - because they are not a priori identifiable as such. It is like asking "should we allow tedentious editing?" the answer has to be no.

Other than that I find it ethically and morally questionable. And it shows what I see as a basic failure to understand what it is that could be good about wikipedia.
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post Wed 4th January 2012, 5:10pm
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Paid editing is against all of the principles that wikipedia should be based on. It circumvents the meaning of WP:CONSENSUS, WP:COI, WP:NOTABILITY off the bat.

And then you would be wrong, since April 17, 2006.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 4th January 2012, 5:10pm) *

QUOTE(Maunus @ Wed 4th January 2012, 8:52am) *

Paid editing is against all of the principles that wikipedia should be based on. It circumvents the meaning of WP:CONSENSUS, WP:COI, WP:NOTABILITY off the bat.

And then you would be wrong, since April 17, 2006.


You might note my use of the modal "should" instead of "is" - by which I meant to imply that the following is a value judgment based on my opinion. The existence of the reward board doesn't change that.

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that one guy   Jimbo's beef with paid editing   Wed 28th December 2011, 4:13pm
Kelly Martin   Sort of a tangential topic from the timidguy case...   Wed 28th December 2011, 6:32pm
Eppur si muove   Sort of a tangential topic from the timidguy cas...   Wed 28th December 2011, 8:10pm
timbo   The answer to the "Why not have paid editors?...   Wed 4th January 2012, 8:36am
dogbiscuit   Paid editing is against all of the principles tha...   Wed 4th January 2012, 3:44pm
Maunus   Paid editing is against all of the principles th...   Wed 4th January 2012, 11:51pm
thekohser   ...the fact that I find (specifically corporate i...   Thu 5th January 2012, 12:35pm
Maunus   It's amusing that of all the unethical things...   Thu 5th January 2012, 2:32pm
thekohser   It's amusing that of all the unethical thing...   Thu 5th January 2012, 3:39pm
Peter Damian   It is a non-argument to compare with POV pushers ...   Wed 4th January 2012, 6:53pm
gomi   It is like asking "should we allow tedentious...   Wed 4th January 2012, 6:58pm
Peter Damian   In which Jimbo and others decide that it's OK ...   Thu 5th January 2012, 7:57pm
thekohser   In which Jimbo and others decide that it's OK...   Fri 6th January 2012, 4:14am
thekohser   Oh, wow... this is getting bigger, much bigger, no...   Fri 6th January 2012, 4:22am
EricBarbour   Stunning. Jimbo Is The Holy One. Even when he says...   Fri 6th January 2012, 6:46am


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