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> Ashley Van Haeften caught copying a map and lying about it, (and while he's up for admin on Commons no less)
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post Fri 30th December 2011, 6:01am
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At the Commons deletion discussion for a map created and uploaded by Wikimedia UK trustee Ashley Van Haeften, the following exchange took place:
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For maps, more is required than a declaration of "own work". Where do the details in the coastline come from? Pieter Kuiper (talk) 22:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I created this map in Inkscape. The coastline was roughly based on a Google satellite photo and in practice is points from the coastline connected by thick lines rather than a detailed tracing. --Fæ (talk) 22:29, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
An anonymous IP editor has pointed out that the map created by Van Haeften bears more than a passing resemblance to another map available online.

Here's the Van Haeften map in question:
(IMG:http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8476/20120104062739voidokili.png)

Just for fun, I took a screenshot of the Google satellite map of the area:
(IMG:http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7083/googlenooverlay.jpg)

I overlaid it with Fæ's image at 50% visibility, using the road for positioning and scale:
(IMG:http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8654/google50percentoverlay.jpg)

Notice how different the shape of the lagoon is? Now look at the tourist map with Fæ's image overlaid at 50% visibility:
(IMG:http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4885/overlayat50percent.jpg)

Interestingly, no scaling was required, it fit perfectly at the sizes downloaded. See how similar the placement of the text is? See how the lagoon is the same shape on both maps, unlike the shape it is on Google?

[edited to show the actual image, rather than the replacement now on commons - SBJ]

This post has been edited by SB_Johnny: Tue 10th January 2012, 10:29am
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carbuncle   Ashley Van Haeften caught copying a map and lying about it   Fri 30th December 2011, 6:01am
mbz1   At the Commons deletion discussion for a map crea...   Fri 30th December 2011, 6:06am
Fusion   But why would he do it? :confused: Because he th...   Fri 30th December 2011, 1:22pm
carbuncle   But why would he do it? :confused: Because he t...   Fri 30th December 2011, 2:57pm
thekohser   We seem to have a case of one of those rare Wikipe...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:41pm
Cla68   We seem to have a case of one of those rare Wikip...   Fri 30th December 2011, 3:46pm
Kelly Martin   [quote name='thekohser' post='292043' date='Fri 3...   Fri 30th December 2011, 5:03pm
Peter Damian   One of the things I've noticed about liars is...   Fri 30th December 2011, 5:06pm
dogbiscuit   I've also been intrigued by that. I've...   Fri 30th December 2011, 6:13pm
Peter Damian   [quote name='Peter Damian' post='292059' date='Fr...   Fri 30th December 2011, 6:24pm
radek   I've also been intrigued by that. I'v...   Fri 30th December 2011, 6:41pm
Malleus   I've also been intrigued by that. I'v...   Fri 30th December 2011, 10:01pm
lilburne   I suspect it's because they are incapable of ...   Fri 30th December 2011, 6:45pm
Fusion   The boy would be about 35 now. So probably too o...   Fri 30th December 2011, 9:43pm
lilburne   The boy would be about 35 now. So probably too ...   Fri 30th December 2011, 10:06pm
EricBarbour   No one noticed the obvious, that map is of a ...   Fri 30th December 2011, 10:16pm
carbuncle   No one noticed the obvious, that map is of a [url...   Fri 30th December 2011, 10:46pm
Kelly Martin   No one noticed the obvious, that map is of a ...   Fri 30th December 2011, 10:59pm
dogbiscuit   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='292093' date='Fri...   Fri 30th December 2011, 11:27pm
EricBarbour   So is it WR which has the problem - where I would...   Sat 31st December 2011, 12:04am
RMHED   .You know, the ones that everyone knows are gay, ...   Sat 31st December 2011, 12:04am
Peter Damian   Wikipedia policy makes it an offense to reveal t...   Sat 31st December 2011, 9:47am
pietkuip   Fæ now denies lying - but admits not telling the ...   Sat 31st December 2011, 9:43pm
carbuncle   Since Van Haeften has uploaded a new image over th...   Thu 5th January 2012, 3:37pm
Cunningly Linguistic   Since Van Haeften has uploaded a new image over t...   Thu 5th January 2012, 5:59pm
dogbiscuit   I like the idea that Fae thinks that creating an i...   Wed 11th January 2012, 1:27am


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