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Peter Damian
post Sun 1st January 2012, 5:54pm
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Let's take a look at this new arbitrator. I now know his real name and identity, which are not particularly relevant here.

What is relevant is his age - born November 1990, which means he was 15 when he first joined Wikipedia, and 17 when he became an administrator at his second attempt. An extraordinarily rapid rise to power, now a member of the Arbitration committee having just turned 21.

Joining in early 2006, he showed a desire to become an administrator immediately, saying to Flo Knight "I was brought up in a rough part of Glasgow, Scotland I feel my knowledge of the Scottish delinquent personality would be of use as a 'Hall Monitor' http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&oldid=43600120, and then at editor review - "I think I may want Adminship, but I am worried I have been with Wikipedia for too short a time despite the fact that Adminship is the one thing I want most on Wikipedia! Please leave comments or advice about how I am doing, and whether or not I should go for Adminship. Also, if I did go for it would you honestly vote for me or not??? Thank you very much." http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&oldid=69211753

Shows commendable dedication to the cause by his 'vandal fighting'. "Your new Wikipediaholic Score First of all, how did your score climb SO QUICKLY? How is it even possible to score that high if you're not Jimbo Wales? By the way, you made some errors in the ranking, like labelling 2nd as 2st, 3rd as 3nd, and 4th as 4rd. I have fixed them. AstroHurricane001 22:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)"

Also shows commendable ambition in his attempts to climb the ranks.

December 27, 2006: adds himself http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&oldid=95877655 to the standby list for CheckUser clerks. Not yet granted.
December 29, 2006: requests http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Med...ons/Anthony_cfc to join the mediation committee. Denied.
December 31, 2006: requests http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...93&oldid=503873 OTRS access. Not granted.
January 9, 2007: requests http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...ev&oldid=509373 CheckUser access. Denied.
January 16, 2007: attempts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...uest_for_Access to gain access to the Bot Approvals Group. Denied.

In February, his first application for RfA was turned down http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...hip/Anthony_cfc . The comments are highly intersesting. "An interesting note is that every one of the powers he's applied to is one that Essjay holds; this seems almost like a form of wiki-stalking. In short, I think Anthony cfc just wants any power he can possibly get, and that's never a good trait in administrators. I do not trust him to handle the tools properly. Ral315 (talk) 02:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)"

Aso, in a bizarre request on another wiki in May 2007 http://wiki.editthis.info/Wiki/Special:Contributions/Shmm, he simultaneously joins and asks for administrator rights. He is turned down flat, although objects that "The fact I'm a Bureaucrat on a Wikimedia Foundation wiki, as well as the Developer for a private Wiki, surely seals the deal? --Shmm 17:26, 1 May 2007 (EDT)", adding "I have a sincere desire to protect this Wiki, as I have being protecting others of the Wikimedia Foundation --Shmm 15:17, 2 May 2007 (EDT)"

Is that true? Since that was before his second successful RfA, on what WMF wiki did he have Bureaucrat rights, in May 2007??

His user page talks about an interest in and knowledge of classical studies, but his main work on Wikipedia seems to have been 'gnoming'. His work on Good Articles is mostly minor changes to grammar (sometimes making it worse), or linking or applying templates or other inconsequential stuff. (I haven't checked that carefully, however, so take that with a grain of salt for now).

Is this the kind of arbitrator Wikipedia needs?

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post Tue 19th June 2012, 7:58pm
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I can add a little more to this now.

First of all, it might be of interest to note that one of AGK's comments noted in Peter Damian's opening contribution in this thread, the one about his being brought up in a tough district of Glasgow and his odd remark that knowledge of the 'delinquent personality' might come in useful, has been revision deleted from its history. What the significance of that might be I know not, but I suspect it is because he is caught out in a fantasy. There are indeed rather a lot of these revision deletions in Anthony's contribution history.

This is his first unsuccessful RfA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...hip/Anthony_cfc which was refused, and this is his second successful http://en.wikipedia.g-webs.com/wiki/Wikipe...r_adminship/AGK.

The first carries a prominent pull-quote reservation from his mentor Essjay (indicative of the influence he waged at the time that it survived), and in addition there are significant comments referencing AGK's self-confessed bi-polar condition. The second refers not at all to his bi-polar condition but does record how proud he is of Cambuslang railway station where he drafted in the combined resources of no less than four editors ... well you have to smile.gif.

The bi-polar stuff is interesting because AGK permanently blocked a user RobvanderWaal (I must declare an interest, Rob is 'family') who had been waging a personal crusade against the hijacking by Major depressive disorder of Vincent van Gogh's (also 'family' I should declare, strange but true if only rather distantly) painting At Eternity's Gate as an icon of mental distress. In fact the painting, as its article (contributed mostly by Rob who briefly became a wikiaddict before coming to his senses), not to mention its title, makes clear, is an image of sanctity. When Rob came to query it on Major depressive disorder (the intellectual property is seems of that well known slimebag Casliber, who has also made a typically stupid and immature remark in this thread I notice) he was hounded by a user Basalisk, apparently a Swansea schoolboy passing himself off a physician. When Rob exposed this editor's pretensions (amongst other things Basalisk announced his putative success in his final medical examinations with the triumphant salutation "I'm a doctor now, bitches"), Rob was blocked by AGK for being a sock of Rinpoche (erm ... also 'family', oh well that's family for you i.e you tend to be related to other people because of it and for no other good reason, which is really so totally unfair and arbitrary).

Quite apart from any issues to do with van Gogh's legacy, the issue is important from a medical point of view; in the first place because iconising van Gogh's painting in this way romanticizes suicide, but far worse because it also reinforces the well known fallacy that people who suffer clinical depression are necessarily in despair (a position also maintained by the good doctor Basalisk incidentally). This is simply not so, and it's especially not so in the case of teenagers (the Bridgend suicide incidents are a tragic example of that). Rather it is a classic case of cause and effect. Suffering from depression makes it more difficult to deal with feelings of despair, but feelings of despair are not necessarily symptomatic of depression and certainly not a necessary adjuvant with the condition; in fact the World Health Organisation does not list feeling of despair as one of the symptoms of clinical depression.

That fucking little ozzy cunt Casliber knows this perfectly well, or certainly ought to, because he's a psychiatrist, but then of course he's just basically yet another wikiaddict with multiple issues about matters of fact and whether they really in fact matter when balanced against the common good of the community (i.e. pricks like Basalisk).

Just to mention. I suggest AGK's block of RobvanderWaal was not disinterested.

And would you by any chance be from Cambuslang then, brother Anthony? The whole family's in on this now smile.gif ...

(Added): OMG, some of us actually are from Cambuslang! Now there's a laugh ... laugh.gif

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Peter Damian   Who is AGK?   Sun 1st January 2012, 5:54pm
thekohser   Is this the kind of arbitrator Wikipedia needs? ...   Sun 1st January 2012, 6:31pm
melloden   I think most kids on Wikipedia are like that. Some...   Sun 1st January 2012, 6:33pm
Kelly Martin   I think it's interesting he was elected to the...   Sun 1st January 2012, 7:02pm
that one guy   [quote name='melloden' post='292189' date='Sun 1s...   Sun 1st January 2012, 7:26pm
melloden   [quote name='melloden' post='292189' date='Sun 1s...   Sun 1st January 2012, 8:28pm
carbuncle   Posted without further comment. From AGK's re...   Sun 1st January 2012, 9:08pm
Peter Damian   Seemed to have had a love affair with Essjay.   Sun 1st January 2012, 10:33pm
Eppur si muove   Seemed to have had a love affair with Essjay. ...   Sun 1st January 2012, 10:40pm
Kelly Martin   How do we know that AGK isn't, in fact, Essjay...   Sun 1st January 2012, 10:45pm
TungstenCarbide   How do we know that AGK isn't, in fact, Essja...   Sun 1st January 2012, 10:58pm
EricBarbour   How do we know that AGK isn't, in fact, Essja...   Sun 1st January 2012, 11:34pm
A Horse With No Name   He's also spent a lot of time sucking up to Du...   Mon 2nd January 2012, 3:24am
EricBarbour   Alison does impressions? :P I can do a fairly ...   Mon 2nd January 2012, 4:49am
melloden   A good example of a pure suck-up. Wikipedia DOES ...   Mon 2nd January 2012, 5:44am
Cla68   A good example of a pure suck-up. Wikipedia DOES...   Mon 2nd January 2012, 12:14pm
Peter Damian   I don't understand how anyone can find WP par...   Mon 2nd January 2012, 12:21pm
melloden   [quote name='melloden' post='292244' date='Mon 2n...   Mon 2nd January 2012, 4:38pm
Fusion   I don't understand how anyone can find WP par...   Mon 2nd January 2012, 9:39pm
Casliber   ......Or they just like correcting spelling error...   Tue 3rd January 2012, 7:47am
Ottava   ......Or they just like correcting spelling erro...   Wed 4th January 2012, 4:37am
FightingMac   [quote name='Fusion' post='292276' date='Tue 3rd ...   Fri 22nd June 2012, 9:58pm
Mortimer   There is a word [i]paedocracy in the OED incident...   Sat 30th June 2012, 1:48pm
FightingMac   [quote name='FightingMac' post='305644' date='Fri...   Sat 30th June 2012, 2:44pm
Peter Damian   RE: Who is AGK?   Tue 3rd January 2012, 11:48am
lilburne   Sounds like someone that comes around with the t...   Tue 3rd January 2012, 3:18pm
EricBarbour   Sounds like someone that comes around with the te...   Tue 3rd January 2012, 9:08pm
radek   Ugh, aside from Geni and what's his face, AGK ...   Wed 4th January 2012, 4:28am
Michaeldsuarez   [b][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ar...   Wed 4th January 2012, 1:31pm
Kelly Martin   Also, isn't it obvious that users interested i...   Wed 4th January 2012, 2:09pm
gomi   It has long been Wikipedia policy that articles sh...   Wed 4th January 2012, 7:28pm
melloden   Whatever happened to "everyone has a say...   Wed 4th January 2012, 5:40pm
Michaeldsuarez   http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid...   Sat 7th January 2012, 4:26pm
FightingMac   His user page talks about an interest in and kno...   Fri 15th June 2012, 9:59am
Detective   Can anyone point me to any academic research on u...   Fri 15th June 2012, 11:34am
FightingMac   ... Basically, these are people who don't hav...   Fri 15th June 2012, 3:46pm
Shalom   AGK's old username is Anthony cfc. Who knows w...   Sun 17th June 2012, 11:32pm
FightingMac   AGK's old username is Anthony cfc. Who knows ...   Mon 18th June 2012, 3:23am
FightingMac   I can add a little more to this now. ... There a...   Thu 21st June 2012, 2:44am
FightingMac   (Added) A sock of Astrotrain possibly? Astrotrain...   Thu 21st June 2012, 7:01pm
FightingMac   ... To clarify, I'm suggesting that AGK was ...   Mon 25th June 2012, 7:16am
mbz1   "My username is derived from the initials ...   Tue 26th June 2012, 4:40pm
Eppur si muove   "I am training for my P.P.L. (Private Pilot...   Tue 26th June 2012, 10:28pm
mbz1   [quote name='FightingMac' post='305634' date='Thu...   Wed 27th June 2012, 12:55am
FightingMac   ... If AKG was 16 years old, when he wrote this,...   Wed 27th June 2012, 2:40am
mbz1   [quote name='mbz1' post='305784' date='Wed 27th J...   Wed 27th June 2012, 4:20am
FightingMac   What Joe Decker? Any diffs? I mentioned this i...   Wed 27th June 2012, 5:21am
mbz1   [quote name='mbz1' post='305790' date='Wed 27th J...   Thu 28th June 2012, 3:15am
FightingMac   ... AGK is probably academically gifted too beca...   Thu 28th June 2012, 6:42am
Fusion   Looking at his time stamps there seems to be no s...   Thu 28th June 2012, 11:32am
FightingMac   Looking at his time stamps there seems to be no ...   Thu 28th June 2012, 1:07pm
mbz1   ... AGK is probably academically gifted too bec...   Thu 28th June 2012, 3:57pm
FightingMac   And there are some admins that become admins t...   Fri 29th June 2012, 6:14am
Tarc   Long time no see, Mila, I thought you had quit all...   Tue 26th June 2012, 4:44pm
mbz1   Long time no see, Mila, I thought you had quit al...   Tue 26th June 2012, 5:03pm
Tarc   I have a very good reasons to believe that behind...   Tue 26th June 2012, 6:05pm
mbz1   I have a very good reasons to believe that behin...   Tue 26th June 2012, 7:29pm
Tarc   Gwen gale has not blocked anybody for more than a ...   Tue 26th June 2012, 8:24pm
mbz1   Gwen gale has not blocked anybody for more than a...   Wed 27th June 2012, 12:39am
Tarc   I am trilled that we were able to agree on this. I...   Wed 27th June 2012, 4:44pm
Somey   Nothing you have said to them matters. You are de...   Wed 27th June 2012, 8:13pm
Eppur si muove   I am trilled that we were able to agree on this. ...   Wed 27th June 2012, 11:39pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='305798' date='Wed 27th J...   Sun 1st July 2012, 2:36am
Web Fred   [quote name='Tarc' post='305798' date='Wed 27th ...   Sun 1st July 2012, 9:22am
FightingMac   Well the good news here is that I've finally s...   Sun 1st July 2012, 9:59am
FightingMac   Well the good news here is that I've finally ...   Sun 1st July 2012, 6:46pm
Tarc   http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t......   Mon 2nd July 2012, 7:24pm
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mbz1   When it rains, it pours;shit-canned from meta aga...   Tue 3rd July 2012, 7:05pm
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Web Fred   [quote name='mbz1' post='305876' date='Tue 3rd Ju...   Wed 4th July 2012, 5:01pm
FightingMac   You fucked-in-the-head cunt, NOTHING you did has...   Thu 5th July 2012, 7:21am
mbz1   [quote name='Tarc' post='305881' date='Wed 4th Ju...   Mon 9th July 2012, 2:03am
FightingMac   ... So, tarc, Gwen Gale is a good admin now, and ...   Mon 9th July 2012, 9:06am
mbz1   Could you have a go at making AGK a good admini...   Mon 9th July 2012, 5:21pm
Tarc   So, tarc, Gwen Gale is a good admin now, and it wa...   Mon 9th July 2012, 9:26pm
mbz1   [quote name='mbz1' post='305908' date='Sun 8th Ju...   Tue 10th July 2012, 4:13pm
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