CLEANSTART RfA's Options

[Michaeldsuarez]

I don't have anything against Sven Manguard, but I noticed that he or she recently attempted to do what Fae did (i.e. using WP:CLEANSTART in order to not disclose a previous account):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...p/Sven_Manguard

As with Fae, Sven had an ArbCom member (Xeno) backing him or her:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=469760712

I can confirm that [[User:Sven Manguard]] contacted the Arbitration Committee in 2010 to disclose his former username and advise of this [[Wikipedia:Clean start|clean start]]. –[[user:xeno|<font face="verdana" color="black">'''xeno'''</font>]][[user talk:xeno|<font color="black">^talk</font>]] 19:07, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=469764747

I can confirm that [[User:Sven Manguard]] contacted the Arbitration Committee in 2010 to disclose his former username and advise of this [[Wikipedia:Clean start|clean start]]. A record of this exists in our internal records, so any sitting arbitrator who cared to check could verify that the recommended disclosure has been made. –[[user:xeno|<font face="verdana" color="black">'''xeno'''</font>]][[user talk:xeno|<font color="black">^talk</font>]] 19:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=469765326

To the best of my knowledge, the candidate has appropriately complied with both the [[WP:SOCK]] and the related [[WP:CLEANSTART]] policies. –[[user:xeno|<font face="verdana" color="black">'''xeno'''</font>]][[user talk:xeno|<font color="black">^talk</font>]] 19:21, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=469768224

[[User:Sven Manguard]] contacted arbcom-l in 2010 and informed the entire committee of the clean start - a record of this disclosure exists in the committee's internal records for any sitting arbitrator to review. –[[user:xeno|<font face="verdana" color="black">'''xeno'''</font>]][[user talk:xeno|<font color="black">^talk</font>]] 19:27, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Also, this revision:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=469743173

What is the "recent case" that Sven is referring to? If there's a "recent case" that caused users to change their attitudes concerning CLEANSTART sysops, then perhaps someone should capitalize on that change in attitude and propose that WP:CLEANSTART shouldn't apply to those attempting to become sysops.

[Michaeldsuarez]

Also, this revision:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=469743173

What is the "recent case" that Sven is referring to? If there's a "recent case" that caused users to change their attitudes concerning CLEANSTART sysops, then perhaps someone should capitalize on that change in attitude and propose that WP:CLEANSTART shouldn't apply to those attempting to become sysops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=471150379:

No. Other than the names, which I won't share, there's very little I know, and even less I know with enough confidence to share. Additionally, I've created and try my best to follow a philosophy that when I say bad things about users, by name, in public, they either have to be public figures (mainly full time WMF staff), or I would have to feel that they've wronged me to a degree to which I'm willing to deal with the fallout from saying bad things about users, by name, in public. I'm sure that if you ask someone who opposed me on account of the incident, they'd know more. Please ask them instead, or drop it entirely. If you didn't know about it, (and keeping in mind Wikipedia's love for gossip and drama), how big a deal could it really have been?

Since the person Sven is referring to apparently isn't a public figure, I guess that he or her isn't talking about Fae. If anyone here at the WR knows more, can you please speak up?

[Ego Trippin' (Part Two)]

Since the person Sven is referring to apparently isn't a public figure, I guess that he or her isn't talking about Fae. If anyone here at the WR knows more, can you please speak up?

Perhaps Sven doesn't consider Fae a public figure, or perhaps he doesn't know the details of Fae's real-life identity. Either way, I find it hard to believe that this is about a different case, since the Commons dust-up over Fae occurred immediately before Sven's abortive RfA.

Sven behaves similarly when referencing the "Sophie" incident from last year, saying, in effect, "I have information which is pertinent to the matter being discussed; it's very scandalous; but I won't actually say anything about it, so you'll just have to take my word for it." See his comments on DeltaQuad's RfA and his comments on DeltaQuad's ArbCom candidacy. In other words, he's an attention-seeking asshole.

This post has been edited by Ego Trippin' (Part Two): Fri 13th January 2012, 7:21pm