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Tarc
post Mon 23rd January 2012, 4:42pm
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QUOTE(Selina @ Mon 23rd January 2012, 10:36am) *

Oh I wouldn't party about that too much because for every article that is deleted on Wikipedia is one to go over to a Wikia, it all works perfectly to line Jimmy's pockets instead of "the free society"... That is the thinking behind the ideas of notability and deletionism in a website with nearly unlimited storage space - to get as much possible on Wikia where ads can be ran on it...


Or http://wikialpha.org aka All Things Transformers.
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post Mon 23rd January 2012, 4:47pm
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 23rd January 2012, 3:12pm) *

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lol, that cracked me up. they've also blocked Dream Focus for using the phrase "evil deletionist," which my inclusionist ally drops in perhaps one of five edits he ever makes.
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post Mon 23rd January 2012, 4:51pm
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 23rd January 2012, 4:42pm) *

QUOTE(Selina @ Mon 23rd January 2012, 10:36am) *

Oh I wouldn't party about that too much because for every article that is deleted on Wikipedia is one to go over to a Wikia, it all works perfectly to line Jimmy's pockets instead of "the free society"... That is the thinking behind the ideas of notability and deletionism in a website with nearly unlimited storage space - to get as much possible on Wikia where ads can be ran on it...


Or http://wikialpha.org aka All Things Transformers.


Oh my god. There was a funny little comic I saw once that said something about the power of the internet and what humans ende up using it for... but I can't find it, I had it but something eated it so you can has this instead: youtu.be/2HrQbjPjbBA

I like the concept of that site though, it looks like something that needs to exist in the same way WR does, just looks like it's been set up people that don't really understand the concept of a public image hrmph.gif I like the concept though even if it looks like they are determined to undermine themselves, because yeah the only preventation against tyranny is open discussion - transparency:

youtube.com/watch?v=iY57ErBkFFE&list=SPBBA4EA8EABF39223
QUOTE(Commissioner Pravin Lal @ ~2100 (data corrupted), "U.N. Declaration of Rights")
As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth’s final century,

free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality,

but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism.

Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
QUOTE(President Barack Obama @ January 21, 2009, as he overturned Bush’s order restricting access to White House records)
This administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information but with those who seek it to be known.

The mere fact that you have the legal power to keep something secret does not mean you should always use it.

Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.

Funny thing is even though that video is from 1999 and seems spooky, it doesn't actually predict anything because it just talks about something that will always be true. smile.gif
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post Mon 23rd January 2012, 4:54pm
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 23rd January 2012, 11:42am) *

Or http://wikialpha.org aka All Things Transformers.


http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

That's an extremely sad sight.

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post Mon 23rd January 2012, 5:20pm
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QUOTE(President Barack Obama @ January 21, 2009, as he overturned Bush’s order restricting access to White House records)

Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.


Unfortunately, the rule of law now includes the NDAA, which says you may be detained indefinitely at the whim of the administration, no lawyer, no habeus corpus, nada.
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post Mon 23rd January 2012, 6:19pm
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QUOTE(Jaranda @ Fri 20th January 2012, 4:58am) *

I asked for a checkuser privately, it came up empty which was surprising as it's an obvious duck. I suspect a couple of candidates, tempted to do a speedy close on the debate as it's clearly in bad faith.



Well how fucking transparent!
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post Mon 23rd January 2012, 7:07pm
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QUOTE(milowent @ Mon 23rd January 2012, 11:47am) *
lol, that cracked me up. they've also blocked Dream Focus for using the phrase "evil deletionist," which my inclusionist ally drops in perhaps one of five edits he ever makes.


I think DF's wiki-martyrdom is inevitable at this point. Perhaps I could adapt "I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill Last Night" for him;

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as free as you and me.
said I "but Dream, you're 1 week blocked"
"I'm unblocked," said he
"I'm unblocked," said he

"The deletionists blocked you Dream,
they'll ban you next," said I
"Takes more than bans to kill a man"
Says Dream "I didn't die"
Says Dream "I didn't die"

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post Mon 23rd January 2012, 9:45pm
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QUOTE(Selina @ Mon 23rd January 2012, 10:36am) *

Oh I wouldn't party about that too much because for every article that is deleted on Wikipedia is one to go over to a Wikia, it all works perfectly to line Jimmy's pockets instead of "the free society"... That is the thinking behind the ideas of notability and deletionism in a website with nearly unlimited storage space - to get as much possible on Wikia where ads can be ran on it...


Good gravy, I've taken over Selina's mind!
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post Tue 24th January 2012, 12:54am
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The problem with having a WR WP article is that WR's enemies on WP use the article as a punching bag to annoy us, just like they do with BLP articles of WP's foes.

An article about WR wouldn't fit in the criteria of a traditional encyclopedia, anyway.
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post Tue 24th January 2012, 1:49am
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 24th January 2012, 12:54am) *

The problem with having a WR WP article is that WR's enemies on WP use the article as a punching bag to annoy us, just like they do with BLP articles of WP's foes.

An article about WR wouldn't fit in the criteria of a traditional encyclopedia, anyway.

I think we need a PR guy to edit it. evilgrin.gif
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post Fri 27th January 2012, 3:15pm
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Tue 24th January 2012, 1:49am) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 24th January 2012, 12:54am) *

The problem with having a WR WP article is that WR's enemies on WP use the article as a punching bag to annoy us, just like they do with BLP articles of WP's foes.

An article about WR wouldn't fit in the criteria of a traditional encyclopedia, anyway.

I think we need a PR guy to edit it. evilgrin.gif


Just send them to WP:CO-OP if you get one.
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post Fri 27th January 2012, 3:44pm
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Fri 27th January 2012, 9:15am) *

QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Tue 24th January 2012, 1:49am) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 24th January 2012, 12:54am) *

The problem with having a WR WP article is that WR's enemies on WP use the article as a punching bag to annoy us, just like they do with BLP articles of WP's foes.

An article about WR wouldn't fit in the criteria of a traditional encyclopedia, anyway.

I think we need a PR guy to edit it. evilgrin.gif


Just send them to WP:CO-OP if you get one.

. . . and when you go to Rome, do make sure to check in with The Holy Office. rolleyes.gif
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post Fri 27th January 2012, 5:46pm
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QUOTE(Cedric @ Fri 27th January 2012, 7:44am) *

. . . and when you go to Rome, do make sure to check in with The Holy Office. rolleyes.gif

Don't forget to BYOC (bring your own crucifix).
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post Fri 27th January 2012, 9:36pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 23rd January 2012, 9:45pm) *

QUOTE(Selina @ Mon 23rd January 2012, 10:36am) *

Oh I wouldn't party about that too much because for every article that is deleted on Wikipedia is one to go over to a Wikia, it all works perfectly to line Jimmy's pockets instead of "the free society"... That is the thinking behind the ideas of notability and deletionism in a website with nearly unlimited storage space - to get as much possible on Wikia where ads can be ran on it...


Good gravy, I've taken over Selina's mind!

lol I guess we do actually agree on some stuff ha. tongue.gif Do we really have to be hating each othe for god how many years now when Wikipedia is more important? -.-
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post Fri 27th January 2012, 10:59pm
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QUOTE(Selina @ Fri 27th January 2012, 4:36pm) *

lol I guess we do actually agree on some stuff ha. tongue.gif Do we really have to be hating each othe for god how many years now when Wikipedia is more important? -.-

I don't hate you, Selina. Rather, I seek to help you improve.
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post Fri 27th January 2012, 11:36pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 27th January 2012, 10:59pm) *

QUOTE(Selina @ Fri 27th January 2012, 4:36pm) *

lol I guess we do actually agree on some stuff ha. tongue.gif Do we really have to be hating each othe for god how many years now when Wikipedia is more important? -.-

I don't hate you, Selina. Rather, I seek to help you improve.


That sounds rather arrogant to think yourself sufficiently superior to be in a position to help her improve.
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