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> Deryck Chan loses a fan, player vs player
carbuncle
post Sun 22nd January 2012, 4:54am
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Who doesn't enjoy a Twitter fight? User:Deryck Chan is an admin on WP.
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deryckchan Deryck Chan
Derby men guilty over gay hate leaflets http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-16656679 //I don't agree with what they say, but we should defend their right to say it.
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Faenwp Fae
@deryckchan I see no difference between saying "all jews should burn" from "all gays should burn". Incitement to hatred is not a "right".
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deryckchan Deryck Chan
@Faenwp "Propose death penalty for homosexuals" is (misguided) advocacy; "We should go and burn homosexuals" is inciting hatred.
14 hours ago

Faenwp Fae
@deryckchan Proclaiming "Turn Or Burn" is incitement to hatred and demonstrated in court. Are you sure you want to support such filth?
14 hours ago

deryckchan Deryck Chan
@Faenwp Again I don't support what they say; I'm merely astonished by how far over the top our society's secularist intolerance has gone.
14 hours ago

Faenwp Fae
@deryckchan Incitement to hatred is not "secularist intolerance". You shouting offensive crap in public. You have certainly lost my respect.
14 hours ago

deryckchan Deryck Chan
@Faenwp Your response exhibits precisely that intolerance - using "equality" as an excuse to silence those with different moral views.
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@Faenwp Fae
@deryckchan I thought I just block you. Please fuck off with your homophobic supporting shit.
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@deryckchan Perhaps you should write to #Stonewall explaining everyone has the "right" to say that gay people should be burnt to death.
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@deryckchan To avoid bias, why not write to @JewishChron and defend the "right" to publish leaflets supporting the death penalty for Jews?
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Faenwp Fae
@deryckchan You support the "right" to publish statements that gay people should be burnt or stoned to death. How is that not disgusting?
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deryckchan Deryck Chan
@Faenwp en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_the…
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@Faenwp Fae
@deryckchan Your offensive homophobic and pro-incitement to hatred is too much. Quoting "First they came…" at me is stupid. Fuck off.
14 hours ago via web

deryckchan Deryck Chan
@Faenwp Since you've now resorted to swearing and personal attacks, I agree I should remove myself from this conversation.
14 hours ago

Faenwp Fae
@deryckchan Steer clear of me in future. Now I see you support incitement against queers, it is easy to see your comments in context.
13 hours ago
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post Sun 22nd January 2012, 3:29pm
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No, not a quid pro quo between individuals - but it is a social contract.

I will defend the right of racist scumbags to spout their racist crap, because in doing so I am protecting my own right to speak my beliefs, without the fear that I will be silenced by the others who find them objectionable.

In the UK, where there is no fist amendment, there is a great danger that equalities legislation could result in a new liberal censorship. I think the intelligent, true liberals now realise this - and realise that freedom is tested by our willingness to defend those whose views repel us.

Which is where the "first the came for..." mantra comes in. Only to update it, you'd need:

First they came for the burka-wearers...
Then they came for the BNP...
Then they came for the Conservative Fundamentalists ...
...

France banned the burka, and as much as the idea of women having to wear them repels me, if they try to ban them here, I will be wearing one!
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